[Re:Zero] Unspecific Arc 9 Additions

[Zabazab]

A variety of additions to Re:Zero, mainly from Arc 9 "Light of a Nameless Star".

Statistics
Minor verse-wide Lifting Strength Upgrade

Everyone who is currently Class K will be pushed further into Class K (480 tonnes) by this feat performed by Rem.

Some More 6-B Characters

Wilhelm should be 6-B with awakened power, as he matched Alter and may have defeated him, despite Alter casually one-shotting Ezzo & Garfiel with his breath earlier.

Theresia scales to Wilhelm's awakened power.

Heinkel should have up to 6-B durability scaling to Alter, for reasons already in his justification:

Heinkel not only survived an unrestrained blow from the Divine Dragon, he remained conscious for several seconds after. Even after being pierced with the light of the Star Staff, a meteor that could silence a Dragon, Heinkel only passed out while writhing in agony, receiving no serious injuries. Heinkel could still walk and fight after having half of his body scorched by the aftermath of Dragon's breath.

Abilities

General​

For all Flow Method users (basically every warrior):

Regeneration (Low; Having excellent control over the Flow Method greatly contributes to the recovery of wounds and physical strength)

For everyone who is >= Prime Wilhelm's skill, which would be Theresia, Kurgan, Cecilus, Halibel, Reid, Reinhard, and I think Eugard too:

Analytical Prediction (From the outset of his battle with the Crimson Sakura, Wilhelm accurately predicted that he would reap the shinobi's life in four moves, with her only surviving the final slash because of a hidden pit under the floor she had prepared in advance)

For everyone with superhuman intuition, which is actually a lot of characters. Emilia, Cecilus, Halibel, Reid, and Reinhard are 100% qualified, but I want a consensus from fellow supporters on who else it should apply to:

Fate Manipulation (Several individuals, through their intuition, consistently select the "correct answer" in various situations as they are loved by fate itself. Fate is a law of the world used by the Observers, supernatural existences that are beyond the framework, to manipulate every event at will. To the Observers, the world is nothing more than a puppet show of fixed events and predestined fate.

Reinhard​

For Reinhard's Divine Protection of the Phoenix:

Teleportation (The secondary effect of the Divine Protection of the Phoenix allows the user to resurrect at any location they desire)

And some bonus justifications for abilities he already has:

• Enhanced Senses (It is a fact that Reinhard can likely distinguish the sound of a needle dropping from a kilometer away)
• Extrasensory Perception (Reinhard could immediately pinpoint every presence on a battlefield with poor visibility, and instantly decide the order of who to deal with first)

Dragon Sword Reid​

All Dragon Sword wielders will gain:

Durability Negation (The Dragon Sword Reid is an Enchanted Sword able to cut that which cannot be cut, allowing its wielder to easily ignore both physical and magical defenses, targeting weak points directly. The Dragon Sword Reid can destroy the seal of Ol Shamak, which otherwise cannot be destroyed by any means other than an Authority or the will of the one who casted the seal)

The legitimacy of the Dragon Sword's Invulnerability has been called into question by the new standards for the ability:

Invulnerability (The Dragon Sword Reid is indestructible, and would not be destroyed even if the world's ruin came. The blade and sheath can defend against the durability-bypassing attacks of Regulus Corneas)

If this is not enough for invulnerability, then all Dragon Sword users will instead get High 3-A durability with the Dragon Sword Reid, as it cannot be destroyed by a singularity of mass.

Heinkel​

Heinkel should get these resistances:

Resistance to Disease Manipulation, Corrosion Inducement, Mind Manipulation, Status Effect Inducement, & Poison Manipulation (Heinkel survived after he was plunged into the befoulment of the Black Serpent of Elder's Blight)

I realized these resistances seem random since the Black Serpent has no page yet, so these are the justifications for the abilities Heinkel resists:

• Poison Manipulation (The Black Serpent possesses potent toxicity, its venom is a semi-sentient black sludge that seeks to consume and destroy everything)
• Disease Manipulation (The Black Serpent is the Witchbeast of Pestilence, its true nature being a festering den of pathology, pestilence, and plague innumerable, an endless helix of lesions, disease, and blight that coincidentally forms a serpentine shape. It is able to infect anything it touches with a hundred plagues. Each of the serpent's heads is in charge of a different different kind of blight)
• Corrosion Inducement (It can make living things rot away and fall apart with a mere touch. A single drop of the serpent's black pus can make anything rot and wither away with nary a sound)
• Mind Manipulation & Status Effect Inducement (The Black Serpent head charged with representing Elder's Blight can occlude the thinking and mobility of those it befouls, restraining them at the precipice of mortality in perpetuum, offering them no refuge in the unceasing anguish and darkness)

That should be it. Stuff will get more character-specific later down the line. If there's any minor stuff I missed, or got wrong, do tell me.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Recovery stuff from the flow method also has stuff about insane stamina and that they can rejuvinate stamina. The shinobi quotes about 1 month of traveling with no food and a drop of water or smth also add onto this as credibility

 

[VortechsTG]

Everything looks good here. For the fate manipulation, the others that come to mind are Ram, Priscilla, Todd, and possibly Grimm. For Stamina, well, the Shinobi are beyond the norm, but the flow method should grant at least athletic stamina.

 

[Trxyway]

Following

 

[Dalesean027]

These are fine

 

[VortechsTG]

Remembered Gaston should also get acrobatics

 

[Zabazab]

Gaston needs like all his stats changed, arc 9 makes it clear he's an actually relevant fighter instead of just vaguely >Rom

 

[VortechsTG]

Gaston needs like all his stats changed, arc 9 makes it clear he's an actually relevant fighter instead of just vaguely >Rom

True, but at the same time he's still well below someone like Frederica or Crusch. I'm not sure what better feats he'd actually scale to.

 

[Zabazab]

Even they need some changes (Rem revamp is Quite Ready). Patrasche should also probably scale to Fred tiers given she killed Guiltylowe w/Fred's help, and bit off Hungry Horse King's arm.

 

[Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh]

Seems fine to me

 

[Trxyway]

Bump

 

[MrTayman616]

For everyone with superhuman intuition, which is actually a lot of characters. Emilia, Cecilus, Halibel, Reid, and Reinhard are 100% qualified, but I want a consensus from fellow supporters on who else it should apply to:

I don't think this alone is enough for fate manipulation. It can mean several things here, especially in Re:Zero's story and based on Aldebaran's character.

Heinkel should have up to 6-B durability scaling to Alter, for reasons already in his justification:

This is fine ig. Though i'm kinda worried that some might try to scale those who can injure him to this rating.

We shouldn't scale those who can damage him to this level. Heinkel has insane endurance, but not like he doesn't get hurt from attacks way below this level. It is heavily inconsistent in that regard imo.

Or maybe we shouldn't erase his current durability rating but still add 6-B in a different way? Like Aldebaran's AP ratings in your thread maybe.

If this is not enough for invulnerability, then all Dragon Sword users will instead get High 3-A durability with the Dragon Sword Reid, as it cannot be destroyed by a singularity of mass.

This would just give the sword resistance to Gravity and Spatial manipulation rather than durability.

I think invulnerability is fine though.

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Everything else seems fine.

 

[Trxyway]

This would just give the sword resistance to Gravity and Spatial manipulation rather than durability.

Since the text attributes its survival to its physical 'strength' and 'indestructible' nature rather than a specific resistance to anything really, wouldn't it be more accurate to view this as the sword simply outscaling the destructive potency of the singularity?

 

[Zabazab]

Though i'm kinda worried that some might try to scale those who can injure him to this rating.

Weaknesses: Heinkel lacks confidence in his own abilities, to the degree that he generally becomes useless when facing opponents with a notable degree of power, unless he's inebriated. Although his physical toughness is supreme, he has frequently been incapacitated by blows far below what is needed to pose a threat to his life.

Also not sure if you've seen the untranslated Arc 10 chapters but Filóre claimed that Heinkel became an immortal knight after surviving the Dragon's Blood.

 

[MrTayman616]

Oh, it's already in his page, ok :d

Also not sure if you've seen the untranslated Arc 10 chapters but ---

I always read the chapters the moment they are released :d

 

[ZeSteRxD]

agreed with op on everything.
But I think High-3A for sword would be more fine then giving it invulnerability.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

I personally think the sword being described as the holiest of swords and the other swords having multiple haxes are a testament to the fact that it IS actually invulnerable

 

[Zabazab]

tremendous bump

 

[VortechsTG]

For the fate manipulation, the others that come to mind are Ram, Priscilla, Todd, and possibly Grimm.

What do we think about the full selection of fate manip users?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Statistics​

Agree

Abilities​

Mostly fine, but just a couple things

Regeneration (Low)

Not sure if everyone should have it, Flam and her sister have been trained in it since there were children and from memory are said to have mastered it, meanwhile Heinkel never did, so it's a question of who exactly has mastered the Flow Method. At the very least nobody equal to or below Heinkel should scale, which would still give to the majority of people.

Fate Manipulation​

For non-Re Zero reader this statement on its own might not be enough, should probably mention the stuff about The Observers, who are manipulating fate. We know there are certain outcomes they want to see, so basically characters like Emilia or Cecilus are just pawns being used on a board to get their desired outcome, and this takes the form of them for example knowing things they aren't suppose to like Emilia finding where Sphinx was, and stopping her just before it was over for everyone.

So in short yes I do agree with fate manipulation, but I also think they should get Blessed, because a higher power, The Observers, are the ones giving them the correct answers.

But yea, you probably need to add some more scans to the op.

Reid Invulnerability​

Ignoring the black hole stuff, since you would have to down the rabbit hole of proving the singularities are real, and infinite, to me Reid still qualifies because its made clear nothing can destroy it, and even rule bending/concept destroying abilities like authorities can't achieve it either.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

OP looks just fine.

 

[Zabazab]

For non-Re Zero reader this statement on its own might not be enough, should probably mention the stuff about The Observers, who are manipulating fate.

Expanded on the justification, how's it now?

Also, should it apply to these guys?

For the fate manipulation, the others that come to mind are Ram, Priscilla, Todd, and possibly Grimm.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Yea, its fine with me.

 

[Zabazab]

I think that's everything applied now.