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  1. Vegan_Gains

    Xenoverse 2 DLC Pack 6 Revision [ Key, Tier, Possible Abilities ]

    Geez, Xenoverse is ridiculous.
  2. Vegan_Gains

    Ranking the most powerful characters in Dragon Ball.

    False, Jiren was not stated to be "much" stronger than Belmod in the anime/manga, in the anime its implied that he's stronger than Belmod, and outright stated in the manga, in neither scenario the word "much" used. FP Jiren is stronger than Belmod, and him surpassing his limits makes him even...
  3. Vegan_Gains

    Android 17 vs Hit

    These feats just seem like outliers, how is base Frieza trolling someone SSG Goku couldn't handle,and struggled with as a SSB. When did Freeza get that powerful ?
  4. Vegan_Gains

    Ranking the most powerful characters in Dragon Ball.

    Has it been stated Jiren can one shot Belmod ? When they mean stronger, don't automatically assume they mean he 10's to 100's of times stronger than he is.
  5. Vegan_Gains

    Ranking the most powerful characters in Dragon Ball.

    HM's include:17, Frieza, Dyspo, Gohan
  6. Vegan_Gains

    Ranking the most powerful characters in Dragon Ball.

    My list would be 1.Zeno 2.Daishinkan (and the other 4 top strongest fighters too) 3.Super Shenron 4.The Angels 5.Beerus/Quitela 6.Goku 7.Jiren 8.Other G.O.D. 9.Vegeta 10.Toppo
  7. Vegan_Gains

    Ranking the most powerful characters in Dragon Ball.

    Beerus is definitely implied to be on the upper echelon of a Destroyer's power, but not stronger than all of them combined, that's nonsense.
  8. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 65: Because we still got the manga, the movie and the dub to discuss!

    1. Beerus one shot CSSB Vegeta, that isn't effort 2. Hit isn't CSSB level, he got whooped by Goku in the manga with SSG.
  9. Vegan_Gains

    Ranking the most powerful characters in Dragon Ball.

    Wasn't it stated that MUI Goku MIGHT be stronger than Beerus ? Based off that, I'd say Beerus>Jiren.
  10. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    I don't think that's for every scenario.
  11. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    "Take note that 4-D power should logically always be superior to countably infinite 3-D power". This not only makes them infinitetly stronger than 3D High 3-A's but also 2 dimensions apart from regular 3-A, this would mean they're 2 dimensions stronger than Hit if I'm not mistaken, which just...
  12. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    Jeez, this dimensional jargon.
  13. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    theres a 4-D version of High 3-A ?
  14. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    If not mentioned already, High 3-A is infinetly inferior to Low 2-C, ie a whole dimension apart.
  15. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    It's a little thing called Plot Armor my friend, the exact reason why Jiren didn't just blast everyone off the stage in the first second of the Tournament, it doesn't make it as interesting to watch.
  16. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    Not to mention the episode explicitly stated several times Toppo was holding back significantly as to not kill his opponents.
  17. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    Jiren is a being who surpasses the God's of Destruction and even an improved Ultra Instinct Goku couldn't defeat him, Goku had to master Ultra Instinct in order to defeat Jiren. It's implied Toppo had just acquired the fruits of his training. You could also chalk it up to bad writing. But, I...
  18. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    @Aeyu Why would 17 hold back when it was down to the final minutes of the Tournament that decides the FATE OF HIS UNIVERSE, does that ANY sense to you at all, this has got to be a joke.
  19. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    That's also true, 17 couldn't even outpower base Toppo, yet this makes him qualified for an upgrade, that's complete garbage, this should be closed.
  20. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    No, I remember vividly frm previous threads, and the episode itself, Hit nearly eliminated Jiren, and Jiren was only concerned about Goku and Hit. People were vieing for High-3A Hit as you are now for Frieza and 17, if the outcome for the former is anything to go by, this doesn't change anything.
  21. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    @Aeyu Yes,thats Dragonball powerups in a nutshell, but never to such a ludicrous degree, much less, and I hate to repeat myself, A 100X STRONGER in 10 minutes. It's just too far fetched to agree with, and why not provide the same for Hit, didn't he nearly eliminate Jiren, and was one of the 2...
  22. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    @Aeyu, uhhh no, The timespan between the Universe 6 arc and Future Trunks arc was a year and a half later I think. Vegeta would have to get 50-100x stronger in 48 minutes, actually only in like 10 minutes, which is completely ridiculous.
  23. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    No, he practically used his ki as a defibrillator
  24. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    I doubt Vegeta got 50-100x stronger in that short time span, let alone SSG's multiplier.
  25. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    I think we all know Super is wonky in the way they present how powerful their characters are, so it's difficult pinpointing how powerful these characters can be sometimes. Jiren wasn't even flinching when he was attacked by SSJ/2 Goku and only used a finger to defend himself against SSG Goku...
  26. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    A base Goku and Frieza defeated Jiren, I don't think he was low-2c during that bout.
  27. Vegan_Gains

    Cal's Dragon Ball Super XXXXXX: 60 is here and 2 mins are left

    All the Gods standing up when Goku mastered UI was great.
  28. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super Thread 58: Shirts are going off and Frieza is a huge fodder now

    Money>Originality is Toei's ******* company motto.
  29. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super Thread 58: Shirts are going off and Frieza is a huge fodder now

    What exactly are we salty about ? That we're tired of different colored hair forms, and want some originality ?
  30. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super Thread 58: Shirts are going off and Frieza is a huge fodder now

    The black hair made it look ominous and mixed with the silver eyes made it look badass, but alas, they've reduced UI to another hair color form.
  31. Vegan_Gains

    Jiren vs Beerus

    The answer will most likely be revealed during his fight with UI Goku in 2 weeks, then we can make a direct statement about who's > than who.
  32. Vegan_Gains

    Jiren vs Beerus

    I interpret him surpassing the God of Destruction state as just Belmod, until further evidence is provided to prove otherwise. Also "state" is pretty vague, the difference in power between the G.O.D. seem to vary. Although, this is more from a manga perspective than the anime, but I don't think...
  33. Vegan_Gains

    Jiren vs Beerus

    People seem to forget the "A" G.O.D. part of that, it implies Belmod cannot defeat Jiren, which doesn't include the other G.O.D, and we dont know where Vegeta and Goku stack to Beerus, he doesn't seem to mesmerized by their power as he was with Jiren. Toppo got absolutely fodderized, which was...
  34. Vegan_Gains

    Jiren vs Beerus

    I think it's safe to say Beerus is still stronger, he didn't seem shook by Jiren unleashing his full power, and didn't even make a mention of how his power compares to his own.
  35. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super Thread 58: Shirts are going off and Frieza is a huge fodder now

    His backstory was meh at best, hopefully Toyotaro can add more depth to his character.
  36. Vegan_Gains

    Kefla vs Fusion Zamasu

    Wait, Kefla is low 2-c ?
  37. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 49

    I forgot to note, that whole fight was just 1 minute, since in the episode's beginning, Whis says there's 23 minutes left, and the episode ends with there being 22 minutes remaining.
  38. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 49

    Also, tournament rules hold no meaning anymore, except for the participation of eliminated contestants.
  39. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 49

    If Goku handles them with just 3, does that mean U7 potara>U6 potara ?
  40. Vegan_Gains

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 48

    He also said that Jiren is the leader of the Pride Troopers, he obviously knows what he's talking about.
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