• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

DC Comics Hax/Abilities and Stats Fixing (Part 2)

GeneralSol16 said:
Because they don't scale at all.
A lot of N52 scaling comes from Rebirth, where they're supooslh Tier 3, even tho they're clearly closer to being Tier 4.
So that should be fixed
Click to expand...
So most 4-Bs (such as Aquaman, Wonder Woman and those scaling near her) should be 3-C?
 
Lloydblitzed said:
So most 4-Bs (such as Aquaman, Wonder Woman and those scaling near her) should be 3-C?
Click to expand...
Diana yes, at least her Rebirth key. That was talked a few months ago but was never applied.
Actually, there should be different pages / keys for the Rebirth versions, as Shoes does.

The main point is that the N52 profiles should be revised, since all of the feats that they scale from are from different continuities.
 
GeneralSol16 said:
Diana yes, at least her Rebirth key. That was talked a few months ago but was never applied.
Actually, there should be different pages / keys for the Rebirth versions, as Shoes does.

The main point is that the N52 profiles should be revised, since all of the feats that they scale from are from different continuities.
Click to expand...
Well if a CRT about it was passed, then we should apply changes
 
I was asked to check the P&A stuff.

The spirit Aquaman can interact with doesn't seem to be intangible in nature.
Enhanced senses seems to be less actual perception and more him correctly surmising the creature's nature. If it was sensory it'd be ESP rather than enhanced senses probably.
I'm not sure about Raven's information thing, the people exploring the Speed Force Wall seem pretty material so it might just be that the comic doesn't go for that interpretation.
For the ice resistance thing it seems like she's being affected like the others, she can just ignore the effects by transforming. So it's only the soul self with the resistance.
Trigon is currently rated as 4-B. Your argument seems like a convincing reason to upgrade him but his profile would have to be edited, not just Raven's. In doing so Kon-El's scaling to him should be removed
Superboy didn't seem to fly into the event horizon. He says the planet was about to be pulled into the black hole.
The scan in which Superboy allegedly "tags" Diana shows her deflecting the attack, that is decidedly not "tagging". Remove that and I'll tentatively sign off on the scaling but the Eradicator fight (you mis-referenced btw, the one allegedly from Superman #6 is from #5 instead) is weird, Eradicator does overpower both him and Lois in the Hellbat armor but a level of relativity is implied, so it ought to be fine.

Rest of the P&A stuff as well as Raven's key is fine.
 
Armorchompy said:
I was asked to check the P&A stuff.

The spirit Aquaman can interact with doesn't seem to be intangible in nature.
Click to expand...
The spirit is presented in a liquified like state so it should at least grant him with some kind of Elemental NPI

Armorchompy said:
I'm not sure about Raven's information thing, the people exploring the Speed Force Wall seem pretty material so it might just be that the comic doesn't go for that interpretation.
Click to expand...
I mean Info Type 2 is all about Information composing reality itself, so it shouldn't really be an anti feat
Armorchompy said:
Superboy didn't seem to fly into the event horizon. He says the planet was about to be pulled into the black hole.
Click to expand...
He needs to go into the singularity to recharge the event horizon gravity so that it keeps pushing the planet away, so he technically needs to resist the gravitational "push" from the event horizon to move close to the black hole
 
Lloydblitzed said:
The spirit is presented in a liquified like state so it should at least grant him with some kind of Elemental NPI
Click to expand...
When she's destroyed at the end, or also in other parts of the story?
Lloydblitzed said:
I mean Info Type 2 is all about Information composing reality itself, so it shouldn't really be an anti feat
Click to expand...
Maybe, not my field of expertise.
Lloydblitzed said:
He needs to go into the singularity to recharge the event horizon gravity so that it keeps pushing the planet away, so he technically needs to resist the gravitational "push" from the event horizon to move close to the black hole
Click to expand...
It just sounds like he's shooting into it. Also this just isn't how black holes work
 
As far as the additions Armorchompy addressed, I agree with him on Hawks, Aquaman NPI, Ice resistance, Trigon, and Superboy's blackhole LS feat.

Neutral on Raven's info manip.

And the rest of the abilities section, I agree with
 
Armorchompy said:
It just sounds like he's shooting into it. Also this just isn't how black holes work
Click to expand...
Godernet said:
As far as the additions Armorchompy addressed, I agree with him on Hawks, Aquaman NPI, Ice resistance, Trigon, and Superboy's blackhole LS feat.
Click to expand...
Actually, I've re-read the issue and he was able to affect/knock the Sun with a punch as well as challenge Solaris, a living Sun, to a test of Brute Strength, so the Black Hole thing can be replaced with the Stellar LS feat instead for Superboy
 
What our staff members have accepted here can probably be applied, but not what they have rejected. 🙏
 
Moving something with a punch is explicitly not LS. The Solaris bit should be fine but I don't really think it works as standalone evidence, given he's clearly not thinking much about the situation (given he'd just be taken out by the red sunlight...)
 
Armorchompy said:
Moving something with a punch is explicitly not LS. The Solaris bit should be fine but I don't really think it works as standalone evidence, given he's clearly not thinking much about the situation (given he'd just be taken out by the red sunlight...)
Click to expand...
He's talking about how he beat him in the past by a test of brute strength, and not only Solaris is here to kill him now, but he thinks nobody else should have the burden to clash with him. He clearly sees that situation seriously
 
Armorchompy said:
Moving something with a punch is explicitly not LS. The Solaris bit should be fine but I don't really think it works as standalone evidence, given he's clearly not thinking much about the situation (given he'd just be taken out by the red sunlight...)
Click to expand...
Thank you for helping out. I think that seems reasonable. 🙏
 
I just realized we're already scaling Superman and other kryptonians to Stellar. I guess that's fine then lol, just add "Should be comparable to Superman" as the primary reason. Same species, same power source, if they're relative in AP and Speed they're probably relative in LS too, and the star stuff kinda confirms it
 
Armorchompy said:
I just realized we're already scaling Superman and other kryptonians to Stellar. I guess that's fine then lol, just add "Should be comparable to Superman" as the primary reason. Same species, same power source, if they're relative in AP and Speed they're probably relative in LS too, and the star stuff kinda confirms it
Click to expand...
Why's Clark Stellelar in LS?
 
Last edited:
GeneralSol16 said:
Diana yes, at least her Rebirth key. That was talked a few months ago but was never applied.
Actually, there should be different pages / keys for the Rebirth versions, as Shoes does.

The main point is that the N52 profiles should be revised, since all of the feats that they scale from are from different continuities.
Click to expand...
Yeah I think we need to separate the Post Flashpoint pages into New 52 and Rebirth. That’s a problem for another thread though ig.
 
Legion350 said:
Yeah I think we need to separate the Post Flashpoint pages into New 52 and Rebirth. That’s a problem for another thread though ig.
Click to expand...
Many profiles also got the new 52/Rebirth split into 2 keys or merge into 1 too, so I think the issue is mainly to seperate the keys
 
The issue is that the site doesn’t handle rebirth, new 52, and post flashpoint consistently. Superman has two different pages for Rebirth and New 52, but the others don’t, which makes it weird. Also many post Flashpoint pages have more than just two keys. For instance, Wonder Woman’s Post Flashpoint page doesn’t specify which keys are from Rebirth or the New 52 era which causes unnecessary confusion.

But anyways, the changes seem fine for now.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Lloydblitzed
  • Locked
DC Rebirth: Simple but Large Update
Replies
19
Views
2K
Vietthai96
Vietthai96
KirbyFan03
  • Locked
New Gods Physiology thread
2 3
Replies
107
Views
8K
Emirp sumitpo
Emirp sumitpo
AlipheeseXIV
  • Locked
Profile Overhauls Part 2/2
Replies
18
Views
2K
TWILIGHT-OP
TWILIGHT-OP
AlipheeseXIV
  • Locked
Hetero Tower Upgrade Part 2/2
2
Replies
40
Views
3K
Xdsagecat
Xdsagecat
AlipheeseXIV
  • Locked
Hetero Tower Upgrade Part 1/2
Replies
26
Views
1K
Planck69
Planck69
Back
Top