Marvel's Comics' Magnificent Mystic Cosmology full of Marvelous Magic!

[Rgerdeena]

I personally think the Celestials should vary in the first tier. The named Celestials are consistently regarded as Abstract level, while the random no named Celestials vary a lot, however even they still have 1-A showings and depictions at times. So I would say varying from Low 1-A to 1-A should be good, but the strongest Celestials in-universe should still be 1-A. .

I think this could work depending on who scales to named celestials, but it would need more looking into

 

[Eseseso]

I personally think the Celestials should vary in the first tier. The named Celestials are consistently regarded as Abstract level, while the random no named Celestials vary a lot, however even they still have 1-A showings and depictions at times. So I would say varying from Low 1-A to 1-A should be good, but the strongest Celestials in-universe should still be 1-A. .

Pretty sure it's their second key that covers them being abstract level at peak

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that this is an improvement from previously, but I obviously still think that our Marvel Comics cosmology and especially its scaling has been extremely wanked at this point.

 

[MrKerf]

I suppose that this is an improvement from previously, but I obviously still think that our Marvel Comics cosmology and especially its scaling has been extremely wanked at this point.

Good thing that I held Eseseso back then

 

[NaturalDestroyer]

I suppose that this is an improvement from previously, but I obviously still think that our Marvel Comics cosmology and especially its scaling has been extremely wanked at this point.

I'd recommend reading through Eseseso's Mystic Cosmology blog in detail. It's very clear and well-supported, and frankly I'm surprised it took us as a wiki so long to reach this quality of research for the verse.

 

[Eseseso]

I suppose that this is an improvement from previously, but I obviously still think that our Marvel Comics cosmology and especially its scaling has been extremely wanked at this point.

 

[Bimgus8010]

Scarlet witch and all father Thor are 1-A at peak not skyfather tier, ygsradil is very inconsistent, pheonix force might not end up 1-A, everything else is either outliers or should be addressed by someone more knowledgeable then me

so this is listed in shumas page, therefore not an outlier because its literally accepted

what the staff agreed is an outlier would be this 1A+ scaling for nightmare for some reason

 

[Eseseso]

so this is listed in shumas page, therefore not an outlier because its literally accepted

Shuma's true form is 1-A, he only sends a manifestation of himself into the universe, though as I type this I feel like a second key would better explain this.

what the staff agreed is an outlier would be this 1A+ scaling for nightmare for some reason

Beyonders that enter the universe/multiverse vary in strength and aren't as powerful as their Beyond selves

 

[Bimgus8010]

Shuma's true form is 1-A, he only sends a manifestation of himself into the universe, though as I type this I feel like a second key would better explain this.

is that still relevant in modern age? (cuz stuff like nightmare being his servant is not relevant these days)

heck, didnt my tentacle boi got irl law diff and has to switch identities?

(nightmare is also still there in the already accepted feat for shuma 1A as well as dormmy and mephisto)

Beyonders that enter the universe/multiverse vary in strength and aren't as powerful as their Beyond selves

these are the same beyonders in secret wars, which are still considered 1A from what i remembered

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Remember this, in the OuterDark section it said this

The Old Ones, being super-dimensional entities that are both beyond the measure of normal dimensions as well as outside Eternity itself, are Beyond Dimensional (Type 2) beings

It should be type 3 instead 2

 

[Eseseso]

these are the same beyonders in secret wars, which are still considered 1A from what i remembered

On their profile it says "Varies in physical forms"

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Spoiler: Herald Downgrade

Seeing as Asgard will no longer be 5D, plus the fact that most Heralds without direct Thor scaling shouldn't actually scale to his tier, most Heralds will go back to their previous tier 3 selves, with the ones that were previously High 3-A getting that back. While people have pointed out issues with the High 3-A feats, those will be saved for a future CRT, since the main point here is to axe Low 1-C since Asgard is no longer 5-D.

May I assist you with downgrading Godzilla and Red Ronin? Their case interests me, especially since they were both previously High 3-A before the Low 1-C upgrades, and both were created for the Marvel Godzilla series.

 

[Eseseso]

May I assist you with downgrading Godzilla and Red Ronin? Their case interests me, especially since they were both previously High 3-A before the Low 1-C upgrades, and both were created for the Marvel Godzilla series.

If you want to change the Low 1-C on their pages to High 3-A feel free. Saves me a bit of work, so thanks.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

If you want to change the Low 1-C on their pages to High 3-A feel free. Saves me a bit of work, so thanks.

Done. I know updating two pages isn’t much help since I have to leave for a medical appointment today, but if this thread stays open for a while, I can help update more pages later if you’d like.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

If you want to change the Low 1-C on their pages to High 3-A feel free. Saves me a bit of work, so thanks.

So, could you please send me a list of the pages that need to be downgraded from Low 1-C to High 3-A? If you still want my help, of course.

 

[Eseseso]

So, could you please send me a list of the pages that need to be downgraded from Low 1-C to High 3-A? If you still want my help, of course.

You can check out my post on the All Purpose Request Thread, most of them still haven't been downgraded yet

 

[Re5yh]

These should be unlocked

Atum (Marvel Comics)

The sentient life form of Earth's biosphere, Demiurge, created the first Gods - known as the Elder Gods. However, these Gods fell into degeneracy and villainy, except for Gaea, Mother Earth. With her great power, she gave birth to her first child - Atum, the God of the Sun to fend off the...

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Khonshu (Marvel Comics)

Khonshu, the God of the Moon, is a primordial god in Marvel Comics. He is the very moon itself across the whole of creation, opposite of his father, Atum, the sun. He is a member of the Ennead, the Heliopolitan race of gods that were worshipped by the people of Ancient Egypt. He is the God of...

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[Apex_Predator_GX]

You can check out my post on the All Purpose Request Thread, most of them still haven't been downgraded yet

Done, I think I’ve taken care of all of them.

 

[Antvasima]

These should be unlocked

Atum (Marvel Comics)

The sentient life form of Earth's biosphere, Demiurge, created the first Gods - known as the Elder Gods. However, these Gods fell into degeneracy and villainy, except for Gaea, Mother Earth. With her great power, she gave birth to her first child - Atum, the God of the Sun to fend off the...

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Khonshu (Marvel Comics)

Khonshu, the God of the Moon, is a primordial god in Marvel Comics. He is the very moon itself across the whole of creation, opposite of his father, Atum, the sun. He is a member of the Ennead, the Heliopolitan race of gods that were worshipped by the people of Ancient Egypt. He is the God of...

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I have done so. Tell us here when they should be locked again.

 

[Re5yh]

I have done so. Tell us here when they should be locked again.

Done

 

[Eseseso]

Done

Honestly they probably could've stayed at 1-A in their true forms given that Khonshu scales to a being who threatened all realities.

 

[MaskedDragon908]

Hello.
Masked was uncertain what to do about this page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kimura_(Marvel_Comics)
Masked assumes that her skin is supposed to scale to both Laura and Wolverine's claws, but they wanted to check here.

 

[Rgerdeena]

Hello.
Masked was uncertain what to do about this page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kimura_(Marvel_Comics)
Masked assumes that her skin is supposed to scale to both Laura and Wolverine's claws, but they wanted to check here.

Yeah it should probably be high 3-A

 

[DaReaperMan]

Guuuys... You're forgetting statistics values AKA notes...

 

[Rgerdeena]

Guuuys... You're forgetting statistics values AKA notes...

what values would we put for high 3-A and low 1-A

 

[DaReaperMan]

what values would we put for high 3-A and low 1-A

Not much help there, for High 3-A most would probably be baseline short of scaling chains, but I don't know about the Low 1-As

 

[Eseseso]

Ok, I've applied everything except for a bit I need to add to the already-unlocked magic page, so this CRT can be closed.

 

[Planck69]

Closing the thread.