Pokemon Small Revisions [Leon]

[King_Clab]

Nothing too big, but I think changing the wording on some pages would improve understanding.

Nothing too big, but I think changing the wording on some pages would improve understanding. I have two small changes.

For Leon, I agree with him being low 1-C, but not the explanations feel wack, and there is a way better way to scale Leon.
The current version for his AP is:
[Low Complex Multiverse level (As the strongest trainer in the Galar region, his team should be significantly stronger than the rental Pokémon that can fight Dynamaxed versions of Dialga, Palkia and Giratina]
It should be changed to:
Low Complex Multiverse level (Fought evenly with Ash, who defeated Cynthia in the Masters Tournament Semifinals whose Garchomp could cancel out Palkia's Spacial Rend.)

The current one feels like it’s using game mechanics over actual scaling in my opinion.

Next up is Nihilego, and this one is pretty similar to Leon’s proposed revision.
Current:
High Universe level (Lusaminecould use its power to fight Dawn Wings Necrozmawho is said to expell energy infinitely. Along with the other Ultra Beasts, it threatened Alola to the point where 50% Zygarde saw fit to leave Kalos and come to Alola)
Proposed revision:
High Universe level (Could take a hit from what was seemingly a super-effective blast from Dawn-Wings Necrozma which posseses infinite energy that it can expell with its attacks on a constant basis. Threatened Alola along with the other Ultra Beasts to the point that Zygard saw fit to leave Kalos and face it.)

 

[King_Clab]

Bump

 

[Arceus0x]

No for Leon, his anime and game part are scaled separately

No for Nihilego also, I don't see how you improved the description at all bro

 

[GrayCraft_Dragon]

will wait for other opinions. Following

 

[King_Clab]

No for Leon, his anime and game part are scaled separately

Ahhh, that makes more sense

No for Nihilego also, I don't see how you improved the description at all bro

I don’t feel like we should use a one-shot for scaling, considering we have better ways for scaling them.
Either way the current description itself could definitely be improved though.

 

[King_Clab]

No for Nihilego also, I don't see how you improved the description at all bro

Would this be better?
High Universe level (Comparable to Buzzwole, who can fight Tapu Koko. Along with the other Ultra Beasts, it threatened Alola to the point where 50% Zygarde saw fit to leave Kalos and come to Alola.)

 

[Arceus0x]

I don’t feel like we should use a one-shot for scaling, considering we have better ways for scaling them.
Either way the current description itself could definitely be improved though.

Would this be better?
High Universe level (Comparable to Buzzwole, who can fight Tapu Koko. Along with the other Ultra Beasts, it threatened Alola to the point where 50% Zygarde saw fit to leave Kalos and come to Alola.)

No, it wasn't a one-shot, she took what seems to be a super-effective attack to the face and was still standing, though it would've gone down after the next hit.

 

[RaikiKurohane99]

Following. I'll wait for more input from supporters

 

[King_Clab]

No, it wasn't a one-shot, she took what seems to be a super-effective attack to the face and was still standing, though it would've gone down after the next hit.

After looking at the manga again, it wasn’t a one-shot, but it was two-shot, my point still stands.

Nihilego-fused Lusamine alongside two other Ultra Beasts (Two Naganadel) fight Dawn Wings Necrozma. After the two Nagandal get defeated by Necrozma, it turns into a 1v1 with Nihilego-fused Lusamine and Necrozma.

Nihilego-fused Lusamine basically got stomped as soon as it turned into a 1v1. After getting hit once, it’s implied Lusamine would be knocked out or be severely injuried after another attack by Necrozma.

https://************/read/pokemon-special-sun-moonn.1np0w/en/chapter-31

Next time we see Lusamine after this, she is in a barely conscious state.

https://************/read/pokemon-special-sun-moonn.1np0w/en/chapter-32

Nihilego shouldn’t directly to Dawn Wings Necrozma.
I see Nihilego scaling to the Tapu’s, but considering how little she did to Dawn Wings, she shouldn’t be directly scaled to it.

 

[King_Clab]

After looking at the manga again, it wasn’t a one-shot, but it was two-shot, my point still stands.

Nihilego-fused Lusamine alongside two other Ultra Beasts (Two Naganadel) fight Dawn Wings Necrozma. After the two Nagandal get defeated by Necrozma, it turns into a 1v1 with Nihilego-fused Lusamine and Necrozma.

Nihilego-fused Lusamine basically got stomped as soon as it turned into a 1v1. After getting hit once, it’s implied Lusamine would be knocked out or be severely injuried after another attack by Necrozma.


Next time we see Lusamine after this, she is in a barely conscious state.


Nihilego shouldn’t directly to Dawn Wings Necrozma.
I see Nihilego scaling to the Tapu’s, but considering how little she did to Dawn Wings, she shouldn’t be directly scaled to it.

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[Arceus0x]

After looking at the manga again, it wasn’t a one-shot, but it was two-shot, my point still stands.

Nihilego-fused Lusamine alongside two other Ultra Beasts (Two Naganadel) fight Dawn Wings Necrozma. After the two Nagandal get defeated by Necrozma, it turns into a 1v1 with Nihilego-fused Lusamine and Necrozma.

Nihilego-fused Lusamine basically got stomped as soon as it turned into a 1v1. After getting hit once, it’s implied Lusamine would be knocked out or be severely injuried after another attack by Necrozma.

https://************/read/pokemon-special-sun-moonn.1np0w/en/chapter-31

Next time we see Lusamine after this, she is in a barely conscious state.

https://************/read/pokemon-special-sun-moonn.1np0w/en/chapter-32

Nihilego shouldn’t directly to Dawn Wings Necrozma.
I see Nihilego scaling to the Tapu’s, but considering how little she did to Dawn Wings, she shouldn’t be directly scaled to it.

Nihilego doesn't directly scale, she'd downscale notably. It's simple as that.

 

[King_Clab]

Nihilego doesn't directly scale, she'd downscale notably. It's simple as that.

The current wording directly ties Nihilego to Dawn Wings Necrozma, which is a bad wording.

It would be more appropriate to use another Ultra Beast or Tapu Koko as an example, considering Base Necrozma is shown in all continuities to be above the rest of Alola’s Pokemon (Basically every Pokemon in High 3-A). Dawn Wings scales above Base Necozma.
Either way, she still downscales, but the current language makes Nihelgo sound on par with Dawn Wings Necrozma.

 

[Arceus0x]

The current wording directly ties Nihilego to Dawn Wings Necrozma, which is a bad wording.

It would be more appropriate to use another Ultra Beast or Tapu Koko as an example, considering Base Necrozma is shown in all continuities to be above the rest of Alola’s Pokemon (Basically every Pokemon in High 3-A). Dawn Wings scales above Base Necozma.
Either way, she still downscales, but the current language makes Nihelgo sound on par with Dawn Wings Necrozma.

Then make it something like
(Could take a hit from what was seemingly a super-effective blast from Dawn-Wings Necrozma which posseses infinite energy that it can expell with its attacks on a constant basis. Threatened Alola along with the other Ultra Beasts to the point that Zygarde saw fit to leave Kalos and face it.)

 

[King_Clab]

Then make it something like
(Could take a hit from what was seemingly a super-effective blast from Dawn-Wings Necrozma which posseses infinite energy that it can expell with its attacks on a constant basis. Threatened Alola along with the other Ultra Beasts to the point that Zygarde saw fit to leave Kalos and face it.)

Yeah, this makes more sense. It would be better than the current description
Imma add this to the thread

 

[King_Clab]

Bump

 

[King_Clab]

Bump

 

[AyOgUyS]

This seems straightforward.

 

[Hypertornado099]

The Leon page is for the games continuity, not anime. Although they are accepted as having a shared worldview, the events of the anime and games are very different, which can lead to trainer owned Pokemon having different amounts of training in different continuities, and different movesets. He doesn't even have the same Pokemon in the anime- he's missing Rhyperior, Aegislash, Seismitoad and Haxorus

 

[RaikiKurohane99]

Nihilego's improvement seems fine to me. Disagree with Leon's new justification based on reasons above.