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Big Moon Knight Rework

I just noticed the "Low 1-A" when empowered by Demogoblin part, which doesn't make any logical sense, as Demogoblin just isn't anywhere near that powerful, so I think that we should consider the feat used as a basis for that as a massive idiotic storytelling outlier or out of context. 🙏

I mean there is the Moon Shade stuff, even if the rest of the justifications are meaningless fluff.
 
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What is Moon Knight doing on the High 1-A category?
 
I just noticed the "Low 1-A" when empowered by Demogoblin part, which doesn't make any logical sense, as Demogoblin just isn't anywhere near that powerful, so I think that we should consider the feat used as a basis for that as a massive idiotic storytelling outlier or out of context. 🙏

It's the Moonshade feats. It's kinda strange you immediately go for the "idiotic storytelling" when you didn't read the scans? If you did, you would see that the Demogoblin had nothing to do with the Moonshade fight. The reason why it's there is because it happened during the same era as he was empowered by the demogoblin.

In your defense however, the profile is, currently, extremely difficult to read and could use some polish in that department.
 
I did browse through the scans, but the only justification seems to be that Moon Knight was empowered by the Demogoblin (who is just an ordinary demon from Limbo who copied the Hobgoblin, if I remember correctly) and I did not notice any demonstrations of anything remotely approaching a Low 1-A scale of power from Moonshade during their fight, just some alternative universe hopping. So it either seems to have been empty boasts or an enormous nonsensical outlier or both. In either case, my judgement is that Low 1-A doesn't make any sense whatsoever in that context and definitely needs to be removed. It is not approved. 🙏
 
I did browse through the scans, but the only justification seems to be that Moon Knight was empowered by the Demogoblin (who is just an ordinary demon from Limbo who copied the Hobgoblin, if I remember correctly) and I did not notice any demonstrations of anything remotely approaching a Low 1-A scale of power from Moonshade during their fight, just some alternative universe hopping. So it either seems to have been empty boasts or an enormous nonsensical outlier or both. In either case, my judgement is that Low 1-A doesn't make any sense whatsoever in that context and definitely needs to be removed. It is not approved. 🙏
He had Franklin Richards power and was stated to have pandimensional/omnidimensional power.
 
Could he use it to enhance himself to anywhere near that scale physically, or was he a massive glass cannon, like the Molecule Man? It seems most likely that he was either a complete glass cannon or that it was an enormous outlier. 🙏
 
Could he use it to enhance himself to anywhere near that scale physically, or was he a massive glass cannon, like the Molecule Man? It seems most likely that he was either a complete glass cannon or that it was an enormous outlier. 🙏
I highly doubt they would have physically fought moon knight if they were a glass cannon, and considering the fact that the guy has 6 appearances I highly doubt it’s an outlier
 
Could he use it to enhance himself to anywhere near that scale physically, or was he a massive glass cannon, like the Molecule Man? It seems most likely that he was either a complete glass cannon or that it was an enormous outlier. 🙏
Actually, while it isn't an outlier per se given how Moon Shade is stated to be a "multi-dimensional" being who can't usually be touched by 3D beings, IIRC his power and dimensionality were nullified/weakened by Adamantium.

Am I correct on this?
 
Actually, while it isn't an outlier per se given how Moon Shade is stated to be a "multi-dimensional" being who can't usually be touched by 3D beings, IIRC his power and dimensionality were nullified/weakened by Adamantium.


Am I correct on this?
Confluctor already made it better clear in the description, I don't know what else to add, lmao.
 
I highly doubt they would have physically fought moon knight if they were a glass cannon, and considering the fact that the guy has 6 appearances I highly doubt it’s an outlier
It is blatantly an enormous outlier for Moon Knight and Demogoblin, and the character that Moon Knight fought did not appear to be physically powerful. 🙏
 
Why isn't anyone removing moon knight from the high 1-A category?
Yes, you need to fix this, and a 1-A Demogoblin has been rejected, so that needs to be removed as well. 🙏
 
It is blatantly an enormous outlier for Moon Knight and Demogoblin, and the character that Moon Knight fought did not appear to be physically powerful. 🙏
moon knight has a valid varies mechanic so your outlier argument kind of breaks down unless you can prove that moon knight wasn’t low 1-A while Konshu was giving him more power then he was in that fight
 
moon knight has a valid varies mechanic so your outlier argument kind of breaks down unless you can prove that moon knight wasn’t low 1-A while Konshu was giving him more power then he was in that fight
This was long before Khonshu started greatly empowering Moon Knight. All that is stated as a justification is that Moon Knight was empowered by an extremely low-level demon from Limbo. Stop arguing just for the sake of arguing please. This part of Moon Knight's profile page should be adjusted, period. 🙏
 
This was long before Khonshu started greatly empowering Moon Knight. All that is stated as a justification is that Moon Knight was empowered by an extremely low-level demon from Limbo. Stop arguing just for the sake of arguing please. This part of Moon Knight's profile page should be adjusted, period. 🙏
I am not arguing for the sake of argument, that fight literally isn’t even the first time moon knight did low 1-A stuff and it definitely isn’t before he had multiple varies mechanics, and him being empowered by demogoblin is neither the only stated justification nor even the main reason he’s low 1-A
 
Well, what is explicitly stated within the profile page is that Demogoblin, a character comparable with Spider-Man, somehow empowered Moon Knight to 1-A, so yes, you seem to relentlessly argue, stonewall, and be unreasonable simply for the sake of as much character exaggeration as possible, regardless how little logical sense this blatantly makes. 🙏
 
Has the "1-A due to being empowered by Demogoblin" information been removed or adjusted yet?

If Demogoblin (who is roughly equal to Spider-Man) was Moon Knight's only power source at the time, we have to consider it an enormous outlier, or the opponent as being a glass cannon.

Also, Franklin was not considered to be nearly as powerful back then. 🙏
 
I don’t have any problems scaling Demogoblin to any level, unlike Ant (I don’t know anything about neither MK nor the goblin). However, the “empoweredness” implies that it is a momentary buff. For how long does MK hold this power?
 
Has the "1-A due to being empowered by Demogoblin" information been removed or adjusted yet?

If Demogoblin (who is roughly equal to Spider-Man) was Moon Knight's only power source at the time, we have to consider it an enormous outlier, or the opponent as being a glass cannon.

Also, Franklin was not considered to be nearly as powerful back then. 🙏
It's just a wording problem, Ant. If you read the scans, you'd know that it's a mixture of weaponry and his own haxs. His weapons during that time had power null and dimensional altering properties that made him capable to hurt someone at that level. Just change the "empowered by Demogoblin" by "1-A with weaponry and some abilities." The tiering is going to change back to L1A anyways.
 
It's just a wording problem, Ant. If you read the scans, you'd know that it's a mixture of weaponry and his own haxs. His weapons during that time had power null and dimensional altering properties that made him capable to hurt someone at that level. Just change the "empowered by Demogoblin" by "1-A with weaponry and some abilities." The tiering is going to change back to L1A anyways.
It should honestly be Low 1-A anyways due to Franklin Richards being Low 1-A as well as the Omni-Dimensional stuff. Thought I'd changed that but guess I was wrong.
 
Well, it is very likely an enormous extremely bad writing outlier, but you at the very least have to reword it to likely being empowered by Khonshu, not the effing Demogoblin. 🙏
 
I don’t have any problems scaling Demogoblin to any level, unlike Ant (I don’t know anything about neither MK nor the goblin). However, the “empoweredness” implies that it is a momentary buff. For how long does MK hold this power?
Yes, if it was BOTH extremely temporary AND and enormous outlier, it shouldn't be included anyway according to our rules. 🙏
 
I don’t have any problems scaling Demogoblin to any level, unlike Ant (I don’t know anything about neither MK nor the goblin). However, the “empoweredness” implies that it is a momentary buff. For how long does MK hold this power?
For the entire duration of it's key. Just look at the name of it.

Well, it is very likely an enormous extremely bad writing outlier, but you at the very least have to reword it to likely being empowered by Khonshu, not the effing Demogoblin. 🙏
It's just a wording problem, Ant. If you read the scans, you'd know that it's a mixture of weaponry and his own haxs. His weapons during that time had power null and dimensional altering properties that made him capable to hurt someone at that level. Just change the "empowered by Demogoblin" by "1-A with weaponry and some abilities." The tiering is going to change back to L1A anyways.
Ant. If you read the scans, you'd know that it's a mixture of weaponry and his own haxs. His weapons during that time had power null and dimensional altering properties that made him capable to hurt someone at that level.
 
Okay. I suppose that you likely just need to reword the "empowered by Demogoblin" part then. Is somebody willing to handle it please? 🙏
 
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