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Reiatsu Crush gg?
That should be noted on the profileZenon doesn’t have a soul
That should be noted on the profile
Reiatsu still has stuff like fear manip and paralysis which i'm not seeing resistances towards, so Reiatsu should still be a huge factor here, if not just an instant GG.
What does Zenon do? What's his AP value?
Ulq's fear manip layers scale to his soul manip layers, so i'll need reason to think that they're on the sam level.Resists fear aura from those far stronger than he is (from the devil that attacked his country)
Wrong. Check Aizen soul crushing grimmjow.paralysis seems like it’s based on being so scared you go into a state of shock and freeze.
Oh and btw aura stuff asides soul crush only works if the other character can sense it. So no point responding to all of the above.
Why would soul crush be limited to ones who can sense it?Oh and btw aura stuff asides soul crush only works if the other character can sense it. So no point responding to all of the above.
Ulq's fear manip layers scale to his soul manip layers, so i'll need reason to think that they're on the sam level.
Also not on profile .
Wrong. Check Aizen soul crushing grimmjow.
Also not on profile .
Lol didn’t humans only get their soul crushed but weren’t going crazy over Aizen’s power?
1. They're subsets of Soul Manip. That's why it would scale off the layers.Why does it scale to his soul manip layers? Unless you’re saying it’s soul based.
Idk give me a chapter or something? What am i supposed to find there aside Grimmjow getting his soul literally crushed. I wonder how that would prove paralysis isn’t fear based unless you’re saying it’s soul based. Are you saying it’s soul based paralysis?
Resistance to Aura? (Can resist those with more overwhelming aura than himself). Should I index it that way?
Besides doesn’t matter if Zenon can’t sense Ulquiorra’s reiatsu and if energy is equalized then Zenon wouldn’t be bothered by it since he’s far stronger himself.
Edit: unless you say it’s soul based fear aura then… Zenon is immune it it.
Lol didn’t humans only get their soul crushed but weren’t going crazy over Aizen’s power?
Doesn't that mean said effects only works because it affects the soul?1. They're subsets of Soul Manip. That's why they would scale off it.
Can you rephrase what you said? I didn't catch that.Doesn't that mean said effects only works because it affects the soul?
1. They're subsets of Soul Manip. That's why it would scale off the layers.
Aizen just wanted Grimmjow to go back to his seat. In chapter 618, Aizen also warned the Muken Guards that if they were to go near him, they would be EE'd. So that argument you just made is completely invalid.
Does Zenon's aura induce anything?
If you're implying Zenon can't sense his reiatsu then Zenon can't harm him, simple as that
My fault if that one went out differently--their Reiatsu effects are linked to their Soul Manip.Won’t work cuz Zenon doesn’t have a soul. It’s with his devil, Belzeebub.
-> "Lol didn’t humans only get their soul crushed but weren’t going crazy over Aizen’s power?"I made an argument against Ulq not Aizen
Pretty sure the layers of Soul Manip would be able to handle thatFear and madness on weaker beings who sense it. Supernatural Willpower or being relative negs this.
Actually I forgot that my argument was kinda shit, so you can disregard thatwhy?
My fault if that one went out differently--their Reiatsu effects are linked to their Soul Manip.
Wouldn't matter cause the Mind Body and Soul are linked. Even if Zenon doesn't have a soul, his layers of Mind Manip negs
-> "Lol didn’t humans only get their soul crushed but weren’t going crazy over Aizen’s power?"
Pretty sure the layers of Soul Manip would be able to handle that
Ok.Actually I forgot that my argument was kinda shit, so you can disregard that
You actually don’t need to be able to sense it to be affected. It’s why Aizen was erasing things and people who aren’t spiritually aware despite being transcendent to people who are during Deicide.Oh and btw aura stuff asides soul crush only works if the other character can sense it. So no point responding to all of the above.
Just correcting this, don’t care about the match up.
You actually don’t need to be able to sense it to be affected. It’s why Aizen was erasing things and people who aren’t spiritually aware despite being transcendent to people who are during Deicide.
The erasure is just an effect from his transcendent reiatsu so it kinda falls under the same category. The goober kinda didn’t suffer any of the other effects since Aizen was restraining his reiatsu to around himself at the time to **** with Ichigo’s friends. The moment he was in range, half his body got erased (whole body in the anime) and Aizen moved on with his day without giving af.I assume the erasure isn’t soul crush but my point is those people who aren’t spiritually aware aren’t affected by things that require spiritual awareness. Or were they paralyzed? Were they having various ailments before getting erased? If so then no problem.
The erasure is just an effect from his transcendent reiatsu so it kinda falls under the same category. The goober kinda didn’t suffer any of the other effects since Aizen was restraining his reiatsu to around himself at the time to **** with Ichigo’s friends. The moment he was in range, half his body got erased (whole body in the anime) and Aizen moved on with his day without giving af.
Bleach characters attack the mind body and soul at once.Would you say those ailments (paralysis, fear, etc) are via Reiatsu’s effect on the soul?
Because the soul is linked to the mind and body right?Bleach characters attack the mind body and soul at once.
Shouldn't Ulquiora Lanza should scale way above his GRC as a strongest attack so it should be 10x amp ?44.35 physically, 443.5 with energy attacks
at least Multi-Continent level with Segunda Etapa (Ulquiorra effortlessly overpowers Uryu and Orihime[37], Uryu describes Ulquiorra's Segunda Etapa as unlike anything he's ever encountered[38], which would include Ulquiorra's Resurreccion Cero Oscuras, and this is consistent as now Ulquiorra can shatter Ichigo's Hollow Mask with mere physical strikes, eventually killing Ichigo[39] [44.35 Petatons]), higher with Cero Oscuras (Cero Oscuras is a 10x increase to regular Ceros [443.5 Petatons]), far higher with Strongest Attacks (Gran Rey Cero is the ultimate Cero, and Ulqiorra's Lanza del Relampago is his hardest attack to control, forcing a Full Hollow Ichigo to sharpen his claws to crush it, and even cut through that Ichigo's horn while he was off guard[40][41], it was calculated to be this strong but it scales higher via powerscaling)
His strongest attacks, sure but I was only listing the 443.5 because he spams the shit out of CO as his standard move.Shouldn't Ulquiora Lanza should scale way above his GRC as a strongest attack so it should be 10x amp ?
Yeah I know but I want to know if we can use 10x amp for Lanza because of his CO doesn't work he would switch to Lanza rightHis strongest attacks, sure but I was only listing the 443.5 because he spams the shit out of CO as his standard move.
Lanza would just be unquantifiably above since it’s > GRC > CO = 443.5, we just don’t know how much stronger.Yeah I know but I want to know if we can use 10x amp for Lanza because of his CO doesn't work he would switch to Lanza right
Yeah but difference between CO and GRC is accepted as 10x amp in the profile.Lanza would just be unquantifiably above since it’s > GRC > CO = 443.5, we just don’t know how much stronger.
No? GRC is just superior to CO, thus making it at least x10 the basic Cero, not CO.Yeah but difference between CO and GRC is accepted as 10x amp in the profile.
So Lanza should be atleast 10x amp right? That's what I meant
Yeah my bad I just realised that.No? GRC is just superior to CO, thus making it at least x10 the basic Cero, not CO.