Featherine vs Void Shiki

[Robo432343]

Featherine Augustus Aurora

The writing end when the writing ends... No... Accurately said, it is not written to an end. If you write a story to a certain point, can you say it is fully written? This has been paining me in all those long years as someone who writes. The journeys of humans make for such interesting stories...

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Ryougi Shiki

Everything in existence has a flaw. Not to mention humans, but air, will, and even time. It's natural to have an end if it has a beginning. My eyes can see the death of things. That's why... as long as it exists, I can even kill God.Shiki Ryougi Shiki Ryougi (両儀式, Ryōgi Shiki) is the protagonist...

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[Robo432343]

bump

 

[KingNanaya]

I could have sworn this was done before

 

[Robo432343]

I could have sworn this was done before

last time it was done was 3 years ago

 

[KingNanaya]

last time it was done was 3 years ago

Did it reach a conclusion? And if it did, what's changed since then?

 

[Robo432343]

Did it reach a conclusion?

not really lol but everyone was saying how void shiki outhaxes

And if it did, what's changed since then?

void shiki does not have acausality 5 anymore coz of this thread

Acausality Type 5 checklist

Alright, after the last Type 5 thread didn't go so well due to miscommunication on what the standards were, let alone who exactly qualified for the new standards or not. I'm redoing this now that I've gotten a better grasp on what does and doesn't qualify for type 5 Acausality. Let's get the...

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and transduality/nonduality does not grant you immunity to things unless stated

Nonduality doesn't make you immune to things until stated

The nonduality page says that being nondual regarding something makes you immune to attacks using that thing. My simple proposal: Remove that, because in general that is simply not true. Instead make it something a verse can have the ability do if it clarifies the ability does that. I first...

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[KingNanaya]

Aight, cool. I'll look at the profiles and make a post on my thoughts when I get home.

 

[Robo432343]

i think this will be incon because of featherine's annoying plot manip

it will stop her from losing this fight

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

and transduality/nonduality does not grant you immunity to things unless stated

Nonduality doesn't make you immune to things until stated

The nonduality page says that being nondual regarding something makes you immune to attacks using that thing. My simple proposal: Remove that, because in general that is simply not true. Instead make it something a verse can have the ability do if it clarifies the ability does that. I first...

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Transduality by default makes you immune. She has transduality.

 

[Robo432343]

Transduality by default makes you immune. She has transduality.

its supposed to be nonduality according to the nonduality page but the profile is outdated

• Examples: Eternity (Marvel Comics), Swirl of the Root (Nasuverse), The Dharmakaya (Journey to the West)

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

its supposed to be nonduality according to the nonduality page but the profile is outdated

• Examples: Eternity (Marvel Comics), Swirl of the Root (Nasuverse), The Dharmakaya (Journey to the West)

Doesn't seem outdated. It's just listing general examples here for both transduality and nonduality.

 

[Robo432343]

Doesn't seem outdated. It's just listing general examples here for both transduality and nonduality.

ohhhh ok

so featherines plot hax wont work because of transduality 3?

 

[Tdjwo]

Doesn't Void Shiki stomp cuz of transduality? And pretty much everything Featherine has, Shiki simply ignores.
Also, Plot manip is pointless in this matchup since both characters have it.

 

[Robo432343]

Doesn't Void Shiki stomp cuz of transduality?

featherine can save herself from plot manip i think

And pretty much everything Featherine has, Shiki simply ignores.
Also, Plot manip is pointless in this matchup since both characters have it.

wait what
plot manip has not been accepted yet

 

[Tdjwo]

featherine can save herself from plot manip i think

I know. Only if Shiki uses plot manip. But with other abilities, I don't think so

wait what
plot manip has not been accepted yet

Other characters with Plot manip in the verse. Void Shiki owns all the abilities in the verse.

 

[Robo432343]

I know.

Other characters with Plot manip in the verse. Void Shiki owns all the abilities in the verse.

who has plot manip in nasu

if someone has plot manip in nasu, wouldn't that mean void shiki resists Featherine's plot manip? Unless Featherine's plot hax is stronger

 

[Tdjwo]

who has plot manip in nasu

Solomon/Goetia, Kischur Zelretch, Author servants(Shakespeare, etc).

if someone has plot manip in nasu, wouldn't that mean void shiki resists Featherine's plot manip? Unless Featherine's plot hax is stronger

Goetia's plot hax is basically the entirety of Salem with trials with the outer gods and stuff. Pretty crazy if you ask me. And yeah, Shiki would resist Featherine's plot hax.

 

[Vlova]

aca 5 nd 3 shiki fra

 

[Robo432343]

aca 5 nd 3 shiki fra

no bro not aca 5
but nd/td 3 yes

 

[Memonto_Mori]

Shiki>>

 

[Ikelaggan]

Shiki, I'm sorry but featherine profile is just lacking hard.

 

[Vlova]

no bro not aca 5
but nd/td 3 yes

It looks like she has aca 5 in her profile.

 

[Robo432343]

It looks like she has aca 5 in her profile.

aca 5 is supposed to be deleted from her profile

 

[Vlova]

aca 5 is supposed to be deleted from her profile

why

 

[Robo432343]

why

not really lol but everyone was saying how void shiki outhaxes

void shiki does not have acausality 5 anymore coz of this thread

Acausality Type 5 checklist

Alright, after the last Type 5 thread didn't go so well due to miscommunication on what the standards were, let alone who exactly qualified for the new standards or not. I'm redoing this now that I've gotten a better grasp on what does and doesn't qualify for type 5 Acausality. Let's get the...

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It was decided here
Void Shiki gets her aca 5 from swirl of the root but the root does not have aca 5 anymore

 

[Tdjwo]

Looking at the requirements, I don't see how the root shouldn't be type 5? Kinda confused.

 

[Robo432343]

Looking at the requirements, I don't see how the root shouldn't be type 5? Kinda confused.

to qualify you need to have some statements that you're beyond causality to the point of being an unchangeable entity (essentially being unaffected by anything and everything that would affect the world in some way shape or form

 

[Tdjwo]

to qualify you need to have some statements that you're beyond causality to the point of being an unchangeable entity (essentially being unaffected by anything and everything that would affect the world in some way shape or form

And that is what the root is.

 

[Ikelaggan]

And that is what the root is.

Yeah, if ND type 3 just gives you aca type 5 but at that point featherine you might as well her aca type 5 just for transcending the realm of witches which already transcends the concept of spacetime.
I consider both having old nebulous reasons for aca type 5 both don't fit the standard cause the metaphysical jargon boogalo is unavoidable

 

[Robo432343]

And that is what the root is.

You shoulda pulled up on that aca 5 thread

Now the root doesn’t have aca 5 anymore

 

[Tdjwo]

You shoulda pulled up on that aca 5 thread

Now the root doesn’t have aca 5 anymore

Ehh..don't really care tbh