- 10,515
- 11,613
Continued from here... kinda.
So we want to find the strongest weapons/items here. But since gun vs mecha is hard to judge in isolation, we need some assumptions on which they are judged. I.e. we need to be able to make vs-threads between the weapons themselves on some neutral ground, without considering their wielder.
Here are the basic rules:
Tier 0:
1. SCP-6820 & SCP-2719
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier High 1-A:
1.SCP (SCP-001 & 6659)
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 1-A:
1. Ghal Maraz
2. The Basanos
3.
4.
5.
Tier Low 1-A:
1. The Ultimate Nullifier
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier High 1-B:
1. The Glory
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 1-B:
1. True Star Saber
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier High 1-C:
1. Key to Time
2.
3.
4.
5.
1-C:
1. Slash Emperor
2. book of demons
3.
4.
5.
Tier Low 1-C:
1. The Infinity Gauntlet
2. Anti-Life Equation
3. Excalibur
4. Heaven's Gate
5. Keysword / Chaos Ball / Time Scroll / Universe Tree
Tier 2-A:
1. Omnitrix
2. Heart of Kandrakar
3. Cosmic Cubes
4.
5.
Tier 2-B:
1. Pyra
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 2-C:
1. The Crystals
2. Yamato / Rebellion / Devil Sword Sparda
3.
4.
5.
Tier Low 2-C:
1. The Ultimate Nullifier
2. Jingke
3. Arrowverse (Spear of Destiny & Book of Destiny & Loom of Destiny)
4.
5.
Tier High 3-A:
1. Heart of Kandrakar
2. SCP-2700
3.
4.
5.
Tier 3-A:
1. The Triforce
2. SCP (319 & 1012)
3.
4.
5.
Tier 3-B:
1. Cat Miraculous
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 3-C:
1. Lor Starcutter
2. Power Star
3. Dimension Sword
4.
5.
Tier 4-A:
1. The Reality Gauntlet
2. Robobot Armor
3.
4.
5.
Tier 4-B:
1. Mother Boxes
2. The Emperor's Sword
3. TARDISes
4. SCP-123
5.
Tier High 4-C:
1. Gotengo
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 4-C:
1. Buster Machine III
2. SCP (2501 & 1425)
3. DMC (beastheads & book of demons)
4.
5.
Tier Low 4-C:
1. Chaos Emeralds
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier High 5-A:
1. Ascalon
2. Exelion
3.
4.
5.
Tier 5-A:
1. Green Lantern Power Ring
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 5-B:
1. Ghal Maraz
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier Low 5-B:
1. Gunbuster
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 5-C:
1. SCP-2117
2. USS Enterprise
3. Soul Edge
4.
5.
Tier High 6-A:
1. Apple of Eden
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 6-A:
1. USS Enterprise
2. SCP-540
3.
4.
5.
Tier High 6-B:
1. Ghal Maraz
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 6-B:
1. Connect-Tek
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier Low 6-B:
1. World Rune
2. Arondight
3. beastheads
4.
5.
Tier High 6-C:
1. Ghal Maraz
2. Falchion
3. SCP-044
4.
5.
Tier 6-C:
1. Ea
2. Gae Bolg
3. Pandora's Box
4. Master Sword
5.
Tier High 7-A:
1. BC-304
2. SCP-540
3.
4.
5.
Tier 7-A:
1. Anti-God Gloria
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 7-B:
1. Master
2. book of demons
3.
4.
5.
Tier Low 7-B:
1. Phase Suit
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier High 7-C:
1. Master
2. Sword of Dan
3. SCP-2948
4.
5.
Tier 7-C:
1. Master Sword
2. Waverider
3.
4.
5.
Tier Low 7-C:
1. Sword of the Mind
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 8-A:
1. Ghal Maraz
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 8-B:
1. Iron Man Suit
2. Anti-Art Attachment
3.
4.
5.
Tier High 8-C:
1. Anubis
2. Don't Touch Me
3.
4.
5.
Tier 8-C:
1. Specineff
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 9-A:
1. Anti-Art Attachment
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 9-B:
1. Temperance and Vengeance
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 9-C:
1. SCP (mostly SCP-3664)
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 10-A:
1. SCP-504
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 10-B:
1. Literally just a whip...
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 10-C:
1. 5D Chess Pieces
2. Type Mosquito
3. SCPs (SCP-2207, SCP-498, SCP-063)
4. The Death Sandwich
5.
Tier 11-A:
1. SCP-3450
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 11-B:
1. Make a 11-B weapon now and get this spot for free!
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 11-C:
1. SCP-6747-B
2.
3.
4.
5.
So we want to find the strongest weapons/items here. But since gun vs mecha is hard to judge in isolation, we need some assumptions on which they are judged. I.e. we need to be able to make vs-threads between the weapons themselves on some neutral ground, without considering their wielder.
Here are the basic rules:
- Same rules as the regular top 5 strongest as basis
- For the vs-thread the item is wielded by a theoretical wielder with the same AP, Striking Strength & Durability as the Tier the item is trying to get a spot in and enough LS to handle the weapon. The wielder has no powers besides these stats and what the items gives them.
- Speed Equal, as way too many items have no independent speed. As basis for the speed equalization the wielder is assumed to have priorly had combat speed equal to the item's combat speed. If the item has no combat speed, it is equal to its reaction speed instead. If it doesn't have that either, the wielder's combat speed is assumed equal to the item's attack speed.
- The wielder is assumed to have average skill in the usage of the item or just enough to make proper use of each of the item's features.
- The wielder is assumed to have average stamina and energy pool (e.g. mana pool for items that need magic to be powered) for their tier.
- The wielder is assumed to use average intelligence in the usage of the item.
- The items need to have their own profile and... be equipment-like items, not androids or similar that just are regular characters.
Tier 0:
1. SCP-6820 & SCP-2719
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier High 1-A:
1.SCP (SCP-001 & 6659)
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 1-A:
1. Ghal Maraz
2. The Basanos
3.
4.
5.
Tier Low 1-A:
1. The Ultimate Nullifier
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier High 1-B:
1. The Glory
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 1-B:
1. True Star Saber
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier High 1-C:
1. Key to Time
2.
3.
4.
5.
1-C:
1. Slash Emperor
2. book of demons
3.
4.
5.
Tier Low 1-C:
1. The Infinity Gauntlet
2. Anti-Life Equation
3. Excalibur
4. Heaven's Gate
5. Keysword / Chaos Ball / Time Scroll / Universe Tree
Tier 2-A:
1. Omnitrix
2. Heart of Kandrakar
3. Cosmic Cubes
4.
5.
Tier 2-B:
1. Pyra
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 2-C:
1. The Crystals
2. Yamato / Rebellion / Devil Sword Sparda
3.
4.
5.
Tier Low 2-C:
1. The Ultimate Nullifier
2. Jingke
3. Arrowverse (Spear of Destiny & Book of Destiny & Loom of Destiny)
4.
5.
Tier High 3-A:
1. Heart of Kandrakar
2. SCP-2700
3.
4.
5.
Tier 3-A:
1. The Triforce
2. SCP (319 & 1012)
3.
4.
5.
Tier 3-B:
1. Cat Miraculous
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 3-C:
1. Lor Starcutter
2. Power Star
3. Dimension Sword
4.
5.
Tier 4-A:
1. The Reality Gauntlet
2. Robobot Armor
3.
4.
5.
Tier 4-B:
1. Mother Boxes
2. The Emperor's Sword
3. TARDISes
4. SCP-123
5.
Tier High 4-C:
1. Gotengo
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 4-C:
1. Buster Machine III
2. SCP (2501 & 1425)
3. DMC (beastheads & book of demons)
4.
5.
Tier Low 4-C:
1. Chaos Emeralds
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier High 5-A:
1. Ascalon
2. Exelion
3.
4.
5.
Tier 5-A:
1. Green Lantern Power Ring
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 5-B:
1. Ghal Maraz
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier Low 5-B:
1. Gunbuster
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 5-C:
1. SCP-2117
2. USS Enterprise
3. Soul Edge
4.
5.
Tier High 6-A:
1. Apple of Eden
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 6-A:
1. USS Enterprise
2. SCP-540
3.
4.
5.
Tier High 6-B:
1. Ghal Maraz
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 6-B:
1. Connect-Tek
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier Low 6-B:
1. World Rune
2. Arondight
3. beastheads
4.
5.
Tier High 6-C:
1. Ghal Maraz
2. Falchion
3. SCP-044
4.
5.
Tier 6-C:
1. Ea
2. Gae Bolg
3. Pandora's Box
4. Master Sword
5.
Tier High 7-A:
1. BC-304
2. SCP-540
3.
4.
5.
Tier 7-A:
1. Anti-God Gloria
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 7-B:
1. Master
2. book of demons
3.
4.
5.
Tier Low 7-B:
1. Phase Suit
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier High 7-C:
1. Master
2. Sword of Dan
3. SCP-2948
4.
5.
Tier 7-C:
1. Master Sword
2. Waverider
3.
4.
5.
Tier Low 7-C:
1. Sword of the Mind
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 8-A:
1. Ghal Maraz
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 8-B:
1. Iron Man Suit
2. Anti-Art Attachment
3.
4.
5.
Tier High 8-C:
1. Anubis
2. Don't Touch Me
3.
4.
5.
Tier 8-C:
1. Specineff
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 9-A:
1. Anti-Art Attachment
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 9-B:
1. Temperance and Vengeance
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 9-C:
1. SCP (mostly SCP-3664)
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 10-A:
1. SCP-504
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 10-B:
1. Literally just a whip...
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 10-C:
1. 5D Chess Pieces
2. Type Mosquito
3. SCPs (SCP-2207, SCP-498, SCP-063)
4. The Death Sandwich
5.
Tier 11-A:
1. SCP-3450
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 11-B:
1. Make a 11-B weapon now and get this spot for free!
2.
3.
4.
5.
Tier 11-C:
1. SCP-6747-B
2.
3.
4.
5.
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