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Wiki Vandalism Reports

Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh said:
Maybe this is worth reporting.
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Before I undo the revisions, @Jinx666 could you explain them? Usually, minor updates or self-evident changes don't include removing scans.
 
Merlin didn't have an intelligence rating, so that was presumably to fix that and Genius was what Jinx thought fit his current justifications (though maybe that should've been done in Self-Evident Intelligence?)

Scan removal could've been an accident, as it was tied to the rating instead of a justification (though that's just my guess)

No idea about the stamina thing
 
 
Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh said:
Maybe this is worth reporting.
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That seems like self-evident cleanup work. 🙏
 
MaskedDragon908 said:
Caleb1775 removed a calculation from this verse page that is currently used on profiles.
They removed it again today.

Caleb1775 also removed a weakness from this page.
They removed it again today.
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The second change seems fine, and the former seems based on a misunderstanding/lack of information. 🙏
 
Antvasima said:
The second change seems fine, and the former seems based on a misunderstanding/lack of information. 🙏
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The first is understandable, if it is a misunderstanding.

For the second, Caleb provides this justification:
"Even though it's weirdly inconsistent, the current iteration of Strahd in Vecna: Eve of Ruin doesn't have the invitation weakness"

If it is inconsistent with his previous selves, then this should either be a new key or examined more closely.
In Curse of Strahd, he is stated to have this weakness.
It is usually not combat-applicable in the game, since he owns Barovia, the setting of the game.

Edit: Perhaps we should ask a more knowledgeable member.
 
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SomebodyData said:
Before I undo the revisions, @Jinx666 could you explain them? Usually, minor updates or self-evident changes don't include removing scans.
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A) 'Limitless' isnt a proper Stamina term. It's fine to remove and replace those (and if there was no valid justification for 'limitless', then it should be fine to reasonably change. I HAVE made a CRT regarding all this, but it's currently in bump hell)
B) The Stamina rating, as shown, was called 'Very High', the scan would hav accidentally been removed cause of that. I cant see imgur links to verify, however what should be linked with a scan is an actual contextual explanation of the feat, and not just saying 'Stamina: Very high'. The profile is also outdated and will be redone in the future so it's not really an issue, and the wiki is trying to steer away from imgur in general. We can add the scan back if we really want, but it should have an actual explanation of whats going on in the panel (especially for people who cant see it)
C) Didnt have an intelligence rating to begin with. If they dont have a rating, then its free to add it on as long as its reasonable cause otherwise its just an incomplete part of the profile. Its also a Fate character with a plentiful explanation of their intelligence (And Merlin is quite obv Genius level from their description, at least in terms of magic prowess)

Some of these edits were done weeks ago so if anything, that proves this Zte person is just lurking my edits waiting for anything report-worthy without understanding that terms like 'Limitless' or 'Very High' aren't valid for profiles as of current quality.
 
I don't know if this is the right place to ask but, just out of curiosity, would it be considered vandalism if I added "Nigh-Omniscience" to P&A section on a character's page who already have nigh-omniscience intelligence?
 
Jinx666 said:
A) 'Limitless' isnt a proper Stamina term. It's fine to remove and replace those (and if there was no valid justification for 'limitless', then it should be fine to reasonably change. I HAVE made a CRT regarding all this, but it's currently in bump hell)
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It's not a proper rating, and with no information about the legions it's probably okay, but discussion beforehand is overwhelmingly preferred, bump hell or not.
Jinx666 said:
B) The Stamina rating, as shown, was called 'Very High', the scan would hav accidentally been removed cause of that. I cant see imgur links to verify, however what should be linked with a scan is an actual contextual explanation of the feat, and not just saying 'Stamina: Very high'. The profile is also outdated and will be redone in the future so it's not really an issue, and the wiki is trying to steer away from imgur in general. We can add the scan back if we really want, but it should have an actual explanation of whats going on in the panel (especially for people who cant see it)
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Changing "Very High" to something that fits the justification (usually Superhuman) is usually fine. It's better if the scan stays though.
Jinx666 said:
C) Didnt have an intelligence rating to begin with. If they dont have a rating, then its free to add it on as long as its reasonable cause otherwise its just an incomplete part of the profile. Its also a Fate character with a plentiful explanation of their intelligence (And Merlin is quite obv Genius level from their description, at least in terms of magic prowess)
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Yes, this is correct. I can't speak to Merlin's intelligence, but if no rating was there, then a rating can be added if it fits the justification.
Jinx666 said:
Some of these edits were done weeks ago so if anything, that proves this Zte person is just lurking my edits waiting for anything report-worthy without understanding that terms like 'Limitless' or 'Very High' aren't valid for profiles as of current quality.
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I don't know about that. It might just have looked like a problem to them.
 
MSahla said:
I don't know if this is the right place to ask but, just out of curiosity, would it be considered vandalism if I added "Nigh-Omniscience" to P&A section on a character's page who already have nigh-omniscience intelligence?
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Normally no but I couldn't say with the rules

I think generally adding stuff in P&A should be fine without a CRT IF the page already explicitly states they have this ability somewhere on the page already (or shows it self-evidently), just cause obviously people could forget to include it/not word it right. It's not like the page is denying they dont have that power just because its not listed officially (powers get missed all the time, whether by accident or people aren't aware of the correct terms)
But thats just my opinion rip
 
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Random-Helper323 said:
It's not a proper rating, and with no information about the legions it's probably okay, but discussion beforehand is overwhelmingly preferred, bump hell or not.
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I can try in the future but theres no 'Self-Evident Stamina Change' thread unlike Intelligence, and im not making an entire CRT just to change a stat that isnt officially valid ('Limitless'). The way i see it, its fair game to change to more suitable official terms for the sake of it being blatantly outdated. Things need to be given some leeway here, pages that are so outdated that they dont even have the official terms to stats (not even boldened) probably need to be revised at some point regardless.
Random-Helper323 said:
Changing "Very High" to something that fits the justification (usually Superhuman) is usually fine. It's better if the scan stays though.
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Scan can stay if it needs to then. Thing is, its imgur so not everyone can see it (and we're steering clear of using imgru iirc), and its better to actually explain the feat going on alongside it so we arent just posting potentially out-of-context panels.
Then again, Jojo characters are pretty insane in their stamina so Ig Ermes could be Superhuman. I really dont mind, but the page is already undergoing revision
Random-Helper323 said:
I don't know about that. It might just have looked like a problem to them.
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I mean they're calling out an edit from 17 days ago. Either they stalked ALL of my self-evi dent clean-up edits (which there are a lot of) to find an angle, or they saw it at the time and have just been biding their time to collect more alongside other wishywashy examples instead of reporting immediately. Either way thats clear intent of them watching me specifically.
I sure cant prove anything but this is like, the 4th time now they're just reporting me over petty self-evident clean-up work. We've already been through this song and dance, and the response from other basic members (and some staff) always seems to pretend like I deserve to be banned over it, so I feel its important to bring up.
 
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Antvasima said:
@Mr. Bambu @Qawsedf234 @Tllmbrg

You are knowledgeable regarding Dungeons & Dragons. What do you think? 🙏
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We've maintained D&D on a simple philosophy that everything from previous editions applies if not directly contradicted. So, for example, if Vecna: Eve of Ruin merely does not mention the weakness one way or the other, it would be presumed to still exist. However, if it is directly stated or shown that Strahd can, indeed, enter houses uninvited, then we would allow the removal of the weakness. I have not read Eve of Ruin, though I could probably get my hands on it to check this out.
 
Antvasima said:
You are knowledgeable regarding Dungeons & Dragons. What do you think? 🙏
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D&D are built under a composite asumption that as long as a newer edition doesn't joss an older one, then both can be valid for tiering as long as we do proper level/CR conversions.

If Strahd explicitly lacks a weakness in a newer edition that he had in older, my assumption would be that he got strong enough on-universe to overcome that weakness, assuming there's no extenuating circumstances like a ritual or temp amp. But if no mention is made I would still assume he'd have it in our profiles.
 
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