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suspiciously man-shaped shadow (The Sentry vs. The Spot) (3-4-0)

eject Tier 6 shockwaves from their body like Sentry can
Realistically, his shockwaves are not that powerful. He's only High 6-A because he tore off bucky's vibranium arm, otherwise, he'd likely be somewhere in tier 8. The best his shockwaves been shown to do was to knock back the thunder bolts who are 9-A and 8-C but thats about it.
 
Realistically, his shockwaves are not that powerful. He's only High 6-A because he tore off bucky's vibranium arm, otherwise, he'd likely be somewhere in tier 8. The best his shockwaves been shown to do was to knock back the thunder bolts who are 9-A and 8-C but thats about it.
I figured that was because he was holding back. Literally in the same fight he also throws and punches people, but they don't splatter into blood stains on the ground. So why would he use a High 6-A shockwave on them if he didn't use High 6-A physicals on them?
 
Because his only High 6-A feat comes from ripping off bucky's vibranium arm.

His profile is duu duu but it's a load of unusual wank from one feat.
Does it not also come from being stated to be stronger than all the Avengers rolled into one? I don't see the problem here.
 
I don't think I understand the problem 😭

Do you think Sentry should only be Tier 8?
Maybe, maybe not. But since Sentry did a vibranium break feat and thats treated as High 6-A by VSBW standards (due to cap shield shenanigans), I'm not gonna waste my time crying in a CRT. He may have a possibly on his High 6-A due to that one feat but I can't be arsed.
 
The best he did was heat up a gun in someones hand and superheat someones metal arm.
Do you…not know what Bucky’s arm is made of? It’s Vibranium. You know, that metal that’s so hard to break that it tanks lightning level heat (50000 degrees, btw)? His heat vision is more than enough to fry him.
He's not a murderer.
Ehhhh it’s arguable. He looked pretty ready to kill what’s her face when he suspected she was just using him, so much so that she killed him. The only other people we’ve seen him fight are people he was actively holding back against (Thunderbolts).

Then again, this is pretty much irrelevant, as The Spit looked nothing like a human in this form, and is actively trying to kill him while being annoying to actually land a hit on. I doubt it’d take him long to resort to it if nothing else is working (not saying it wouldn’t, just on the off chance).
 
Then again, this is pretty much irrelevant, as The Spit looked nothing like a human in this form, and is actively trying to kill him while being annoying to actually land a hit on. I doubt it’d take him long to resort to it if nothing else is working (not saying it wouldn’t, just on the off chance)
He wouldn't really try to actively boil a "human" or any living being per chance. He never did so.
 
He wouldn't really try to actively boil a "human" or any living being per chance. He never did so.
Sentry never doing so doesn’t mean he won’t, especially if he’s in the mindset to kill as stated in SBA. And again, Spot doesn’t look anything like a human anymore; at best, to Sentry he’s some violent bipedal alien trying to kill him, which I highly doubt he’s going to care enough about to hold back at all.
 
NLF to assume that.
Literally how??? You’ve used this s lot in the thread, and I’m starting to think you genuinely don’t know what it means. How does “This character has only shown restraint to human characters that are his friends, and probably wouldn’t care about the alien rando trying to kill him” correlate to me saying something can work on something else without a limit?
 
Literally how??? You’ve used this s lot in the thread, and I’m starting to think you genuinely don’t know what it means. How does “This character has only shown restraint to human characters that are his friends, and probably wouldn’t care about the alien rando trying to kill him” correlate to me saying something can work on something else without a limit?
Not NLF but it's OOC. He wouldn't boil someone because he legit hasn't shown to do that to anybody living.
 
He wouldn't boil someone because he legit hasn't shown to do that to anybody living.
He's only ever fought against people that he has a reason to not want to kill immediately. Sure, it's not going to be his first resort, but I don't think it's out of the question that he would do it to someone he has no reason to hold back against. This is more so just another potential win con of his besides the others listed in the thread, so it's not really a deal breaker.
 
Both in-character and equal speed?
  • Spot's strongest hax abilities are portal creation/dimensional travel (which acts as BFR and attack reflection, durability negation (cutting through objects), teleportation and genius intelligence. He fought Miles, Mumbattan Spidey, Spider-Punk and Gwen, who are all far superior in strength and abilities compared to the Thunderbolts. He's also got resistance to Matter Manipulation on an atomic level, so Sentry's 'likely MM' won't do that much here.
  • Sentry has enhanced senses against nearby activity, martial arts, shockwaves (which is tens of meters), afterimages (good for misleading opponents), telekinesis (he can use this to throw nearby objects, but it'll be useless with his Class 100 LS), heat manipulation and nigh-invulnerability.
1. In character, Spot is rather conservative with his dark matter usage to create portals. Since MCU's Earth doesn't have any colliders (or many sources of dark matter), he'll be held back on using portals. Given his pre-Super Collider personality, he was rather chill with Miles (for instance, let him talk on the phone with his dad), but he didn't seem concerned with damaging Mumbattan, so I wouldn't be surprised if he just leads off with trying to put Sentry in some random universe.

2. In character, Sentry uses telekinesis to reflect attacks back, grapple opponents or freeze them. If that doesn't work, he uses heat manipulation + physical strength. Personality-wise, he doesn't like killing his opponents and goes easy on them; for example, he only had just met Red Guardian and Bucky at the WatchTower, but still didn't listen to Valentina's orders to "finish them off". He is willing to knock people out (like he did to Bucky). I'd say his biggest combat weakness is letting people get their attacks on him, since he's confident in his invincibility (dammit Valentina...)

Sentry has a problem of not using his full power (because he really held back 200 million times lower than his normal AP to fight the Thunderbolts), and even though The Spot doesn't look human, that won't change much. Likewise, The Spot doesn't show the personality of personally wanting to execute people who haven't wronged him; he's just unaware of the damage he causes.

Anyway, The Spot is a lot smarter than Sentry, and was able to force Miles into multiple portals throughout their first fight. Sentry does have awareness-based ES, so he counters oncoming physical attacks, but I don't see him anticipating close-ranged portals.

I'm giving it to The Spot Extreme-Diff. He can bait Sentry into a random portal to an unknown universe (given his 5-D range), and it'll be so much easier thanks to equal speed. Spot is outmatched in AP but he's significantly smarter, has better win-con hax's (portals, dimensional travel, BFR), attack reflection (to reflect physical strikes) and teleportation (which gives him time to strategize.)

This is a VERY CLOSE match. Great one OP.
 
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