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Captain Atom (Post-Flashpoint)
Nathaniel Adam was an airforce captain before he became part of Doctor Heinrich Megala's experiment to prove the M-Theory correct and discover something amazing. However, the experiment was a failure and Nathaniel Adam was considered dead for a brief period of time. In reality, Nathaniel had...
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So, I recently made a file for New 52 Cap Atom but there is a slight problem with his AP section. Currently, it's listed as;
The reason I have him at Low 7-B is because he was more powerful than Firestorm, whose semi-serious blast could destroy a city (a direct statement from Captain Atom) - Fury of Firestorm #15. However, Ant (and I) believe that it should be far higher than this, especially since he was able to overpower a team of JL. Although for the life of me I cannot remember which comic/series it happened in and which team he fought. If someone remembers that story arc, please let me know as soon as possible.At least Low 7-B, likely far higher, far higher with absorption.
Ant suggested the following;
The reason for his 4-B is the one mentioned above, plus in Fall and Rise of Captain Atom Vol 1 1, a weakened Cap Atom's Quantum Flare proved too much for Hal Jordan.Maybe "At least 4-B when restricting himself, at least Low 2-C at his peak" or somesuch, by scaling from being vastly superior to the Justice League, and being able to destroy all of time and space at his peak?
Additionally, in Doomsday Clock Vol 1 9, he one shotted Doctor Manhattan. I did mention to Ant that the story was too inconsistent so we can't use it for scaling, but thinking back on it and looking through some Watchmen stuff, I realised Doctor Manhattan's physicals are actually kind of low. Guy Gardner broke his neck, despite Guy being very determined to hurt him. He even says he didn't want to kill him in one punch. Moments later, Doctor Manhattan returns, more evolved than he was before and he tanks attacks from some 4-Bs listed on the wiki, like Zatanna and Etrigan. Now, I know magic and things are hax based and all, and Doc M does get hit by it before he manipulates it, but I think it is possible to say Cap Atom > the others. Especially since Swamp Thing was also helping (?) them against Doc M. In any case, Doc M also tanked attacks from Barda and Black Alice (or maybe someone else, magic is really not my thing) as well as Supergirl and the lanterns. The only one who did any (good) damage was Cap Atom. Also, Doc M seemed extremely shocked (and maybe somewhat fearful,
The reason for his Low 2-C is, in Captain Atom Vol 3 8 - 10, we see that Captain Atom will potentially leave his humanity behind and embrace his Godhood and in doing so, he reaches his full potential, which becomes a time-space destroying energy monster. In addition, in the same comic, present day Nathaniel was able to absorb his future selves and briefly contend against his God-self. Although the fight was cut short because his God Self was erased from existence, so we didn't see how well he would have done in the long run.
My proposal;
- We set Doctor Manhattan's durability to 4-B, or at least 4-B, since his durability feats are very minimal.
- That means we can upscale New 52 Cap Atom from 4-B Lanterns, Supergirl, and Doctor Manhattan's durability.
- The Low 2-C stuff... well, that's up for discussion. I do not know what to do with it.
Doctor Manhattan proposals:
- AP = "Unknown physically, Low 1-C with powers". As I said, he barely has any physical feats, and as we saw in Doomsday Clock, his physical body is much weaker.
- Durability "At least 4-B"
- Also in #12 of Doomsday Clock, he thought Superman's punch would be enough to kill him. In addition, he also thought this brimstone looking guy might be able to hurt him too.
- Possible Regen upgrade to High. He comes back from basically nothing here, as a lowball, I propose High.
So, what do you guys think?
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