Asura's Wrath Buff!

[Cyberblader90]

So did a little digging and I discovered Asura's Wrath has an artbook that has not been discussed much if not all on site. One thing this artbook does is provide a further distance for how Chakravartin was from Asura in the final episode. This affects both beams for Asura and the giant moon Chakravartin creates. The blog below has been accepted.

Asura's Wrath Episode 22 Buffs

vsbattles.fandom.com

Beam 1 Re-calc: 58.8 quadrillion times FTL

Beam 2 Re-calc: 31.111 quintillion times FTL

Moon Chuck Re-calc: 1.581486e+80 kg (Universal LS) and 4.5277344e+47 Foe (3-B, Multi-Galaxy level)

Only affects Chakravartin and Asura's last key.

 

[WanderingGecko]

Seems good.

 

[Dalesean027]

Sure this should work

 

[SamanPatou]

I disagree, because the Event Horizon is clearly a separate dimension not located in conventional space.
It being "the edge of the universe" should be taken as a figure of speech, considering it is the very last place where Chakravartin resides, and can be reached only through his powers.

 

[Dalesean027]

Ah then if its meant to be a figurative edge of the universe then nevermind on that approval, I'll wait to see what OP reponds with

 

[SamanPatou]

If I'm reading it right, "edge of the universe" refers to the Event Horizon, the blue lake where Asura and Chakravartin have their final battle, not the spot in space where the Golden Statue is located.
The Event Horizon then is, by all means, a separate realm.

 

[Cyberblader90]

I'm unsure if it is in reference to Event Horizon itself or if it means reaching the idol is the edge.
these are two prior pages in the artbook before this page, depicting Chakravartin emerging from a galaxy:

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/1155557122340294696/1335455857697361920/tumblr_4ea066e3f3dde02fa0127a51b9049bfc_6cd33b28_2048.jpg?ex=6822c030&is=68216eb0&hm=d59543b0120439aab6c29fae79493012c54fae476763ac1f1ed62444c8dc2850& https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/1155557122340294696/1335458392684101734/tumblr_79e5f7cbd4c6d6e42475d13e3715648b_3bb456d7_2048.jpg?ex=6822c28c&is=6821710c&hm=6149148d96b7e1a08c4397da82dd536a13ad789c7009c7f4834d49578a7f182d&

 

[TokiNoOuja]

The event horizon located inside Chakravartin Golden form which as the scan says it located on the edge of Universe

Dont forget Mithra (who's Abducted inside the Dimension) physically flew back to earth from Golden Chakravartin form

 

[Cyberblader90]

If I'm reading it right, "edge of the universe" refers to the Event Horizon, the blue lake where Asura and Chakravartin have their final battle, not the spot in space where the Golden Statue is located.
The Event Horizon then is, by all means, a separate realm.

Asura's Wrath Buff!

So did a little digging and I discovered Asura's Wrath has an artbook that has not been discussed much if not all on site. One thing this artbook does is provide a further distance for how Chakravartin was from Asura in the final episode. This affects both beams for Asura and the giant moon...

vsbattles.com

apparently, it means end of the universe, in which case, are we sure it means event horizon?

 

[KLOL506]

@Planck69 @DarkDragonMedeus @Elizhaa @Qawsedf234 @LephyrTheRevanchist @Maverick_Zero_X @Just_a_Random_Butler @Theglassman12 @UchihaSlayer96 @AbaddonTheDisappointment @Emirp sumitpo @LordTracer @KingTempest Your input here would be appreciated.

 

[KLOL506]

I'm unsure if it is in reference to Event Horizon itself or if it means reaching the idol is the edge.
these are two prior pages in the artbook before this page, depicting Chakravartin emerging from a galaxy:

BTW, you cannot use Discord links, use Imgur links.

 

[KingTempest]

I'm at an impasse. If it's at the end of the universe, the calc should work

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I'm at an impasse. If it's at the end of the universe, the calc should work

Pretty much

 

[Elizhaa]

It seems fine.

 

[Theglassman12]

Looks ok I guess.

 

[SamanPatou]

Asura's Wrath Buff!

So did a little digging and I discovered Asura's Wrath has an artbook that has not been discussed much if not all on site. One thing this artbook does is provide a further distance for how Chakravartin was from Asura in the final episode. This affects both beams for Asura and the giant moon...

vsbattles.com

apparently, it means end of the universe, in which case, are we sure it means event horizon?

Yes, but doesn't it refer to the Event Horizon as the end of the universe, and not the Statue's location?

Because in that case the statement cannot be taken literally, the Event Horizon is clearly a different dimension.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Your input here would be appreciated.

Didn't we have a thread regarding large object GBE calcs? The moon's size for example would result in it instant collapsing into a black hole which was why the previous Asura Wraith stuff had to be changed.

 

[KLOL506]

Didn't we have a thread regarding large object GBE calcs? The moon's size for example would result in it instant collapsing into a black hole which was why the previous Asura Wraith stuff had to be changed.

We did, and the response to that was basically, "try to calc it like a black hole as an approximation", as was suggested by @SeijiSetto here, which is how we now have 3-B moon instead of just 4-A.

This here just uses new distance parameters to get new size values, the actual formula remains the same.

Only point of contention then would be to determine whether the scan refers to the edge of the universe being the actual edge or this "event horizon" location that Saman is claiming. Which to me doesn't seem to be it based on what Cyber said.

 

[Infinite9Luck]

I agree, to give further support 果て can even be interpreted as "the farthest point of the universe, the end of the universe", in a spatial sense.

To support this interpretation being literal, it also say 越え, (or 越える the not continuative form), which refer "to go beyond, exceed", even galactic distances, not in a figurative sense.

 

[SamanPatou]

I believe you, but the point is that no matter how literal the statement is, if it refers to the Event Horizon, the place where Asura faces Chakravartin for the last time, then it cannot be considered part of the main universe.
It's a seemingly endless shallow body of water with a pavement and a sky featuring clouds, located within the golden statue and possibly even connected to Naraka, the afterlife.

I'd be completely fine with this "end of the universe" thing if it referred to the actual cosmic location of the statue, but the Event Horizon is blatatantly another realm altogether.

 

[Infinite9Luck]

I believe you, but the point is that no matter how literal the statement is, if it refers to the Event Horizon, the place where Asura faces Chakravartin for the last time, then it cannot be considered part of the main universe.
It's a seemingly endless shallow body of water with a pavement and a sky featuring clouds, located within the golden statue and possibly even connected to Naraka, the afterlife.

I'd be completely fine with this "end of the universe" thing if it referred to the actual cosmic location of the statue, but the Event Horizon is blatatantly another realm altogether.

By looking at the OP he is arguing for the location of the statue I think. Which is what the Databook describe after all.

After Asura reached the end of the universe, after a battle that exceed galactic size, to reach the Golden Chakravartin, then he is transported to the Event Horizon.

So I think you and the OP both agrees!

 

[SamanPatou]

The OP may argue for the location of the statue, but the source link shows the final battlefield, the Event Horizon, which may be interpreted as "the edge of the universe" in any way one wants, but it is undoubtedly another dimension.

 

[Infinite9Luck]

The OP may argue for the location of the statue, but the source link shows the final battlefield, the Event Horizon, which may be interpreted as "the edge of the universe" in any way one wants, but it is undoubtedly another dimension.

I can agree with your interpretation, yes.

 

[KLOL506]

Bump

 

[KLOL506]

Bump

 

[KLOL506]

Bump

If I may, my only issue with the calc is particularly the ang-sizing. I remember Kepekley saying ang-sizing becomes notoriously unreliable when you are dealing with distances spanning several billions of light-years across due to parallax errors, which is why the Greeks got the size of the universe horrendously wrong.

 

[SamanPatou]

The problem still lies in the misunderstanding of the scan.
The "edge of the universe" referred in the scan is the Event Horizon, which is an alternate/pocket/whatever dimension, not the standard universe, nor the location where the Golden Buddha is located.

 

[KLOL506]

@Cyberblader90

 

[TokiNoOuja]

The problem still lies in the misunderstanding of the scan.
The "edge of the universe" referred in the scan is the Event Horizon, which is an alternate/pocket/whatever dimension, not the standard universe, nor the location where the Golden Buddha is located.

But its located literally inside the Chakravartin Golden statue and we saw that Mithra physically flying from the Statue and saw galaxies goes frenzy until the explosion happened

 

[KLOL506]

Regardless of what the distance between Chakra and Earth is, the ang-sizing problems still follow.

 

[KLOL506]

Seems good.

The ang-sizing issue has not been addressed. That literally makes it problematic to use this calc.