Simple Goku (Dragon Ball) Power Pole durability update

[YuseiDragon1]

Simple enough.
During Dragon Ball DAIMA, several 4-B opponents hit his power pole, such as the tamagamis and the giants and it does not break and its not considered to have been "enhanced" by anyone between original dragon ball and Daima.

In any profile that should go into Daima, he should have his power pole's durabilty to "At least 4B with the Power Pole", exactly like how Captain America gets a different durability stat with his shield.



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[BiggestOpp]

Dragon ball characters can enhance weapons with ki.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Do you have any canonical example of a character enhancing the properties of their weapons using Ki? People always make the claim, but they use the same examples (Future Trunks, uhhhhhh, Future Trunks) without providing any additional evidence.

 

[BiggestOpp]

Hmm I’ll admit it’s been years since I’ve read dragon ball so I can’t name a specific instance where it’s mentioned. I just assumed it was true because over the years that’s just been the general consensus among people but if that idea hasn’t been implemented here it probably isn’t true.

 

[YuseiDragon1]

So yeah, its pretty clear that the power pole is 4-B and has always been ever since Dragon Ball.
No one, even enemies stronger than Goku at a time have ever broken it.

 

[RedReaper616]

Do you have any canonical example of a character enhancing the properties of their weapons using Ki? People always make the claim, but they use the same examples (Future Trunks, uhhhhhh, Future Trunks) without providing any additional evidence.

Yuzan (Zarbon knock-off) does this to a whole piece of a building to throw at Vegeta in Dragon Ball Super’s Manga. You could also count Beerus’ attacks with Chopsticks in Battle of Gods.

Also, obligatory, (as you mention), Future Trunks.

I also guess you can assume most telekinesis attacks that actually do damage as this if you want, too, like Piccolo’s rock attack in Superhero.

 

[AyOgUyS]

agree

 

[Random-Helper323]

Trunks' sword is the best known example of items strengthened with Ki, but Beerus' chopsticks are the most undeniable; a normal set of chopsticks which can be used to harm Tier 4 characters and block hits from them.

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

Definitely agree.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Yuzan (Zarbon knock-off) does this to a whole piece of a building to throw at Vegeta in Dragon Ball Super’s Manga.

Yes, and the narratively openly acknowledges Yuzun reinforcing the building with his Ki, creating an aura around the building.

Trunks' sword is the best known example of items strengthened with Ki

Except, not once is Trunks's sword ever stated or even implied to be reinforced by his Ki by official sources. The narrative openly acknowledges how refined and sharp the sword itself is through King Cold, which Daizenshuu 7 explicitly confirms.

I also guess you can assume most telekinesis attacks that actually do damage as this if you want, too, like Piccolo’s rock attack in Superhero.

Different principles. Telekinesis controls matter.

 

[Random-Helper323]

There's also clothes, which always seem to match the durability of whoever wears them.

 

[RedReaper616]

Yes, and the narratively openly acknowledges Yuzun reinforcing the building with his Ki, creating an aura around the building.

I’m taking this as agreement, then…?

Except, not once is Trunks's sword ever stated or even implied to be reinforced by his Ki by official sources. The narrative openly acknowledges how refined and sharp the sword itself is through King Cold, which Daizenshuu 7 explicitly confirms.

It could be just an assumption made due to the inventions of the Anime. In the Anime, Trunks is a lot more arrogant about King Cold’s assumption, smirking as if he knows the assumption itself by nature is wrong, whereas in the Manga he’s blasé and just reacts nonchalantly to him. Additionally, in the Manga he neutrally reiterates his “miscalculation” line. “Just another miscalculation on your part.”

But in the Anime, he directly says, “Apparently, that’s not ALL you need.” Alluding to the fact this idea simply is untrue, and that something Trunks is doing himself is what matters/is needed in CONJUNCTION with the sword.

The natural assumption becomes he means Ki (which makes sense because the Force explicitly lack any real level of Ki Control beyond flight and energy blasts), which spreads culturally.

Different principles. Telekinesis controls matter.

Telekinesis controls matter, sure (though I’d argue assuming the “level” and “principle” can’t be done as the properties of telekinesis change per work), but it using your mind to grab and throw ordinary rocks does not give it the power to damage someone with say, star level durability. Either the person is empowering the object with their energy, or their energy has the power to maintain physical integrity whilst being applied for incredibly high speed movement that CAN damage that for (which is just a different way of empowering a physical object with energy).

 

[Random-Helper323]

Beerus has Tier 4+ wooden chopsticks and Goku famously has Tier 4+ pants, it seems pretty clear cut that they enhance objects with Ki.

 

[YuseiDragon1]

At least 4-B with the Power Pole seems fine with me. There has never been any indication its durability was increased at any point from start of dragon ball to Daima.