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You can't just say this and then not elaborate.
I do think that Aang and Korra's abilities should be separated into more tabs. Them being grouped together rn is probably confusing for anyone who hasn't seen the series.
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I do think that Aang and Korra's abilities should be separated into more tabs. Them being grouped together rn is probably confusing for anyone who hasn't seen the series.
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From the library edition. I thought "carrying the weight of the world" was just hyperbole in the regular edition, but now I'm not so sure.
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Is this quantifiable?From the library edition. I thought "carrying the weight of the world" was just hyperbole in the regular edition, but now I'm not so sure.
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"Carrying the weight of our world" Katara is clearly mentioning the fact that toph pretty much has their lives in her hands.From the library edition. I thought "carrying the weight of the world" was just hyperbole in the regular edition, but now I'm not so sure.
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If it's accepted, it would buff Toph's lifting strength from class M to class G.
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Toph > Secret Wars Hulk? I’m down for this 
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Man; I want to make a crt to make the case that the spirit lasers consist of light, but I don't want to deal with the pushback.
That was what I thought too when the scan was brought up here, but that was before I saw the commentary from the author.
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This is regarding the Avatar: Realms Collide game. If it turns out to be canon, then the setting possibly has a multiverse...
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Who is this guy? And where was it confirmed that it is an alternative universe?This is regarding the Avatar: Realms Collide game. If it turns out to be canon, then the setting possibly has a multiverse...
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They're one of the mods in the game's official server; they've reportedly talked to the game staff.
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If anyone's good with calcs, I submitted this a few days ago. That should be Raava's energy, so it would buff up the speed of the verse.
There's a similar moment in the comics which offers more angles.
There's a similar moment in the comics which offers more angles.
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Going back to this, one of the mods on the Discord has clarified that the game is not canon. Lame.
Also, the Aang movie has been delayed to January 2026. Just a few months pushback, but it still makes me worried about all the internal nonsense that's going on at Paramount. Especially cause there's rumors that they want the studio to be bought.
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By Sony I'm guessing?
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That's what I heard.
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Actually getting nervous about a Sony acquisition at this point. There's a very real threat of potential projects being wiped. Not only would that absolutely suck, but it would also mean that the last few years of shorter comics and slow releases to get ready for Avatar Studios would have been for nothing.
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It's still happening?Actually getting nervous about a Sony acquisition at this point. There's a very real threat of potential projects being wiped. Not only would that absolutely suck, but it would also mean that the last few years of shorter comics and slow releases to get ready for Avatar Studios would have been for nothing.
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We don't know. Before, it was a rumor, but now it's official that Sony has made a bid.
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I know this is months old, but did you ever end up reading it?
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Between this and the first Yangchen book, I did get a little tired of the author's habit of making it look like the protagonists were screwed, only to give a flashback to show that they planned out the scenario.
Also, there were some good reaction feats from Yangchen, what with her nullifying the combustionbenders's shots right as they were set off.
Also, there were some good reaction feats from Yangchen, what with her nullifying the combustionbenders's shots right as they were set off.
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I made a rough draft of a crt that could upgrade the speed of the spirit beams. Since this would be pretty controversial, I wanted to post it here first. Some feedback would be appreciated.
The point of this crt is to prove that all of the sp beams being thrown around in Avatar are primarily composed of light, particularly the purple ones fired by Vaatu and the Colossus.
The beam refracts in a new material
The beam refracts when it passes through Cosmic Korra's body
The beam diffuses in a reasonably realistic way or reflects off a material that it can be expected to, such as a non-magical mirror
Yep. The light is diffusing so that the area near Korra and Unavaatu are lit up by their respective colors
It is stated to be composed/consisting of photons or light itself, again by a reliable source
I should note that the context of him saying this is during the middle of a hypothetical movie that he is making, based on events that have happened in the show so far. However, it should also be noted that Varrick himself is the person who invented the spirit beam that the Earth Empire later adopted. He witnessed the fight between Unavaatu and giant Korra from his jail cell.
Given that he is an inventor and a genius, he should know what a laser is, especially since had created a movie that featured a laser in it.
And the writers confirmed that the Unavaatu’s ray was what inspired him
It has its origin at a realistic source of light, such as a camera
The mecha’s beam comes from spirit vines, which are obviously not a realistic source of light. However, when Vaarick is harnessing the energy from the vines for the first time (right before the first beam is accidentally fired) he says this:
So electromagnetism was involved during the firing of the beam. This isn’t the first time that electromagnetism is mentioned in the Avatarverse, as Jinora brings it up earlier. She also brings up the light spectrum.
Speaking of spirit vine energy and Vaatu’s ray, the ttrpg confirms that the energy in the vines and the energy that makes up the spirit portals is the same type of energy. This is self-evident, since Korra bending spirit energy made a portal, but it’s good to have confirmation.
This is relevant because when one of the portals opens, it produces an aurora.
The creators have said that the portals are spitting out pure energy whose origin is celestial in nature.
This is a good quote because it essentially confirms that nature in the avatar world can be observed through a scientific approach, as science, astronomy, etc all exist, but it also can be observed through a supernatural approach. Bending skills are using the real elements: when lightningbending is being used, it’s real lightning. The same thing goes for the spirits: when the moon spirit is fatally wounded, the moon actually disappears, and when the ocean spirit rises up, the creator’s commentary calls it the ocean. Therefore, this same approach should be applied to Raava and Vaatu, as while the concept they embody definitely has an effect on nature, and thus they can be seen as incarnations of good and evil, they should also be producing photons and such with their bodies. Other spirits can also turn into light.
The beams consistently travel in a straight line
Proof. There is exactly one time where the beam is not straight, and that’s when Varrick accidentally fires it from the train. He did say that reverse magnetic polarity was involved, which sounds like the Faraday effect. After Varrick flees from Kuvira’s army, Baatar Jr copies Varrick’s work and perfects the beam.
Who would this scale to?
If applied, the Colossus, Vaatu, Unavaatu, Raava, and Cosmic Korra would all get “speed of light” with their beams. Anyone who dodges the beams without aim-dodging would also scale.
The beam refracts in a new material
The beam refracts when it passes through Cosmic Korra's body
The beam diffuses in a reasonably realistic way or reflects off a material that it can be expected to, such as a non-magical mirror
Yep. The light is diffusing so that the area near Korra and Unavaatu are lit up by their respective colors
It is stated to be composed/consisting of photons or light itself, again by a reliable source
- Bryke calls spirit energy a light source.
- The spirit portals, when opened, appear as beams of light (I’ll explain why the portals are relevant in a bit).
- When Aang is freed from the iceberg, the avatar state shoots a light into the sky which Zuko, the creators, and one of the show’s writers call light (it also creates an aurora.) The avatar state is the avatar drawing from Raava’s power (aka, the spirit of light and peace), which in turn comes from cosmic energy. Raava at full power should be capable of firing a beam like Vaatu, since Raava is Vaatu’s equal and opposite. Though the game is not canonical, Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl shows this on the Legend of Korra stage, indicating that the developers of that game think the same way.
- At one point Varrick calls the beam a laser.
I should note that the context of him saying this is during the middle of a hypothetical movie that he is making, based on events that have happened in the show so far. However, it should also be noted that Varrick himself is the person who invented the spirit beam that the Earth Empire later adopted. He witnessed the fight between Unavaatu and giant Korra from his jail cell.
Given that he is an inventor and a genius, he should know what a laser is, especially since had created a movie that featured a laser in it.
And the writers confirmed that the Unavaatu’s ray was what inspired him
It has its origin at a realistic source of light, such as a camera
The mecha’s beam comes from spirit vines, which are obviously not a realistic source of light. However, when Vaarick is harnessing the energy from the vines for the first time (right before the first beam is accidentally fired) he says this:
So electromagnetism was involved during the firing of the beam. This isn’t the first time that electromagnetism is mentioned in the Avatarverse, as Jinora brings it up earlier. She also brings up the light spectrum.
Speaking of spirit vine energy and Vaatu’s ray, the ttrpg confirms that the energy in the vines and the energy that makes up the spirit portals is the same type of energy. This is self-evident, since Korra bending spirit energy made a portal, but it’s good to have confirmation.
This is relevant because when one of the portals opens, it produces an aurora.
The creators have said that the portals are spitting out pure energy whose origin is celestial in nature.
This is a good quote because it essentially confirms that nature in the avatar world can be observed through a scientific approach, as science, astronomy, etc all exist, but it also can be observed through a supernatural approach. Bending skills are using the real elements: when lightningbending is being used, it’s real lightning. The same thing goes for the spirits: when the moon spirit is fatally wounded, the moon actually disappears, and when the ocean spirit rises up, the creator’s commentary calls it the ocean. Therefore, this same approach should be applied to Raava and Vaatu, as while the concept they embody definitely has an effect on nature, and thus they can be seen as incarnations of good and evil, they should also be producing photons and such with their bodies. Other spirits can also turn into light.
The beams consistently travel in a straight line
Proof. There is exactly one time where the beam is not straight, and that’s when Varrick accidentally fires it from the train. He did say that reverse magnetic polarity was involved, which sounds like the Faraday effect. After Varrick flees from Kuvira’s army, Baatar Jr copies Varrick’s work and perfects the beam.
Who would this scale to?
If applied, the Colossus, Vaatu, Unavaatu, Raava, and Cosmic Korra would all get “speed of light” with their beams. Anyone who dodges the beams without aim-dodging would also scale.
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Honestly, I can't comment on this because I don't understand much about the the standards about lightspeed but what you wrote seems to be correct.I made a rough draft of a crt that could upgrade the speed of the spirit beams. Since this would be pretty controversial, I wanted to post it here first. Some feedback would be appreciated.
The point of this crt is to prove that all of the sp beams being thrown around in Avatar are primarily composed of light, particularly the purple ones fired by Vaatu and the Colossus.
The beam refracts in a new material
The beam refracts when it passes through Cosmic Korra's body
The beam diffuses in a reasonably realistic way or reflects off a material that it can be expected to, such as a non-magical mirror
Yep. The light is diffusing so that the area near Korra and Unavaatu are lit up by their respective colors
It is stated to be composed/consisting of photons or light itself, again by a reliable source
- Bryke calls spirit energy a light source.
- The spirit portals, when opened, appear as beams of light (I’ll explain why the portals are relevant in a bit).
- When Aang is freed from the iceberg, the avatar state shoots a light into the sky which Zuko, the creators, and one of the show’s writers call light (it also creates an aurora.) The avatar state is the avatar drawing from Raava’s power (aka, the spirit of light and peace), which in turn comes from cosmic energy. Raava at full power should be capable of firing a beam like Vaatu, since Raava is Vaatu’s equal and opposite. Though the game is not canonical, Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl shows this on the Legend of Korra stage, indicating that the developers of that game think the same way.
- At one point Varrick calls the beam a laser.
I should note that the context of him saying this is during the middle of a hypothetical movie that he is making, based on events that have happened in the show so far. However, it should also be noted that Varrick himself is the person who invented the spirit beam that the Earth Empire later adopted. He witnessed the fight between Unavaatu and giant Korra from his jail cell.
Given that he is an inventor and a genius, he should know what a laser is, especially since had created a movie that featured a laser in it.
And the writers confirmed that the Unavaatu’s ray was what inspired him
It has its origin at a realistic source of light, such as a camera
The mecha’s beam comes from spirit vines, which are obviously not a realistic source of light. However, when Vaarick is harnessing the energy from the vines for the first time (right before the first beam is accidentally fired) he says this:
So electromagnetism was involved during the firing of the beam. This isn’t the first time that electromagnetism is mentioned in the Avatarverse, as Jinora brings it up earlier. She also brings up the light spectrum.
Speaking of spirit vine energy and Vaatu’s ray, the ttrpg confirms that the energy in the vines and the energy that makes up the spirit portals is the same type of energy. This is self-evident, since Korra bending spirit energy made a portal, but it’s good to have confirmation.
This is relevant because when one of the portals opens, it produces an aurora.
The creators have said that the portals are spitting out pure energy whose origin is celestial in nature.
This is a good quote because it essentially confirms that nature in the avatar world can be observed through a scientific approach, as science, astronomy, etc all exist, but it also can be observed through a supernatural approach. Bending skills are using the real elements: when lightningbending is being used, it’s real lightning. The same thing goes for the spirits: when the moon spirit is fatally wounded, the moon actually disappears, and when the ocean spirit rises up, the creator’s commentary calls it the ocean. Therefore, this same approach should be applied to Raava and Vaatu, as while the concept they embody definitely has an effect on nature, and thus they can be seen as incarnations of good and evil, they should also be producing photons and such with their bodies. Other spirits can also turn into light.
The beams consistently travel in a straight line
Proof. There is exactly one time where the beam is not straight, and that’s when Varrick accidentally fires it from the train. He did say that reverse magnetic polarity was involved, which sounds like the Faraday effect. After Varrick flees from Kuvira’s army, Baatar Jr copies Varrick’s work and perfects the beam.
Who would this scale to?
If applied, the Colossus, Vaatu, Unavaatu, Raava, and Cosmic Korra would all get “speed of light” with their beams. Anyone who dodges the beams without aim-dodging would also scale.
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I will probably post it on the content revision forum at the end of my work week.
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No context.
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Toph vs Terra - Geokinetic Glass Cannons
Yeah they’re the same tier now Terra (Teen Titans) vs Toph Beifong Both 7-C, Speed is equalized
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Since you've stopped by, Maverick, what do you think of my post here? I've been reluctant to post it cause I'm not ready to deal with the pushback for trying to introduce ftl Avatar.Toph vs Terra - Geokinetic Glass Cannons
Yeah they’re the same tier now Terra (Teen Titans) vs Toph Beifong Both 7-C, Speed is equalizedvsbattles.com
I made a rough draft of a crt that could upgrade the speed of the spirit beams. Since this would be pretty controversial, I wanted to post it here first. Some feedback would be appreciated.
The point of this crt is to prove that all of the sp beams being thrown around in Avatar are primarily composed of light, particularly the purple ones fired by Vaatu and the Colossus.
The beam refracts in a new material
The beam refracts when it passes through Cosmic Korra's body
The beam diffuses in a reasonably realistic way or reflects off a material that it can be expected to, such as a non-magical mirror
Yep. The light is diffusing so that the area near Korra and Unavaatu are lit up by their respective colors
It is stated to be composed/consisting of photons or light itself, again by a reliable source
- Bryke calls spirit energy a light source.
- The spirit portals, when opened, appear as beams of light (I’ll explain why the portals are relevant in a bit).
- When Aang is freed from the iceberg, the avatar state shoots a light into the sky which Zuko, the creators, and one of the show’s writers call light (it also creates an aurora.) The avatar state is the avatar drawing from Raava’s power (aka, the spirit of light and peace), which in turn comes from cosmic energy. Raava at full power should be capable of firing a beam like Vaatu, since Raava is Vaatu’s equal and opposite. Though the game is not canonical, Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl shows this on the Legend of Korra stage, indicating that the developers of that game think the same way.
- At one point Varrick calls the beam a laser.
I should note that the context of him saying this is during the middle of a hypothetical movie that he is making, based on events that have happened in the show so far. However, it should also be noted that Varrick himself is the person who invented the spirit beam that the Earth Empire later adopted. He witnessed the fight between Unavaatu and giant Korra from his jail cell.
Given that he is an inventor and a genius, he should know what a laser is, especially since had created a movie that featured a laser in it.
And the writers confirmed that the Unavaatu’s ray was what inspired him
It has its origin at a realistic source of light, such as a camera
The mecha’s beam comes from spirit vines, which are obviously not a realistic source of light. However, when Vaarick is harnessing the energy from the vines for the first time (right before the first beam is accidentally fired) he says this:
So electromagnetism was involved during the firing of the beam. This isn’t the first time that electromagnetism is mentioned in the Avatarverse, as Jinora brings it up earlier. She also brings up the light spectrum.
Speaking of spirit vine energy and Vaatu’s ray, the ttrpg confirms that the energy in the vines and the energy that makes up the spirit portals is the same type of energy. This is self-evident, since Korra bending spirit energy made a portal, but it’s good to have confirmation.
This is relevant because when one of the portals opens, it produces an aurora.
The creators have said that the portals are spitting out pure energy whose origin is celestial in nature.
This is a good quote because it essentially confirms that nature in the avatar world can be observed through a scientific approach, as science, astronomy, etc all exist, but it also can be observed through a supernatural approach. Bending skills are using the real elements: when lightningbending is being used, it’s real lightning. The same thing goes for the spirits: when the moon spirit is fatally wounded, the moon actually disappears, and when the ocean spirit rises up, the creator’s commentary calls it the ocean. Therefore, this same approach should be applied to Raava and Vaatu, as while the concept they embody definitely has an effect on nature, and thus they can be seen as incarnations of good and evil, they should also be producing photons and such with their bodies. Other spirits can also turn into light.
The beams consistently travel in a straight line
Proof. There is exactly one time where the beam is not straight, and that’s when Varrick accidentally fires it from the train. He did say that reverse magnetic polarity was involved, which sounds like the Faraday effect. After Varrick flees from Kuvira’s army, Baatar Jr copies Varrick’s work and perfects the beam.
Who would this scale to?
If applied, the Colossus, Vaatu, Unavaatu, Raava, and Cosmic Korra would all get “speed of light” with their beams. Anyone who dodges the beams without aim-dodging would also scale.
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There are times in the shows where everything slows down as the heroes react to an attacker, seemingly done for cool effect (Aang using airbending to propel himself away from Combustion Man, Zuko running to intercept Azula's lightning away from Katara, Korra reacting to a bomb explosion). In the newest Yangchen novel, there's this passage which hints that this happens in-verse during times of stress. Would this be an example of perception manipulation?
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