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MCU General CRT (Sentry, Stormbreaker, Hulk, Celestials)

Minor Bump (I still have hope that this CRT will be accepted)
It only needs one more staff vote, although I did find more abilities so it's probably best for 2 more votes (because of the abilities like abstract existence for The Void).

Either way, it's pretty close:)

Btw, for the Reality Warping part I added for Bob:
Do you think it looks good, or should Reality Warping be replaced with something else?
 
Btw, for the Reality Warping part I added for Bob:

Do you think it looks good, or should Reality Warping be replaced with something else?
pocket reality manipulation probably already covers that since his powers being used r like taking place in the void

i agree with everything, unsure abt pain manipulation tho since that could just be abt yelena’s trauma so maybe a possibly could work

idk if boiling water in a glass of cup is enough for sentry’s likely durability negation too
i dont think nigh-invulnerability works, bullets bouncing aren’t enough for that bc he’s just simply strong n tough. on bucky’s profile, he’s just stronger than his 8-C thing w his arm, so like sentry’s dura covers him not being harmed from his punch, and also john walker’s shield too. comics sentry doesnt have invulnerability on his page either i think (paraphrasing this post from an older sentry thread)

idk if resisting dura negation and phasing would work as a justification for nigh-invulnerability either because if u look at the invulnerability page
Invulnerability is the power to be immune to conventional harm.

Characters with such powers may simply be unaffected by normal attacks, necessitating the use of things like Durability Negation to get through. Others have more conditional invulnerability, such as one that just prevents harm from conventional weaponry, but can be easily circumvented by supernatural abilities. It can be considered the defensive equivalent of Durability Negation, negating simple Attack Potency, though one should be careful not to apply No Limits Fallacy.
ghost’s durability neg is like not conventional harm
 
pocket reality manipulation probably already covers that since his powers being used r like taking place in the void

i agree with everything, unsure abt pain manipulation tho since that could just be abt yelena’s trauma so maybe a possibly could work

idk if boiling water in a glass of cup is enough for sentry’s likely durability negation too

i dont think nigh-invulnerability works, bullets bouncing aren’t enough for that bc he’s just simply strong n tough. on bucky’s profile, he’s just stronger than his 8-C thing w his arm, so like sentry’s dura covers him not being harmed from his punch, and also john walker’s shield too. comics sentry doesnt have invulnerability on his page either i think (paraphrasing this post from an older sentry thread)

idk if resisting dura negation and phasing would work as a justification for nigh-invulnerability either because if u look at the invulnerability page

ghost’s durability neg is like not conventional harm
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Thank you so much for all of this feedback ❤️

1. I changed Reality Warping to Pocket Reality Manip for Bob.

2. I gave Pain Manipulation a possibly for Bob/The Void; there were some statements from the Art of Thunderbolts about the memories of Yelena/John/Valentina being painful.

3. For this one, his heat generation can reach 27,000 degrees celsius/50,000 F; do you think that could work for a likely rating assuming he has the ability to melt the insides of stuff, or no?

4. I agree. To be fair, someone else added in the Nigh-Invulnerability to his page, although I did add how the Marvel Website gave him an 'invulnerability' strength. Either way, I also agree in that it should be removed.

5/6. That makes sense(y)
 
Coming back to ask a question: Does MCU Bob have three personalities like his comic book self (Sentry and Void), or is it just him and Void?

(Sorry if this is a silly question, but Thunderbolts didn't seem to make it very clear whether Sentry is someone different from Bob or he is just Bob dressed in a superhero outfit with dyed blonde hair)
 
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Coming back to ask a question: Does Bob have three personalities like his comic book self (Sentry and Void), or is it just him and Void?

(Sorry if this is a silly question, but Thunderbolts didn't seem to make it very clear whether Sentry is someone different from Bob or he is just Bob dressed in a superhero outfit with dyed blonde hair)
Just this. The Sentry is merely a facade of Bob that Valentina was trying to capitalize on (given how she wanted a replacement for The Avengers). The scene when he stops listening to Val is meant to show that his power and potential was getting to his head, and he no longer felt the need to listen to anyone. The Sentry Files (which I linked in the CRT) was showing all the marketing schemes Val (and OXE) were creating to mend a candidate into a public friendly/attractive superhero, but Sentry never got to that point. When the Thunderbolts were retreating into the elevator after losing to him, Val said "camera crews are rolling. Finish the job". Sentry didn't listen to her and let them leave, so he straight up rejected interest in being a public personality/superhero for Val (which shows as he complained about his missions, his hair, the costume and the job of being a hero).

All The Sentry actually was is a more confident Bob with controlled superpowers, a growing god-complex and care for his friends. The confidence came from Valentina manipulating his feelings.

I'd classify it as a physical transformation, rather than an entirely separate personality.
 
https://kraken.prod.*********/api/v1/event/won?ctx=01996d5c-460f-7e75-921b-8f980f730d253. For this one, his heat generation can reach 27,000 degrees celsius/50,000 F; do you think that could work for a likely rating assuming he has the ability to melt the insides of stuff, or no?
i mean heat can count as dura negation bc things can burn from a lot of heat that they can’t handle n it would be like redundant to list dura negation with heat bc heat already does that

i just wasn’t sure abt it bc of the “superheating the insides of a glass of water” specifically since that’s like not combat-applicable & he was just boiling the water in a cup so i also assumed it’s not enough or direct to say that he could do that to someone

i would wait for a staff or someone whos like more knowledgable bc i’m lowkey not smart enoufh for it
4. I agree. To be fair, someone else added in the Nigh-Invulnerability to his page, although I did add how the Marvel Website gave him an 'invulnerability' strength. Either way, I also agree in that it should be removed.
we can make a separate thread to get that removed when we finish this one! once u add something new tho you’d have to get staff votes on those added stuff too, so like i don’t wanna overcomplicate this thread

but u could ask finepoint & spaceman again to check those added stuff out if u want

there’s also another thing i’m like iffy abt
AP Proposal for "Likely 4-B"
Since the statement "one thousand exploding suns" doesn't elaborate on what type of nova it is, I think a "1 KiloFoe to 1 MegaFoe" rating is fair.
i don’t know if this site does stuff like that

when we don’t get elaboration on what type of what is at all like i think we’d only stick with the lowest value or something

like when we had rocket at moon lvl bc of the hadron thing blowing up moons it was just baseline moon lvl bc there’s no elaboration on those type of moons being destroyed & we didn’t do like “29.6 exatons to 433 exatons”
 
i would wait for a staff or someone whos like more knowledgable bc i’m lowkey not smart enoufh for it
Don't say that, you're very smart and extremely helpful (y)❤️

After all, you didn't get Diamond Supporter for nothing. That means you'rve very good at helping out.
 
Don't say that, you're very smart and extremely helpful (y)❤️

After all, you didn't get Diamond Supporter for nothing. That means you'rve very good at helping out.
that’s so sweet omg i appreciate it 🩷

but diamond supporter means nothing ijbol i have it bc i donated to the wiki 😭 🎀
 
Wouldn't Void's Dimensional Travel just be his Multi-location btw?
Also looking at it if we gave Void:

Then wouldn't that open the door for High 3-A Void, something like "Possibly High 3-A with Existence Erasure"?
There was a CRT presenting even more evidence, but it concluded that claiming Sentry possesses infinite power would require overwhelming proof, which we did not have.
 
There was a CRT presenting even more evidence, but it concluded that claiming Sentry possesses infinite power would require overwhelming proof, which we did not have.
Ik it's just that if Existence Erasure is accepted wouldn't that also follow? I mean the Existence Erasure ability comes from the statement of him being able to "erase the universe" so if that is added onto his page it should also give him H3-A via EE no?
 
Ik it's just that if Existence Erasure is accepted wouldn't that also follow? I mean the Existence Erasure ability comes from the statement of him being able to "erase the universe" so if that is added onto his page it should also give him H3-A via EE no?
Honestly, I'm not sure. There's a big difference between acknowledging that he can erase matter and claiming that he can erase infinite matter.
 
Honestly, I'm not sure. There's a big difference between acknowledging that he can erase matter and claiming that he can erase infinite matter.
But if its the matter wouldn't it be just 3-A since it was only the space of the universe that was accepted high-3A?
 
Honestly, I'm not sure. There's a big difference between acknowledging that he can erase matter and claiming that he can erase infinite matter.
Yeah, I'm just saying that because of the fact the statement used was specifically in reference to the universe which is infinite, so I'm just figuring out how that would work out.
Depends on whether or not it gets accepted anyways, if it does we can open a discussion about it.
 
@Naeem0304 I wanna ask, what do you guys think of Bob/Sentry/Void getting Type 5 Immortality within the Void Space? Since Death doesn't exist there based on what Bob said.
 
guys i think we should actually stop adding stuff to the thread after we alrady had like two mods giving their thoughts on it before

we’d have to get finepoint n spaceman to go over the extra stuff again so it wouldn’t look like they agreed with everythinf new here bc they replied way before some stuff like the ae thing was included in the crt

we lowkey have so many unfinished mcu crts too n addingn more stuff would just make it take even longer for this to be done so honestly just save anything else for another crt
 
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