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Bleach - Speed Downgrades
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This guys whole gig is “muh anime primary canon” while ignoring the manga is still valid. Yet you agree with him. CrazyIgnore it if you were referring to another calc.
And even then he’s still ignoring multipliers lol
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I agree because it doesn't limit my soon to be CRT,d FTL captains agenda. I love this thread man, thank you.
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Make it already
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I would have but i have been reworking on a new seretei calc, the old one doesnt do it much justice imo but it's been taken a minute to finish but i need do that one first since it is important before i do my low 5b mid tier bleach upgrade then i will work on speed and LS. I love how the recents downgrades are making it easy for me lowkey. Though unfortunately, it is going to take a while to do this all because i have a job that takes a lot of energy and other things distracting me but i will work on it soon, trust in the process....... ig?
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Please don't derail here
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My bad.
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Finally decided to read through all the pages and i find myself in agreement with many people here.
Agree with everything exept the cap.
Agree with everything exept the cap.
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Chill man
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Grace has passed right?
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Yeah
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Based off a recent problem with another Bleach calc, this made me think, the accepted multipliers aren’t being used correctly. Based off the most current accepted calc, Bankai Ichigo is Mach 37 while Hollow mask Bankai Ichigo is Mach 185. That’s fine until hollow Ichigo disperses an attack that’s 10x stronger via Grimmjow fires at him(Gran Rey Cero). Which has been accepted as 10x due to being as strong or stronger than a cero Oscuras which has been stated to be an “order of magnitude” stronger than a regular cero. And both being stated to destroy Las Noches.
A Hollow mask is accepted as being an increase to all stats, which Ichigo proves when he completely outclasses Grimmjow with it in their first fight, so speed should be included. Based on the OP in the other thread, the correct speed should be
Grimmjow fight Ichigo: HHS+(mach 37) MHS(Mach 370)
FH Ichigo: MHS( Mach 370) higher at full power(Mach 740)
FB: MHS(Mach 370)
Fullbring Zanpakuto: at least MHS(Mach 370) MHS+ with Bankai(Mach 1850)
True zanpakuto: at least MHS+(mach 1850) sub realistic with Bankai(Mach 9250)
Merged hollow form: at least sub realistic(Mach 9250) sub realistic+ with Bankai(Mach 46,250).
This takes into account that when the accepted 10x multiplier for Hollow mask Ichigo was accepted, no one updated the speed to correspond with it. And given FB Bankai Ichigo has shown feats that far surpass his Bankai+Hollow form since his FB Bankai includes fullbring+hollow power as stated by Kubo, I think it’s it’s appropriate for FB Bankai Ichigo and his more powerful forms to get the 10x increase to all stats.
If that’s accepted, it would simply double the speed for FB Bankai Ichigo and his more powerful forms
A Hollow mask is accepted as being an increase to all stats, which Ichigo proves when he completely outclasses Grimmjow with it in their first fight, so speed should be included. Based on the OP in the other thread, the correct speed should be
Grimmjow fight Ichigo: HHS+(mach 37) MHS(Mach 370)
FH Ichigo: MHS( Mach 370) higher at full power(Mach 740)
FB: MHS(Mach 370)
Fullbring Zanpakuto: at least MHS(Mach 370) MHS+ with Bankai(Mach 1850)
True zanpakuto: at least MHS+(mach 1850) sub realistic with Bankai(Mach 9250)
Merged hollow form: at least sub realistic(Mach 9250) sub realistic+ with Bankai(Mach 46,250).
This takes into account that when the accepted 10x multiplier for Hollow mask Ichigo was accepted, no one updated the speed to correspond with it. And given FB Bankai Ichigo has shown feats that far surpass his Bankai+Hollow form since his FB Bankai includes fullbring+hollow power as stated by Kubo, I think it’s it’s appropriate for FB Bankai Ichigo and his more powerful forms to get the 10x increase to all stats.
If that’s accepted, it would simply double the speed for FB Bankai Ichigo and his more powerful forms
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Is that accepted for speed?
I also decided to wait for Nova's speed crt, since he said he'll post it soon
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Yes, the Hollow mask is accepted as an all around boost.
If we need to wait for Nova’s crt that’s fine as well
If you want I can bring examples of a hollow mask providing a speed boost
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After the last few CRTs/Calc blogs that have made it so I'd have to redo a lot of work for not only Part 2, but also my already accepted Part 1, I'm not doing that CRT or any speed CRTs anymore, as it's become evident that people prefer constantly changing the numbers over fixing the speed keys and scaling of profiles.
This is not a matter of downgrades or upgrades, it's a matter of me knowing that people are now going to be constantly changing speed calcs in either directions.
So feel free to do whatever now (including applying the changes for the Arrancar Arc), I don't care.
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I see, that's unfortunate.
Will do a follow up thread to this one then, applying Rodri's calc thread, with new values using the current chainscaling
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what's there to reply to?
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The hell is with people and creating imaginary versions of me that say imaginary things? Well, responding to a troll is not worth the time, so I'm cutting it off here.
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@SilentBob34 I've deleted your comments you made being needlessly hostile and disrespectful, keep that up and you will be reported in RVR
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please tell me how any of those comments violate the rules.
What’s even crazier is as someone who just accepts a certain persons scaling, you don’t even listen to the other side.
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Needlessly hostile
Needlessly hostile
Needlessly hostile and disrespectfulYou didn’t say that lol. You’ve given up
I already knew you were kinda off the hinges with your scaling but if you’re gonna fold like that, then yeah, back out
Needlessly hostile and disrespectful and calling another user a wanker for no good reason
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Fullbring Zanpakuto and Merged Hollow are indeed 10x
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You consider those hostile? Jesus christ this site is sad if those are comsidered “hostile”. How sensitive is this site? Not that youre a benchmark or anything
Dude deletes valid claims because it (hurts they’re feelings) if that isn’t a total abuse of power I dont know what is
What makes it even worse is this guy brings up a comment from a random thread that has nothing to do with this. Like I’m sorry dale, you don’t deserve the authority of moderator, your bias and softness shows and frankly is unsuitable to be someone that has a say in threads
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This is something I don’t get, this site preaches about being fair and not using bad words, but a staff member can just pull up random quotes and use it in their favor. And deem it “hostile” like that’s abuse of power no matter how you look at it
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What are you even on about right now?? I have no stakes here but you are definitely out of line in your comments.
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