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The first one KLOL was asking Wokistan and Firestorm for comments on the newer scans and only one of them remotely responded. Second one Pepsiman was still arguing but he got shut down despite the notable vote difference, which is hardly any different than this thread with a 3 vote difference...
@Mr. Bambu So why did the prior two threads close right on the dime for grace period when there was still a discussion happening? Again this seems very biased that a thread with people still arguing just gets shut down before they get any answer, let alone have the discussion come to a close but...
You’re the one claiming such a rule exists that rejected threads can still continue after grace period and the votes being in favor of it being rejected. I’m asking where is that ever stated, especially in comparisons to threads getting accepted?
@Deagonx no give me the link to the wiki rules that says this right now, where does it say that rejected threads can still continue even after a major vote difference?
@Ultima_Reality
I’m confused on what you mean by it being interpreted as the soul and body for the primordials and Gaia, especially when the novel talks about how Everything that’s related to the earth itself is Gaia, that plus the fact Gaia is aware of Kratos across time itself to where she’s...
@Deagonx so like how the last 2 threads were still ongoing yet you closed both of them before we reached a conclusion on both sides? Sounds more like you just want the thread to drag on longer than it needs to despite the vote difference.
@Antvasima Planck has agreed that he'd be willing to rework the conceptual arguments to have some more direct statements on the nature and at least provide evidence of such a thing happening, though it will take him some time since it's the end of the semester for most folks so I assume it will...
You do realize the examples that Bambu have brought up would by default make SCP as a whole be at risk of being banned from the website with your own standard right? Especially with how the tiering system is being used and versus battle words like nonexistent physiology, something rarely if ever...
@Deagonx You wanna quote the wiki rules that says the same can't be applied to rejected threads when there's a clear vote difference? I'd like to see that please.
@Mr. Bambu No the votes were near neck in neck with the bio stuff with both Pepsiman and KLOL still arguing and asking questions yet...
@Mr. Bambu DarkGrath has the right to reopen the thread to make a comment, plus her question is about understanding Deagon's definition of what a concept is, not the legitimacy of GoW having concept hax since she disagrees with the thread. Also last time I checked Deagon closed the two prior...
Yeah for a while, especially since over a dozens of tier 0 characters just showed up left and right for the verse I was kinda skeptical on if the writers are aware of the tiering system here since it's too much of a coincidence, though with these evidence yeah it's very clear that they know...
@AbaddonTheDisappointment @Elizhaa @Maverick_Zero_X @LordGriffin1000 @Emirp sumitpo @DemonGodMitchAubin any input here would be appreciated. Here’s Planck’s response to the OP which gives more insight to CM1 GoW.
The force that’s the beginning of what shapes reality like chaos, also nice apples and oranges comparison here.
I’m talking about the soul and nature stuff, explain why that’s not concept hax beyond just “it’s not concept hax” because just saying no is not an answer.
Not an argument, explain...
@Deagonx so them being similar forces of nature that’s responsible for the creation of their realities is apparently not evidence, riiiiiight…..
Explain why, you keep saying they’re not concepts and you don’t explain why, so why the hell should I take your point seriously?
Ah yes, none of the...
Ok? And how does this debunk him arguing they're still treated as one and the same?
Literally when has this been typical when at no point does souls in general function like this? Especially when it fundamentally changes a being from one to a completely different person? Especially when the...
Planck bringing up the point that the primordial forces are the same across realms means they're one and the same regardless of the pantheon we talk about. If you don't know why soul's form is argued to be conceptual when Garm's mere nature itself is being changed by Fenrir's form of the soul to...
@Deagonx You seem to be hell bent on bringing up Gaia as the only argument with being formless when other examples exist, plus the fact they have a more non-physical state as well as being a part of the beginning of everything with Ascension's intro and just the Spark of the world in general...
@Deagonx And it's not a challenging task to put 2 and 2 together on why they disagree in the first place when someone's made a refute prior to their votes.
Can you quote where Planck said that Gaia's the only argument for conceptual? Because Gaia's not the only being who's formless in their...
That doesn’t explain shit when someone making an entire refute and then others following up with “I disagree with the thread” is enough, the fact you need the opposition to go through this many hoops despite it being very clear as day on why they’d disagree is plain stupid.
You made a comment...
Why do they have to explain their disagreement when the opposition already summarized their points in the first place? By this logic none of the folks in the prior threads you're a part of remotely counts for votes when all they did is just say "I agree" and they don't elaborate on their points...
I literally said I disagree with the thread, I don't see how that's somehow not clear enough. You keep saying that none of these things remotely explain concepts and magic but I find it hard to take your point seriously when you haven't refuted every single point Planck has made and only...
Yeah gonna have to disagree with this thread, at best the explanations from the abilities themselves might need some rework but I’m not really convinced with the arguments here that this wouldn’t scale in any way.
Yeah they're not even trying to hide it at this point. the bats, the pipe and the hair stands out way too much unless this is the biggest yet latest april fools prank ever.
Planck isn't neutral, he said he doesn't mind trimming it or moving it to another page, so that's me, Planck and DDM who said that this should just be cleaned up and not removed.
Ironically enough, almost all of their complaints revolves around stuff they don't understand on how the site works, like how changes are just only done because someone felt like it and not that they had to push for a revision with an argument in mind.
@Ikelaggan that’s what happens when folks offsite are all bark and no bite. I’ve had my fair share of BlazBlue folks who thinks the way I scale things is stupid but they don’t even entertain the idea of just making a CRT to question the stats
The self power bestowal and negation sounds more like some power null resistance/regeneration feat to me. As for the mind negation and mind resistance negation, label the latter as just resistance negation and the former as Power null. Astral Projection Negation should be Non Physical...
@DarkDragonMedeus btw in regards to your comment on how there's normal ways to get around some immortalities, the section talks about some of your points like the whole "kill someone beyond their regen showing" as it would only be considered immortality negation if someone had Majin Buu levels...
It's mostly either trimming down the page/moving it to the immortality section to make the power null page more concise, or just outright deleting it. I'm in favor of the former due to many verses having Immortality negation in the first place, and having some form of explanation on the ability...