Where should we draw the line between 3-A and High 3-A?

[Antvasima]

I must admit that I didn't think through where exactly to set the limit between:

"3-Dimensional universal scale" / 3-A (using the visible universe as a standard), and:

"Considerably above universal scale, while still remaining 3-Dimensional in scope" / High 3-A.

However, this is a very vague definition, so I would like to hear suggestions regarding where exactly that we should draw the line?

 

[The_Everlasting]

Here's how I classify it:

3-A: Destroying physical matter that is the size of our own universe.

High 3-A: Either one-shotting a 3-A character (It being casual is optional) or destroying a significantly higher amount of physical matter than what's contained in our universe.

 

[The_Everlasting]

I wrote that because I believe Whis can qualify for High 3-A, and was putting it as an example why.

 

[Antvasima]

Please don't post in the staff only forum.

 

[DontTalk]

The suggestion to differentiate between universial 3-D and mulit-universial 3-D is one good possibility.

Another one would be to set the border between finite and infinite 3-D universes, as that is a really huge difference at well and because discussing the size difference between infinite things of the same dimensionality can be difficult. Then again that means universe size of many verses would have to be discussed.

That aside since we recently had a discussion about it: very small space-time continuums High 3-A I suppose?

 

[Antvasima]

I think that officially placing very low 4-D characters as High 3-A might turn confusing to visitors though. Even I find it somewhat confusing.

 

[DontTalk]

Well, I have absolutely no problem with it being ranked as low 2-C. It certainly is more intuitive.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I am personally uncertain. I don't think that we need to specifically mention it in the tiering page.

Anyway, we should probably return to letting other staff members offer input regarding where exactly to draw the line for 3-Dimensional scale instead.

 

[Darkness552]

wouldn't it just be...being able to destroy the physical matter in more than one universe

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I think that we probably need to draw the line a bit higher than that. It would make regular 3-A a very narrow category, and probably leave virtually all of its characters with the "High" rating.

 

[Darkness552]

Hmm

being able to destroy all physical matter in existence but not being able to affect higher dimensions

 

[Antvasima]

Well, all matter in existence probaby varies in size from fiction to fiction.

 

[DarkLK]

Infinite 3-D power or non-universal 4-D power (aka some part of universe's time-space).

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That does sound like a good definition.

 

[Antvasima]

I have now changed the tiering system accordingly: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/index.php?title=Character_Tiering&diff=291648&oldid=285780