Sukuna vs The Great Rabbit

[Arkansalter2]

until they lose interest and self-BFR.

He can't do that. As per SBA, you can't just "lose interest" and just run away.

Characters will not give up of their own accord. That means a character that is uninterested or sees no chance of winning won't simply leave and characters wouldn't simply become friends with each other. This doesn't prevent a character being made to give up, because the other character manipulates them via things like, for example, mind control, fear inducement, psychological tricks or superhuman charisma.

 

[VortechsTG]

He can't do that. As per SBA, you can't just "lose interest" and just run away.

They aren't people, or really even animals. They are a physical manifestation of hunger that does nothing but eat. If it cannot eat it will leave and find something it can. Changing that means you just aren't pitting him against the great rabbit And it would mean he has no clear win-con, automatically making the battle invonclusive, if not a stomp in favor of the rabbits.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Sukuna can just destroy the rabbits beyond their ability to duplicate. What's their best duplication feat destruction-wise?

 

[Arkansalter2]

They aren't people, or really even animals. They are a physical manifestation of hunger that does nothing but eat. If it cannot eat it will leave and find something it can

Again, according to SBA, they can't just "leave" if they lose interest. However, as a weakness, the rabbits will eat each other. So thats a plausible wincon if the rabbits can't get close.

 

[VortechsTG]

Sukuna can just destroy the rabbits beyond their ability to duplicate. What's their best duplication feat destruction-wise?

Everything Roswaal can do they can survive.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Everything Roswaal can do they can survive.

What can Roswaal do

 

[AppleMaker]

Malevolent kitchen FRA

 

[VortechsTG]

What can Roswaal do

Well, just for starters, cast five of these at once and cause the maps to have to be redrawn.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Well, just for starters, cast five of these at once and cause the maps to have to be redrawn.

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[VortechsTG]

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Idk how to help you with that because I just triple checked it on multiple devices and it seems to be working fine but this also talks about it.

 

[AThe1412]

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Massive ******* explosion that makes an entire forest disappear. Apparently 1.5 kilometers in radius according to the calculation above.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Idk how to help you with that because I just triple checked it on multiple devices and it seems to be working fine but this also talks about it.

For some reason it loaded in now. Dunno what that was about.

Does the calc assume everything was vaporized or pulverized. Cuz Sukuna can not only reduce everything to particles with Malevolent Shrine, he can make said particles combust and explode with Divine Flame. Which would be beyond pulverization.

 

[AThe1412]

For some reason it loaded in now. Dunno what that was about.

Does the calc assume everything was vaporized or pulverized. Cuz Sukuna can not only reduce everything to particles with Malevolent Shrine, he can make said particles combust and explode with Divine Flame. Which would be beyond pulverization.

Probably a mix of both since the nuke map calculator was used. Roswaal also has fire magic hot enough to vaporize people, ice magic that can freeze targets to absolute zero, the ability to turn others into crystals that he can shatter... Apparently none of these things could put down the rabbits and they had to be sent to another dimension.

 

[Mickey1940]

can the rabbits regen fast enough to survive malevolent shrine

 

[LaserPrecision]

Probably a mix of both since the nuke map calculator was used. Roswaal also has fire magic hot enough to vaporize people, ice magic that can freeze targets to absolute zero, the ability to turn others into crystals that he can shatter... Apparently none of these things could put down the rabbits and they had to be sent to another dimension.

I dunno if the calculator is indicative of vaporization, I think that depends on the aftermath we see from the attack. But the rest is fair

 

[Arkansalter2]

can the rabbits regen fast enough to survive malevolent shrine

Absolutely not. They have 10-C durability.

 

[VortechsTG]

Absolutely not. They have 10-C durability.

That has absolutely nothing to do with their regeneration They "have 10-C durability" and yet they can survive 6-C attacks.

 

[Arkansalter2]

That has absolutely nothing to do with their regeneration They "have 10-C durability" and yet they can survive 6-C attacks.

If they can survive 6-C attacks, get it on the profile.

 

[Arkansalter2]

And once that's on the profile, this match should be close since they would have 6-C durability.
Pick your poison.

 

[VortechsTG]

I dunno if the calculator is indicative of vaporization, I think that depends on the aftermath we see from the attack. But the rest is fair

Regardless of what the anime visuals show, which are consistently toned down massively from the source material, Roswaal’s fire magic is greater than Arakiya's which vaporizes buildings that even just get near it.

Cheerfully responding to Al’s exclamation, Cecilus performed an outrageous act that scoffed at the very laws of physics. Running straight forward he plunged into a house that had escaped harm’s way, and in the subsequent instant, that house collapsed, and a pillar that had been kicked out of the crumbling building soared through the air like an arrow.
It was a rather girthy arrow with an incorrect size ratio, but it closed in on Arakiya with enough speed to bore through the torso of a large animal. But, before it could hit Arakiya, it spontaneously combusted, and smoldered to naught within the air.
Surrounding Arakiya as she radiated light, so much heat was being generated that it appeared as if both herself, and even the space around her were being distorted, so there was no way any half-hearted attack could have drawn near her.
Even Cecilus ought to have understood that. And yet――
Cecilus: “Go! Go go! Go go go!!”
Inducing a thunderous sound, Cecilus destroyed buildings one after the other, and, kicking the pillars, rooftops, and household belongings of the destroyed buildings flying at speeds unperceivable to the eye, he made an incessant onslaught on the airborne Arakiya.
Of course, it was not a matter of which would reach her, as all of them vanished in the air before they had the chance.
– Arc 8 Chapter 43

And he can produce absolute zero ice magic, use magic that stops the time of a target, etc.

 

[VortechsTG]

And once that's on the profile, this match should be close since they would have 6-C durability.
Pick your poison.

They don't have 6-C durability. They survive 6-C attacks by regenerating.

 

[Arkansalter2]

They don't have 6-C durability. They survive 6-C attacks by regenerating.

Regeneration is not anywhere on the profile.

 

[VortechsTG]

Regeneration is not anywhere on the profile.

When the profile was created they opted to index it as duplication. This does give a better idea of what its regeneration looks like. Individually, the rabbits don't regenerate. They are replaced. However, since the great rabbit is technically one entity it is a form of regeneration as well.

 

[Arkansalter2]

So how would they regenerate from getting shrined again?

 

[VortechsTG]

So how would they regenerate from getting shrined again?

Because its regeneration can outpace instantly vaporized all at once.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Scan?

 

[VortechsTG]

Read the damn thread.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Yeah you're gonna have to get said regeneration on the profile. The Rabbit profile from your listings is missing something. From your logic, they should have somewhere in high regen.
Until then, going with Sukuna.

 

[TheRustyOne]

So how would they regenerate from getting shrined again?

Going by what is being said here, the rabbit will duplicate itself. It's not technically regeneration as any rabbit that is destroyed remains destroyed.

However, the damage Sukuna inflicts on the rabbits doesn't stop it from duplicating. Roswaal, who can vaporize them and do even more, cannot kill them.

They're just saying regeneration because it's easier to say, and isn't fully wrong since the Great Rabbit is technically a singular entity.

Vaporizing the rabbits don't stop them from duplicating. You'd either have to seal them away or erase them from physical existence.

Read the damn thread.

Is that what you mean? Tell me if I'm way off base. I don't know much about Re:Zero, but I'm going off what is being said here.

 

[Arkansalter2]

You'd either have to seal them away or erase them from physical existence.

So it's a stomp since Sukuna can't do that.

 

[VortechsTG]

Is that what you mean? Tell me if I'm way off base. I don't know much about Re:Zero, but I'm going off what is being said here.

Yeah, that is correct. The author even outright says "I really didn’t think of any way to win besides Al Shamac" i.e. sealing them away in another dimension, so what you've said about the only ways to beat it hits the nail right on the head.

 

[Arkansalter2]

So this is a stomp since the only way to get rid of them is to seal them.
Getting this closed.

 

[VortechsTG]

So it's a stomp since Sukuna can't do that.

In my opinion, since they can't run away, yes. He can definitely hold them off for a while, but not forever.

 

[Arkansalter2]

In my opinion, since they can't run away, yes. He can definitely hold them off for a while, but not forever.

Sukuna literally can't kill them since they'll duplicate every time he tries. This is a stomp.

 

[Mickey1940]

Absolutely not. They have 10-C durability.

?????

the rabbits multiply endlessly and instantly

their durability has nothing to do with it

 

[Mickey1940]

Sukuna literally can't kill them since they'll duplicate every time he tries. This is a stomp.

not necessarily

if the rabbits all stand in Malevolent Shrine then all of them would get atomized

1 rabbit needs to survive in order for the rabbit to multiply

if Sukuna can open his domain and catch all of them in it, he wins

 

[Arkansalter2]

not necessarily

if the rabbits all stand in Malevolent Shrine then all of them would get atomized

1 rabbit needs to survive in order for the rabbit to multiply

if Sukuna can open his domain and catch all of them in it, he wins

The author even outright says "I really didn’t think of any way to win besides Al Shamac" i.e. sealing them away in another dimension, so what you've said about the only ways to beat it hits the nail right on the head.

By his logic, they're unkillable.