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  1. Overlord4896

    who or what is the supreme being of the World of Darkness cosmology?

    so the I AM THAT I AM is the supreme being and the void is an aspect of this 'wyrm' thing? and when you say 'theres god above him as well' do you mean gods above the Wyrm or the I AM THAT I AM?
  2. Overlord4896

    question about the outer gods and the 'archtypes'

    oke thnx ladz. someone can close this thread please
  3. Overlord4896

    who or what is the supreme being of the World of Darkness cosmology?

    just as the title says folks, i have been confused as to what is the supreme being of WoD. is it the I AM THE I AM or is it bondeye? also apparently any being can become the supreme being of a cosmology similar to WoD by transcending to the void? i am very confused to say the least.
  4. Overlord4896

    question about the outer gods and the 'archtypes'

    from what i can read they seem to be separate things. with the ultimate gods for example being a fragment of thier archetype?
  5. Overlord4896

    question about the outer gods and the 'archtypes'

    So I was browsing through the profiles of Cthulhu mythos entities and I noticed in the description of the ultimate gods that they are (the ultimate gods) a mere facet of those 'archetypes' that are tier 0 but I cant see a profile about these so-called 'archetypes'. are the outer gods and the...
  6. Overlord4896

    Strongest tier 0 currently

    nothing......is weird. still cant completetly wrap my head around the concept of nothing. though i atleast do know that nothing is both above and below everything in some crazy meta-transendental way with nothing not equaling non-existence but something entierly else, something beyond. its a...
  7. Overlord4896

    Strongest tier 0 currently

    that reminds me of the box from verses&dimensions wiki. its a good read (a long one thou to get ur head around).
  8. Overlord4896

    SCP 3812 is the most powerful character in all of fiction,change my mind.

    pretty sure all the outer gods are getting high 1-A rating (possibly even tier-0). azzy and yog are staying tier 0, also the azathoth dream thing was not disapproven, only a different interpretation was made. i am pretty sure by the end of that thread most of everyone agreed that azathoth was...
  9. Overlord4896

    Shub-Niggurath and Yog-Sothoth vs Masadaverse

    No not 'simple'. I am pretty positive the OGs completely shit on the shinza dudes.
  10. Overlord4896

    Cthulhu Mythos: Time to Debunk one of the Greatest Myths in Versus Debating

    They never did play music to him.
  11. Overlord4896

    Shub-Niggurath and Yog-Sothoth vs Masadaverse

    have you been following the mythos CRT? the outer gods were always going to be upgraded to high-1A and either azzy or yog would've stayed tier 0, maybe even both.
  12. Overlord4896

    Cthulhu Mythos: Time to Debunk one of the Greatest Myths in Versus Debating

    the original is relativily quite vague, i would say both interpertations are valid.
  13. Overlord4896

    Cthulhu Mythos: Time to Debunk one of the Greatest Myths in Versus Debating

    "clearly"? i would say its more of an interpertation.
  14. Overlord4896

    Tier 0 Mathiverse

    yes
  15. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    i still dont totally get it, sorry. its getting late so ill disucss more tommorow.
  16. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    point 1 says that you need a character that transends another character to the point where thier entire higharchy is meaningless, this is achieved by simply going through 1 gate, the first gate lets say. point 2 says that the first proccess must be repeated multiple times which it does in the...
  17. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    going of by your defenition then the infinite gates thing completely qualifies for operation 2 and 3. though i am finding comparing the two verses by pure maths to be extermemly difficult as lovecraft used mostly literature where i presume the other one uses actual math concepts. the author of...
  18. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    For point 1 this is shown in an infinite manner with the gates where a being beyond the first gate is so transended of the beings before the first gate that thier infinite outerversal higharchies mean nothing. Point 2 applies for any creature beyond 'n' gate to the creatures below the 'n' gate...
  19. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    I am not sure about that concerning cthulhu mythos wise. But for that argument to go anywhere, someone like azzy or similar who are more informed than me in the verse has to comment.
  20. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    Doesn't the text itself include mathematical concepts. Isn't that the whole point of that text?
  21. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    I saw the other thread. Didn't Ultima say it's High 1-A?
  22. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    Outer gods, I am almost positive. Completely transend such higharchies with such things being irrelevant to them iirc. Check with azzy and the others.
  23. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    Sound a good. I'll pm you my discord.
  24. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    If yog doesn't want anything to interact with him. '''Nothing''' will interact with him. Many beings have this cause of type 5 acasuality I think too.
  25. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    I don't know much how about the mathiverse to come to a proper informed judgment to be honest. However, I can say that the mythos has a high number of cardinals (perhaps infinite) in the form of the gates and the very nature of the outer gods places them above these higharchies.
  26. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    Not necessarily. You can be both all encompassing but completely unattached from there system. In fact I would argue that for you to be a higher tier of tier 0 then you would need to be all-encompassing. These beings possess type 4 transduality anyway.
  27. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    I fail to see how mathi is anywhere near yog from the descriptions I have seen. Azzy will probably explain it best rather than me.
  28. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    Yog is far beyond mathiverse for many reasons. However, aren't both of them completely separate of their systems already? They completely encompass thier systems and everything is a mere facet of them but they are still completely seprate of it.
  29. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    damn, your right.......... will shit.
  30. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    location profile?
  31. Overlord4896

    Tier 0 Mathiverse

    fair points.
  32. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    not so sure about that, we havent really come up with a consensus upon the matter. even azzy was like it is most likely that Azathoth is in top considering the greater cosmology. Azathoth being downgraded to High-1A is a big stretch imo.
  33. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    i agree. i wish him the best of luck.
  34. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    you do present a fair point regarding about the tier of the outer gods. however i am pretty sure that azzy is most likely staying tier 0. anyway i used that statment about yog to show that these justifications already exist for these beings in the mythos from the outer gods up, the...
  35. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    not neccsarily, the azzy thing is still being decided on and even then it is just literally a switch of positions where yog will be tier-0. the statement i provided does kinda fly in this wiki as it is literally one of the justifications used for yog's tier and is the quote on his profile...
  36. Overlord4896

    Cthulhu Mythos: Time to Debunk one of the Greatest Myths in Versus Debating

    i am fine with umr'at tawil bit but i do not agree with having yog and the supreme archetype being different profiles. when randolph carter met a manifestation of the supreme archtype he refered to it as how earth's cultists refer to it which is yog-sothoth as wrong and fractional as that view...
  37. Overlord4896

    Cthulhu Mythos: Time to Debunk one of the Greatest Myths in Versus Debating

    wow we posted at exactly the same moment. anyway, i think we should keep it as it is but perhaps we could try something new where we show both interpretations on both of yog's and azzy's profiles as imo they are equally valid due to the vagness we have to deal with.
  38. Overlord4896

    Cthulhu Mythos: Time to Debunk one of the Greatest Myths in Versus Debating

    as far as i can tell from reading this thread is that both sides of the argument have quite valid interpertations of how the mythos works and and where its characters stand in the higharchy due to how vague everything is that describes the stuff we are disscusing. although i am leaning towards...
  39. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    i saw the argument for his tier and i am not entierly convinced tbh, it just doesnt hold up to the standards of the wiki, the justfications for it i mean. as for your first point, it has shown in the cthulhu mythos that it does contain such cardinals of differnces in the form of the gates and...
  40. Overlord4896

    Blind and idiot tier 0 vs Smartest tier 0

    i am not that impressed going off from that descritpion, the outer gods are beyond quite literally all concepts and anything that could bind them, which include maths which they are compeltely transended off. then you have yog and azzy who are all of reality and beyond with the both of them...
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