AlbanLV
He/Him- 18
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Hi I am going to present my meta hoopa L1C Regigigas L1C TOO
( srry for my english im french ^^ )
In accordance with the baseline of our world (uni+) mentioned in the vsbw - page universe
https://imgur.com/a/O1bxy67
Backup¹
“When you first began work on Pokemon Diamond & Pokemon Pearl, what were your main goals? What do you think were the key elements to those games?”
Masuda: “I decided that ‘ultimate’ was the theme in the beginning. I set myself a task to pursue what was the ‘ultimate’ for Pokemon games, and started to act on this theme when making the games. When I asked myself what is ‘ultimate,’ I immediately knew I wanted to improve the level of communication, which is a core element of Pokemon games. In the games, players receive the Pokedex and start collecting Pokemon, which you need to do in order to trade with others. At the time of Ruby & Sapphire, people could trade their Pokemon with someone close by, but not with anyone overseas. I really wanted to do something about this. And that’s why I came up with the Global Trade Station (GTS). That’s what my goal was in the beginning — to create a user network. I want users to be able to connect to the world. That’s the ultimate style of trading for Pokemon. That was the goal. The key element was to create the storyline around the Pokemon in Sinnoh mythology. The relationship between all these Pokemon is the key element. I wanted to express the importance of the balance between substance — Dialga, the ruler of Time, and Palkia, the ruler of Space — and spirit — Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf. If the substance becomes too large, the balance of the spirit collapses. I wanted Dialga and Palkia to become counterparts for a sense of balance. Infinite time and infinite space — that to me is the ‘ultimate.'"
This interview here describes that the Pokémon universe would have infinite time and infinite space. This statement strongly supports and reinforces the previously made assertion regarding the uni+ size considered for this base universe.
Backup²: Lucian, one of the Elite Four members from Sinnoh, affirms the existence of infinite space when he reads about Sinnoh’s history in the Canalave Library:
"...Ah, hello. You’re here to read too? Books are wonderful things. The thoughts of people written in books stretch beyond time and space. I was just reading a collection of letters written by an artist long ago. Specifically, they were written to the artist’s younger brother. The stars that surround us draw us to the other side of infinite space. Feeling their gaze from so far away, I find the charm of life again. The artist must have come to a conclusion from seeing the night sky... It’s an affirmation of life. It’s very moving. I imagine we’ll see each other again at the Pokémon League. Take care of yourself."
(https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lucian).
Up to low multi:
It is explained that Palkia created parallel universes.
The base universe has been demonstrated and explained to be uni+ in size.
Parallel universes to this already quantified baseline would therefore share the same size, making them uni+ as well.
With this, we can already affirm that the Pokéverse would be low multi.
Backup:
The different parallel universes of the Pokéverse are separated by space and time:
"Across both time and space"
If Pokémon must specifically travel through "space and time" to move between these universes, it is legitimate to affirm that these universes are separated by space and time, which is why Pokémon traverse these to move between universes.
Backup²:
In the anime, it is stated that every possibility creates a parallel universe ().
The Mirror/Reflection Cave is a special location whose content represents a number of mirrors, with each mirror constantly leading to and equating to an alternate world ().
Notes:
"World" in the context of Pokémon refers to universes, as we have already proven and explained why these "worlds" would be uni+ in size and of universal nature.
It is therefore clear that the meaning of the word "world" here is universe.
Up to low comp:
As proven and explained, the Pokémon universe possesses multiple timelines, each corresponding to a parallel universe, separated by space and time and parallel to a uni+ baseline. The presence of 2 timelines here allows us to affirm the existence of a 5th dimension, representing the distance between these 2 timelines.
As stated by vsbw, it is logical but important to note that the presence of a 5th dimension implies that the entirety of the Pokémon universe is composed of 5 dimensions, thereby granting it a low comp size as a result.
Palkia does a total reboot of the entirety of the cosmology
"Everything"
"All"
"All things"
These different terms refer to the entirety of the cosmology and indicate to us that the reboot concerns this one
This reboot being a significant affectation of this same cosmology by Palkia
https://imgur.com/a/j2HeqIG
Backup: Dialga, who is of equal strength to Palkia and who is known as his "rival" in some ways
Has a similar feat, he also having performed a total reboot of this cosmology, coming to backup and support the power of these 2 legendary beings (Pokemon Pearl - Palkia
Pokemon Diamond - Dialga)
The different adjectives and words used concerning the description of this feat, and the fact that the reboot really took place by these 2 Pokémon completely removes the hyperbolic side of the statement and allows us to affirm without any doubt that this significant affectation of the entirety of the cosmology allows us to attribute to each of these 2 legendary Pokémon an ap low complex, according to the proofs brought concerning the 5d of this same cosmology
Regigigas stops and stops without any difficulty Dialga + Palkia
https://imgur.com/a/8yo8JRK
Backup, it is clearly stated: it stopped them which supports excellently my thesis
https://imgur.com/a/zp0B8Ff
Proof that Giratina scales on Dialga and Palkia
Giratina has been shown narratively as being able to scale on Palkia and Dialga individually and simultaneously on multiple occasions:
Giratina was able to fight and dominate simultaneously Palkia and Dialga (1)
Giratina is also stated as having as much power as Dialga and Palkia (2)
Giratina is once again shown holding his own against Palkia and Dialga at the same time personally (3)
Dialga and Palkia did not manage to defeat Giratina alone and it required the help of trainers and Pokémon only in order to resist him. Despite all that, Giratina was not even put out of commission (4)
My previous statements are supported by the reception of an ice-type attack during their fight from Giratina, very sensitive to attacks of this type due to his nature, supporting the fact that the duo Palkia/Dialga was helped (5, 6)
The opponents of Giratina waited until he was tired before going on the offensive (7)
https://imgur.com/a/5yv6kyW
https://imgur.com/a/b9y5Ph9 ( all proof for giratina )
Regigigas having already shown himself superior to Dialga and Palkia, the latter also exchanged blows with Giratina, clearly supporting his superiority over Dialga and Palkia
https://imgur.com/a/fk3EbYh
Hoopa defeats Regigigas in a 1v3 (Zekrom and Reshiram were on Regigigas’s side)
In short:
Regigigas scales on Dialga/Palkia
So Regigigas would logically be low comp
Hoopa scales on Regigigas, which puts him in the same tier
https://youtu.be/bLWYnMOPLoI?si=ShYPBSR9SJ55OYdW
Backup: Rayquaza resists an aurasphere and a hit from Giratina (full confrontation in the manga adaptation of the Hoopa movie), so his dura would be equivalent to the AP of the latter (he also trades blows with him)
So Rayquaza would have a low comp dura
Hoopa managed to put Rayquaza out of commission in one attack
Contextualization:
Rayquaza was spinning to create the tornado — if the tornado stopped after Hoopa's attack hit Rayquaza, it can only mean that the attack was powerful enough to put Rayquaza out of commission (unable to spin and move)
https://imgur.com/a/igFvCqR
FINISH CONCLUTION HOOPA L1C ( regigigas too but i don't care about him )
( srry for my english im french ^^ )
In accordance with the baseline of our world (uni+) mentioned in the vsbw - page universe
https://imgur.com/a/O1bxy67
Backup¹
“When you first began work on Pokemon Diamond & Pokemon Pearl, what were your main goals? What do you think were the key elements to those games?”
Masuda: “I decided that ‘ultimate’ was the theme in the beginning. I set myself a task to pursue what was the ‘ultimate’ for Pokemon games, and started to act on this theme when making the games. When I asked myself what is ‘ultimate,’ I immediately knew I wanted to improve the level of communication, which is a core element of Pokemon games. In the games, players receive the Pokedex and start collecting Pokemon, which you need to do in order to trade with others. At the time of Ruby & Sapphire, people could trade their Pokemon with someone close by, but not with anyone overseas. I really wanted to do something about this. And that’s why I came up with the Global Trade Station (GTS). That’s what my goal was in the beginning — to create a user network. I want users to be able to connect to the world. That’s the ultimate style of trading for Pokemon. That was the goal. The key element was to create the storyline around the Pokemon in Sinnoh mythology. The relationship between all these Pokemon is the key element. I wanted to express the importance of the balance between substance — Dialga, the ruler of Time, and Palkia, the ruler of Space — and spirit — Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf. If the substance becomes too large, the balance of the spirit collapses. I wanted Dialga and Palkia to become counterparts for a sense of balance. Infinite time and infinite space — that to me is the ‘ultimate.'"
This interview here describes that the Pokémon universe would have infinite time and infinite space. This statement strongly supports and reinforces the previously made assertion regarding the uni+ size considered for this base universe.
Backup²: Lucian, one of the Elite Four members from Sinnoh, affirms the existence of infinite space when he reads about Sinnoh’s history in the Canalave Library:
"...Ah, hello. You’re here to read too? Books are wonderful things. The thoughts of people written in books stretch beyond time and space. I was just reading a collection of letters written by an artist long ago. Specifically, they were written to the artist’s younger brother. The stars that surround us draw us to the other side of infinite space. Feeling their gaze from so far away, I find the charm of life again. The artist must have come to a conclusion from seeing the night sky... It’s an affirmation of life. It’s very moving. I imagine we’ll see each other again at the Pokémon League. Take care of yourself."
(https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lucian).
Up to low multi:
It is explained that Palkia created parallel universes.
The base universe has been demonstrated and explained to be uni+ in size.
Parallel universes to this already quantified baseline would therefore share the same size, making them uni+ as well.
With this, we can already affirm that the Pokéverse would be low multi.
Backup:
The different parallel universes of the Pokéverse are separated by space and time:
"Across both time and space"
If Pokémon must specifically travel through "space and time" to move between these universes, it is legitimate to affirm that these universes are separated by space and time, which is why Pokémon traverse these to move between universes.
Backup²:
In the anime, it is stated that every possibility creates a parallel universe ().
The Mirror/Reflection Cave is a special location whose content represents a number of mirrors, with each mirror constantly leading to and equating to an alternate world ().
Notes:
"World" in the context of Pokémon refers to universes, as we have already proven and explained why these "worlds" would be uni+ in size and of universal nature.
It is therefore clear that the meaning of the word "world" here is universe.
Up to low comp:
As proven and explained, the Pokémon universe possesses multiple timelines, each corresponding to a parallel universe, separated by space and time and parallel to a uni+ baseline. The presence of 2 timelines here allows us to affirm the existence of a 5th dimension, representing the distance between these 2 timelines.
As stated by vsbw, it is logical but important to note that the presence of a 5th dimension implies that the entirety of the Pokémon universe is composed of 5 dimensions, thereby granting it a low comp size as a result.
Palkia does a total reboot of the entirety of the cosmology
"Everything"
"All"
"All things"
These different terms refer to the entirety of the cosmology and indicate to us that the reboot concerns this one
This reboot being a significant affectation of this same cosmology by Palkia
https://imgur.com/a/j2HeqIG
Backup: Dialga, who is of equal strength to Palkia and who is known as his "rival" in some ways
Has a similar feat, he also having performed a total reboot of this cosmology, coming to backup and support the power of these 2 legendary beings (Pokemon Pearl - Palkia
Pokemon Diamond - Dialga)
The different adjectives and words used concerning the description of this feat, and the fact that the reboot really took place by these 2 Pokémon completely removes the hyperbolic side of the statement and allows us to affirm without any doubt that this significant affectation of the entirety of the cosmology allows us to attribute to each of these 2 legendary Pokémon an ap low complex, according to the proofs brought concerning the 5d of this same cosmology
Regigigas stops and stops without any difficulty Dialga + Palkia
https://imgur.com/a/8yo8JRK
Backup, it is clearly stated: it stopped them which supports excellently my thesis
https://imgur.com/a/zp0B8Ff
Proof that Giratina scales on Dialga and Palkia
Giratina has been shown narratively as being able to scale on Palkia and Dialga individually and simultaneously on multiple occasions:
Giratina was able to fight and dominate simultaneously Palkia and Dialga (1)
Giratina is also stated as having as much power as Dialga and Palkia (2)
Giratina is once again shown holding his own against Palkia and Dialga at the same time personally (3)
Dialga and Palkia did not manage to defeat Giratina alone and it required the help of trainers and Pokémon only in order to resist him. Despite all that, Giratina was not even put out of commission (4)
My previous statements are supported by the reception of an ice-type attack during their fight from Giratina, very sensitive to attacks of this type due to his nature, supporting the fact that the duo Palkia/Dialga was helped (5, 6)
The opponents of Giratina waited until he was tired before going on the offensive (7)
https://imgur.com/a/5yv6kyW
https://imgur.com/a/b9y5Ph9 ( all proof for giratina )
Regigigas having already shown himself superior to Dialga and Palkia, the latter also exchanged blows with Giratina, clearly supporting his superiority over Dialga and Palkia
https://imgur.com/a/fk3EbYh
Hoopa defeats Regigigas in a 1v3 (Zekrom and Reshiram were on Regigigas’s side)
In short:
Regigigas scales on Dialga/Palkia
So Regigigas would logically be low comp
Hoopa scales on Regigigas, which puts him in the same tier
https://youtu.be/bLWYnMOPLoI?si=ShYPBSR9SJ55OYdW
Backup: Rayquaza resists an aurasphere and a hit from Giratina (full confrontation in the manga adaptation of the Hoopa movie), so his dura would be equivalent to the AP of the latter (he also trades blows with him)
So Rayquaza would have a low comp dura
Hoopa managed to put Rayquaza out of commission in one attack
Contextualization:
Rayquaza was spinning to create the tornado — if the tornado stopped after Hoopa's attack hit Rayquaza, it can only mean that the attack was powerful enough to put Rayquaza out of commission (unable to spin and move)
https://imgur.com/a/igFvCqR
FINISH CONCLUTION HOOPA L1C ( regigigas too but i don't care about him )
