Ness - Conceptual Manipulation

[Username_uhhhIdontknow]

So, Ness’ Magicant is stated to be conceptual and has concepts within it. And the Truth of The Universe creates these dual concepts.

• Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2: Magicant functions as a laboratory of the soul. It materializes Independent Concepts such as Courage, Evil, Goodness, and Beauty. Ness thinks about these things and he directly talks to, fights alongside, and kills these concepts. By killing the "Spirit of Evil" (Ness's Nightmare), Ness erases these concepts. He removes the "unconsciously created and nurtured" evil from his own spiritual fabric, allowing him to ascend)

Agree: @Eseseso, @Kellex, @Username_uhhhIdontknow

Disagree: @BestMGQScalerEver , @SnakesCity , @SuperNova55555, @DarkDragonMedeus

 

[Eseseso]

This seems pretty blatant, so Type 2 Conceptual Manipulation is fine.

 

[Username_uhhhIdontknow]

This seems pretty blatant, so Type 2 Conceptual Manipulation is fine.

Neat

 

[Kellex]

Looking at this again, yeah I 99.9% agree with Conceptual Manipulation, but .1% unsure about it being soul.

I wanna see what the mods have to say.

 

[Username_uhhhIdontknow]

Looking at this again, yeah I 99.9% agree with Conceptual Manipulation, but .1% unsure about it being soul.

I wanna see what the mods have to say.

Agreed

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

This sounds like the concepts are mental rather than governing essences. He's just fighting the manifestations of his unconscious negative emotions and overcoming them.

 

[Username_uhhhIdontknow]

This sounds like the concepts are mental rather than governing essences. He's just fighting the manifestations of his unconscious negative emotions and overcoming them.

Would this be useful for killing Giygas?

 

[Kellex]

Would this be useful for killing Giygas?

No cause prayers are what killed Giygas.

 

[Username_uhhhIdontknow]

No cause prayers are what killed Giygas.

Right

 

[SuperNova55555]

What MGQ said

 

[SnakesCity]

Agree with MGQ.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I think MGQ is making more sense.

 

[Username_uhhhIdontknow]

Understood

 

[Vietthai96]

マジカントは、ネスの思念が実体化した世界

Magicant is a world where Ness' thoughts have materialized

ここには、ネスの心 の中の美しさや優しさ、悲しみや憎しみ、さらには邪悪 なものや凶暴な部分まで、 そのすべてが形となって現わ れる

The beauty and goodness, the pain and hatred in Ness’s heart—and even evil and savagery—take form here

This is just mental thoughts materialized into physical form. So at best this is Subjective Reality, not Conceptual Manipulation

 

[Chariot190]

Ill check later

 

[Username_uhhhIdontknow]

This is just mental thoughts materialized into physical form. So at best this is Subjective Reality, not Conceptual Manipulation

Ah neat