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I was just pointing out absurdity that comes with Hit discussion. Time stop denying is always first on the list.
But in terms of this thread, arguing by pointing out something, highlighting the inconsistencies, then looping back to where it started goes no where.
I already think the correct...
I'm gonna be completely honest, never have I seen this much discussion over a character who straight up does something and says he does something.
Hit stops time against the mob boss and then says "Time has stopped". That should really be the end of that. Statement and feat. Done.
At this...
DBH cosmology as a whole is given surface level analysis. Just volume scaling Universe 7 with infinite timelines.
Both Trunks and Goku get absolute barebones in terms of their abilities when there is a shitton considering Xeno/Heroes is a game first and foremost.
Most of their DBH stuff is...
Please god no.
I really don't want Deathbattle to touch Heroes after two bad analysis. Plus I think Archie Sonic vs Wally should get a rematch.
Just leave Xeno Goku alone.
Goku might be the only Dad in fiction who gave his life twice to save his son and gets called a bad Dad. Selflessness to protect your son is the hallmark to being a good Dad.
Any, and I mean ANY other Dad does that in fiction? Dad of the century. The glazing would be next level.
DBZA brainrot...
I fully expect Dragonball Daima to completely retcon and change the cosmology since Toriyammer is writing it.
So expect a massive shitstorm when he claims the universe is the size of a solar system or something lol
Yeaaaaaah Modern Toriyammer isnt the best when it comes to characters. The same guy who forgets entire concepts and characters in his own series.
Hell, he forgot Dragonball Super was called Dragonball Super.
Not the most reliable source of info.
Lmao agree despite agreeing with the verdict.
GvS3, Trunks vs Silver, Dragonball Heroes doesn't get nearly as much in depth analysis. It's all just surface level stuff. Barebones twice.
Annoyance that Dragonball Heroes was barely touched outside of a few statements and black boxes.
Which to be fair, is correct. Felt barebones like Trunk's analysis in Trunks vs Silver.
Did Ultraguy write the episode?
If you buy one Herald being Outerversal, then all of them are outerversal.
So basically DC Earth from fodder to top tiers can all clap Lucifer Morningstar. Beast Boy >= Spectre.
Face value comic scaling with no nuance or understanding about power hierachy should be banned tbh
The worse part is it really did make Bill Cipher wankers insufferable.
Like, I love Bill Cipher. One of Disney's best villains. His design, mannerism, motives, all great. Gravity Falls is such a great series and Bill is just a perfect villain for the series.
But my oh my did that DB win...
I wouldn't lol.
I'm so sick of scaling Heralds to destroying their whole cosmology. Like every member of the Justice League is secretly above Cosmic Armor Superman. When like every single run has them well below the cosmics of their verse.
Bring on the Goku win for the sanity of vs debating...
Just for reference Superman is never written from a powerscalers perspective.
Powerscalers will have Superman have omniversal power, infinite speed, infinite durability, can do anything etc. Snap his fingers and the entire DC multiverse explodes.
Writers will be like "wut" and have him fight...
According to this blog, Cosmic Armor Superman and Base Superman are interchangeable in terms of power.
I'm so sick of Omniversal heralds that put the Justice League individually on the level of Lucifer.
Base Heralds scaling to the entire cosmology is ******* dumb and will always be dumb.
They are not the Prescence or Lucifer Morningstar. Not even close.
Outerversal heralds is a brainrot that should be extinguished.
In fact, Toriyama is at the helm so I fully expect Daima to turn Dragonball Cosmology on its head. Either with a downgrade or upgrade.
So be prepared for next fall. Shit is going to get wild.
Well said.
The reason why Marvel wins against DC heralds is because they have comparable cosmology. If you have a lesser cosmology it's essentially an auto-loss.
For Deathbattle, all Dc/Marvel heralds are capable of destroying their entire cosmology.
Ask yourself, can X character match TOAA...