NLF, Metaphysical aspects and hax

[The_golden_and_silver_house94]

There some verses were certain fundamental aspects are two or more aspects on the wiki ,laws being conceptual are the most common examples, characters from the said verses have hax that are usually an application of the said aspects but in a versus scenario is it a NLF to assume that the characters can deal with a certain hax from their opponents side merely because the opponents hax has a certain aspect side they have to it even though said aspect doesn't exist in their verse


For instance


Character A can copy anything that is information type 2 and plot doesn't exist in the verse vs character B who has plot hax with the plot aspect also being information type 2 in B verse,can A copy B's hax

Or


Character D has power null on everything conceptual power,in his verse only concepts exist vs E ,who has law hax where laws are conceptual in his verse,can D null the law hax

 

[I'm_here_to_teach]

There some verses were certain fundamental aspects are two or more aspects on the wiki ,laws being conceptual are the most common examples, characters from the said verses have hax that are usually an application of the said aspects but in a versus scenario is it a NLF to assume that the characters can deal with a certain hax from their opponents side merely because the opponents hax has a certain aspect side they have to it even though said aspect doesn't exist in their verse


For instance


Character A can copy anything that is information type 2 and plot doesn't exist in the verse vs character B who has plot hax with the plot aspect also being information type 2 in B verse,can A copy B's hax

Or


Character D has power null on everything conceptual power,in his verse only concepts exist vs E ,who has law hax where laws are conceptual in his verse,can D null the law hax

Pretty sure everything it's a case by case basis and we dont assume it works on any and all fundamental aspects from another fundamental aspect. Like plot vs info type 2 wouldn't work on each other unless said verse has them.

I believe i read some where before cause this was a issue that was had with plot manipulation

 

[AlexSamDen]

Like plot vs info type 2 wouldn't work on each other unless said verse has them.

I believe there is a bit of a separate idea presented in the OP

Character A has IM2. Verse A doesn't have Plot as a listed aspect

Character B also has IM2, but as a subset of that IM2, he has Plot Manipulation. Basically in Verse B you can manipulate Plot via IM2

Basically, the question is: if A copies B's IM2 powers, would he be able to manipulate Plot via it in the same manner as B?

 

[I'm_here_to_teach]

I believe there is a bit of a separate idea presented in the OP

Character A has IM2. Verse A doesn't have Plot as a listed aspect

Character B also has IM2, but as a subset of that IM2, he has Plot Manipulation. Basically in Verse B you can manipulate Plot via IM2

Basically, the question is: if A copies B's IM2 powers, would he be able to manipulate Plot via it in the same manner as B?

I think this would just be a nlf.

im2 in b verse has a lower fundamental aspect(plot) and its higher fundamental aspect in this case im 2. Meaning the fundamental aspects would well be fundamental layering.

it would be fundamentally greater in this case and realistically shouldn't be able to even interact with it unless verse A also has layered im 2.

At least how im interpreting this obviously. Im not 100 percent sure how the wiki has agreed on here about this though . Or even if they have.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Agree with what Teach says here, even if both are IM2 the fact still is IM2 has a far greater range of things covered in verse B, while verse A only has standard IM2. In line with our standards, character A wouldn't be able to copy all of B's abilities, granted they would be able to copy mostly everything that isn't a plot hax

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

I'd say they'd probably be able to, though I'm more generous than the wiki's standards.

If it's the same template (information), it'll at least try.