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Universal Orochimaru Proposal
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This is pocket dimension creation at best.
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That'd be a massive outlier, and that's a pocket dimension, we don't even see stars or anything there.
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I was expecting to come in here and see something like novel scaling, but no, I see this.
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1. Massive outlier.
2. Pocket dimension creation.
You literally will not get anything better than pocket dimension creation, probably assimilation and parasitic immortality. That's pretty much all you're getting from this.
2. Pocket dimension creation.
You literally will not get anything better than pocket dimension creation, probably assimilation and parasitic immortality. That's pretty much all you're getting from this.
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Uh is this trolling or what?
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1. Can still be a pocket dimensions being called it.
2. Doesn't scale to AP.
3. Outlier.
4. For everyone here, Is the translation legit?
2. Doesn't scale to AP.
3. Outlier.
4. For everyone here, Is the translation legit?
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Prove it and prove it.
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I get mad at people without sense who actually think that's a legit universal feat. Let's just wait for an modmin to close this
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Ok.
1. The highest AP we've ever seen is moon level, which is from a character massively more powerful than Orochimaru putting in effort. This is universal, therefore it's a massive outlier.
2. There's no indication that it's a universe other than Orochimaru said "my universe". There's too many contradictions to anything else for it to legitimately be universal.
1. The highest AP we've ever seen is moon level, which is from a character massively more powerful than Orochimaru putting in effort. This is universal, therefore it's a massive outlier.
2. There's no indication that it's a universe other than Orochimaru said "my universe". There's too many contradictions to anything else for it to legitimately be universal.
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Some fan translations say it's a dimension, but I'd consider Viz > Fan Translations. I'll look for the raw though.
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1. Prove it's a pocket dimension.
2. You know how creation works right?
3. Prove it.
4. It's from viz.
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Yes, they are VIZ scans
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1. Prove it is a alternate universe beyond a single statement, we see no stars around, he calls it "my space" just like other pocket dimensions and it fuctions like one.
Even then it is irrelevant because:
2. Yes, it doesn't scale to AP unless you can prove it, "via creation" exists.
3. You are literally asking me to prove that someone immesenly weaker than moon level people is not universal.
Even then it is irrelevant because:
2. Yes, it doesn't scale to AP unless you can prove it, "via creation" exists.
3. You are literally asking me to prove that someone immesenly weaker than moon level people is not universal.
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Do we have info that the translation is legit? Furthermore this appears to just be a pocket reality rather than a Universe given the info above; plus it does seem outlierish if it was universal yes.
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This is from viz so it seems legit.
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Here's the raw scan. I'll need a full translation but so far I don't think it says Uchu/宇宙, the Kanji for Universe.
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Also, you were dishonest with that screenshot you posted that was supposed to "Clear our questions".
Here's another part that says your statement isn't enough to prove it's a universe.
The burden of proof is on YOU to prove it's a universe, not on me to disprove it.
Also, prove it isn't an outlier. The best feat in the entire verse is 5-C, prove that this somehow is not an outlier when there's a gap that large.
Here's another part that says your statement isn't enough to prove it's a universe.
The burden of proof is on YOU to prove it's a universe, not on me to disprove it.
Also, prove it isn't an outlier. The best feat in the entire verse is 5-C, prove that this somehow is not an outlier when there's a gap that large.
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Viz isn't exactly the best at translating Japanese to English from what I recall; it's best to use raw scans and let human translators translate it.
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Some universes are actually pocket dimensions. How do we know this is an actual universe?
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Little correction that the strongest jutsu is high 4-C but is just one that doesn't scale to physicals and took too long, aside from being from a god tier giving it and everyone's all
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Well if you're so mad, wouldn't you want to debunk it?
1. Is a complete lie. Yo- prove Toneri can beat Oro.
2. What are the contradictions?
1. No. You made the positive claim that it is not a universe. I've fulfilled my burden of proof.
2. Creation to AP. Orochimaru fits.
3. No. Oro could be relative to EMS Sasuke who can fight Juubito who is stated capable of obliterating the world.
I'm deadass.
It's VIZ. By VSBW standards, it would be a universe and therefore a universal feat. I really don't think it is lol. It just upscales the verse.
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That no other feat in Naruto comes anywhere close to Universal.
Prove Orochimaru can beat Toneri, the burden of proof is on you.
You haven't "fulfilled my burden of proof". The page that YOU SCREENSHOTTED earlier says that just a statement about it being a universe isn't enough. YOU have to PROVE it.
Pocket Dimension Creation unless you can prove it's a universe, and not an outlier.
"Oro could be relative to EMS Sasuke who can fight Juubito who is stated capable of obliterating the world"
1. A non-ems Sasuke cucked Orochimaru entirely.
2. EMS Sasuke was working in tandem with Naruto, he didn't do it on his own.
3. Prove he can destroy the world.
Sad.
No, it isn't. The standards you dishonestly posted said that statements about it being a universe weren't enough. Prove that it's a universe.
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This entire thread is going to Brazil.
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I'm already here in Brazil
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Finally someone speaking facts, I think that everyone on the start of shippuden should be 3-A at base
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I'm already here, this BFR won't work
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The only way this can get accepted is if you don’t scale it to physical AP (well duh). This thread is funny tho.
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It doesnt need to be, its on the rules that if its stated to be a Universe, it is.
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From my limited knowledge in Japanese due to knowing most kanji, that scan only said different space. Universe in Japanese is 宇宙.
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Please stop this huge downplay, the verse has clearly been High 3-A since the Chunin Exams due to Gaara's attacks causing Infinite Devastation.
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I really wasn't. There were no stars in his universe lol. That screenshot does nothing for you.
Because many people have stated they would destroy the world. By many.. i can recall like 3. And the world is stated boundless. That's kind of a joke scale tho lol. Take it how you will.
That isn't really the case with Naruto. I can show you from the site I got it from, all of Naruto is officially translated.
Based off of what. It's stated????? It's a universe unless contradicted.
There are plenty of statements regarding the 10 tails being beyond imagination and capable of destroying the universe.
Kaguya. Cuz according to you all, 4D is above infinite 3D. 10 tails is stated to be capable of destroying the universe. Probably some others.
Ayo I never claimed Oro could. You claimed he couldn't. Now fulfill your burden of proof.
No. It says if it is stated a universe or stated to be the size of ours, then it should be considered a universe.
Omg... you haven't been reading have you?
1. It's made pretty clear that he only beat him because of the state Oro was in.
2. He was still capable of fighting him right?
3. I'll go find the statement.
Bro- read your own evidence. "These statements are not enough to call them universes; they may support the ideas when backed up examples above, but none of them individually or altogether may be enough."
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