[Marvel Comics] Ending the Spider Downplay+stuff

[Suigetsuhyugs]

New Profile for Jessica Drew

Suigetsuhyugs/Sandbox

vsbattles.fandom.com

Changes

• Starting with her summary section that is now more detailed and updated
• Mostly add scans and references
• A few new abilities I found
  • Adaptation
  • Hacking with spy gear
  • Stealth mastery
• New resistances
  • Radiation and Light
  • Power null
  • Ice Manipulation
  • Mind Manipulation
• Still scales to the same value, it's not a surprise that she is comparable to Spider People. Just added a far higher for the venom blasts which are an ultimate attack from her so it scales one shot level above her physicals
• Removed the single scan on her profile which wasn't even Jessica. The scan is from Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars (1984) #7 in case anyone want to check
• Stamina and intelligence section with Justifications
• Removed "Self-Propelled Flight(?)" - This part already states how unclear that was, it was only for a singly issue and it's not even her saying or doing it, it was the Skrull as Jessica was replaced right after the surgery. She has statements that clearly state she can only glide (although there are some times where she somehow starts gliding staring on ground level).

Now just some new random additions to some characters

Captain Marvel

• Matter manipulation- Creates her suit with mater manipulation
• Inorganic Physiology in binary mode- Stated to be made of energy, stated again, stated to be capable of turning her body into energy
  • Immortality type 4- her body exploded, but her essence came back as multiple beings of energy
• Power null resistance- She still had some of her powers despite being affected by a machine that blocks powers, same machine blocked Amadeus Cho's Hulk persona, Ant Man's suit and inhumans
• Resistance to possession- Overcame Carnage's possession
• Further justification
  • Enchanced senses- Adding those to Kree page, they are more clear regarding it being a Kree natural ability Over 20/20 vision, super vision
    • Only for Captain Marvel can see in the radio band of the electromagnetic spectrum, can see bioelectric fields
  • Absortion- absorbing the phoenix force allowed her to reach the outside of space and time Support for 4D absortion I guess

Ms. Marvel

• Elemental intangibility- She can melt into a liquid state to avoid attacks

Aero

• Non standard breathing (Type 4)- Created an air bubble underwater
• Can some staff member change the name of the page to her super hero name, I messed that up when I created the page so either "Aero (Marvel Comics)" or "Aero (Lei Ling)"

Agree: Excellence616, Eseseso, DarkDragonMedeus, LordTracer, The_Impress (Not with far higher venom blasts), FinePoint
Neutral:
Disagree:

 

[Excellence616]

I agree. Carol's absorption should be outer

 

[Antvasima]

@Qawsedf234 @Firestorm808 @EmperorRorepmeThree @Elizio33 @MarvelFanatic119 @Catzlaflame @Lightning_XXI @Deagonx @Eseseso @Emirp sumitpo @Quantu @IdiosyncraticLawyer @LordTracer @ProfectusInfinity @Maverick_Zero_X @Dark-Carioca @ObberGobb @Elizhaa @DarkDragonMedeus @FinePoint @SamanPatou @Starter_Pack

What do you think about this?

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

I agree. Carol's absorption should be outer

Technically she already is I guess, she can absorb magic, can absorb gamma radiation, she even absorbed chaos magic once. This is the first time it was actually "said out loud"

 

[Eseseso]

What Excel said, and the rest looks good.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

@Qawsedf234 @Firestorm808 @EmperorRorepmeThree @Elizio33 @MarvelFanatic119 @Catzlaflame @Lightning_XXI @Deagonx @Eseseso @Emirp sumitpo @Quantu @IdiosyncraticLawyer @LordTracer @ProfectusInfinity @Maverick_Zero_X @Dark-Carioca @ObberGobb @Elizhaa @DarkDragonMedeus @FinePoint @SamanPatou @Starter_Pack

What do you think about this?

Aero

• Can some staff member change the name of the page to her super hero name, I messed that up when I created the page so either "Aero (Marvel Comics)" or "Aero (Lei Ling)"

Could you just fix the name really quick?

 

[Qawsedf234]

What do you think about this

Is Liberation Run canon to 616? It looks like a novel published by Titan Books and I dont know how we handle non-comic EU material canon wise.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Is Liberation Run canon to 616? It looks like a novel published by Titan Books and I dont know how we handle non-comic EU material canon wise.

I'm not sure how cannon it is, but it does reference things that happened in Kelly Thomson run of Captain Marvel where she is born half kree and also mentioning Lauri-ell, and it's in the same line as for example Civil War by Stuart Moore which is just a more detailed version of the civil war that actually happened in the comics.
BTW it was ByAshura who introduced me to the way of the marvel novels when he was using those on the Marvel Kree page, he said it was fine

Edit: This book does have a page in the Marvel official website.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good to me.

 

[LordTracer]

Looks fine at a glance glad I don’t have to revise Jess now

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Looks fine at a glance glad I don’t have to revise Jess now

I actually thought no one cared about her.anymore

 

[LordTracer]

I actually thought no one cared about her.anymore

She’s been on my revise list for a while, but with 700+ appearances and Wolverine, Wasp and Jubilee being higher priorities for me, it would’ve been a hot minute before I got to Jess.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

She’s been on my revise list for a while, but with 700+ appearances and Wolverine, Wasp and Jubilee being higher priorities for me, it would’ve been a hot minute before I got to Jess.

I didn't go through all the 700+ appearances, I read the most important ones then I search if there was something relevant on Google and read those.
From those I would make Wasp first her profile seems the worst among those.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

I agree. Carol's absorption should be outer

Go brrrrrr Carol is scaling to tier Low 1-C above Sentry

 

[Muteki616]

Go brrrrrr Carol is scaling to tier Low 1-C above Sentry

I'm team herald tier carol.

 

[The_Impress]

Still scales to the same value, it's not a surprise that she is comparable to Spider People. Just added a far higher for the venom blasts which are an ultimate attack from her so it scales one shot level above her physicals

I mean, that's because they bypass conventional durability though, they're bio-electric blasts which can affect characters' nervous systems, it's the rare electricity manip that does that, not an AP thing.

Even beyond that, Star and Tigra are both like, not solidly High 8-C antways, so it'll be "likely far higher" if it wasn't duraneg.

Rest is fine at a glance

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

I mean, that's because they bypass conventional durability though, they're bio-electric blasts which can affect characters' nervous systems, it's the rare electricity manip that does that, not an AP thing.

Even beyond that, Star and Tigra are both like, not solidly High 8-C antways, so it'll be "likely far higher" if it wasn't duraneg.

Star is planet level and Tigers is at most High 8-C

Rest is fine at a glance

Her Venom blasts are mostly just electricity, affecting the nervous system is how electricity is supposed to work even if fiction often forgets that, it doesn't stop her Venom blasts from having more energy than her punches.

 

[The_Impress]

Star is planet level

Varies up to

and Tigers is at most High 8-C

yeah, so both aren't solid High 8-Cs

Her Venom blasts are mostly just electricity, affecting the nervous system is how electricity is supposed to work even if fiction often forgets that, it doesn't stop her Venom blasts from having more energy than her punches.

Yeah, that's duraneg. Most fiction forgets that electricity duranegs. It doesn't net a far higher like that.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Varies up to

Her profile is very outdated, the Star that Jessica was fighting was the one that had the power of the reality stone, while the feats in her profile is about the device she was using to absorb Captain Marvel's powers, if something this one probably scales significantly higher than planet.

yeah, so both aren't solid High 8-Cs

Not when the narrative was saying Tigra was fighting as equal to Jessica and she states she can outright knock her out.

Yeah, that's duraneg. Most fiction forgets that electricity duranegs. It doesn't net a far higher like that.

Jessica's Venom blasts are also destructive, it's just like real lightning the fact that it affects the nervous system doesn't change the fact it has a powerful voltage, by the way the thing about affecting the nervous system was not something stated in the comics the marvel wiki took that out because her blasts can stun people, and spider-Woman can control the power of her blasts to either stun or kill people.

 

[FinePoint]

New Profile for Jessica Drew

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vsbattles.fandom.com

Changes

Seems like an improvement.

Captain Marvel

• Matter manipulation- Creates her suit with mater manipulation

Good.

• Inorganic Physiology in binary mode- Stated to be made of energy, stated again, stated to be capable of turning her body into energy
  • Immortality type 4- her body exploded, but her essence came back as multiple beings of energy

First two iffy based on wording, but third one is solid.
Immortality looks good.

• Power null resistance- She still had some of her powers despite being affected by a machine that blocks powers, same machine blocked Amadeus Cho's Hulk persona, Ant Man's suit and inhumanshttps://imgur.com/YzhRztB

Seems like the power null was never perfect, but she definitely seemed less affected than others so sure.

• Resistance to possession- Overcame Carnage's possession

Sure.

• Further justification
  • Enchanced senses- Adding those to Kree page, they are more clear regarding it being a Kree natural ability Over 20/20 vision, super vision
    • Only for Captain Marvel can see in the radio band of the electromagnetic spectrum, can see bioelectric fields
  • Absortion- absorbing the phoenix force allowed her to reach the outside of space and time Support for 4D absortion I guess

I always support adding more evidence.

Ms. Marvel

• Elemental intangibility- She can melt into a liquid state to avoid attacks

On top of turning into light/fire, yeah, seems good.

Aero

• Non standard breathing (Type 4)- Created an air bubble underwater

Sure.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Well.... This has 3 staff approvel and the 48h grace are up, so speak now or forever hold your peace. If there is nothing I will apply in a few hours

 

[FinePoint]

Well.... This has 3 staff approvel and the 48h grace are up, so speak now or forever hold your peace. If there is nothing I will apply in a few hours

Have you done so?

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Have you done so?

Now I did but I can't do this.

Aero

• Can some staff member change the name of the page to her super hero name, I messed that up when I created the page so either "Aero (Marvel Comics)" or "Aero (Lei Ling)"

 

[FinePoint]

Now I did but I can't do this.

Ask in this thread and link to this revision.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

This can just be closed, all applied.