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Demonbane Mythos is more or less done with its cosmology, with sufficient people to agree with the tier proposals in this thread. But I would like to propose a minor revision on the tier proposal while others were working and dealing the characters in DYN Freaks so scale with other characters in Demonbane Mythos. As there were some minor but curious details that were overlooked or not explored in sufficient details in Cosmic Fight between Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis.
Introduction:
In the Cosmic Fight between Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis, three of earliest casualties in the fight were the Huge Universe, a universe where the two Super Deus Machinas with mass and energy to destroy whole universes were less than a single molecule, the Slow Universe where flow of time was so heavy that the two Super Deus Machinas were hardly can move with time manipulation ability and Dead Universe, where two Super Deus Machinas cease to exist and fight as nonexistence beings.
It sounds impressive but nothing mind-blowing? Which is the purpose of this thread to show much you can get from 10 sentences by analyzing deep enough. Most of contents will be put inside spoiler for easier read and a summary is on the outside to list some major points for easier reference.
In conclusion,
Possible Additions
Before reading this part, I would suggest to read the "Magician", "Grimoire" and "Deus Machina" in Terminology and this article for context. This part is simply a food for thought, and may or may not be applicable to an individual universe since it is a bit on vague side, hence, "possible additions".
TLDR Tier Revision for the Cosmology Blog:
From the courtesy of Omni-Man for 10 sentences in Demonbane Mythos to Xianxia/Xuanhuan that spend millions of words of fancy description, pretentious language and flowery statement to not even or barely do the same: "Look What They Need to Mimic a Fraction of Our Power"
Introduction:
In the Cosmic Fight between Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis, three of earliest casualties in the fight were the Huge Universe, a universe where the two Super Deus Machinas with mass and energy to destroy whole universes were less than a single molecule, the Slow Universe where flow of time was so heavy that the two Super Deus Machinas were hardly can move with time manipulation ability and Dead Universe, where two Super Deus Machinas cease to exist and fight as nonexistence beings.
It sounds impressive but nothing mind-blowing? Which is the purpose of this thread to show much you can get from 10 sentences by analyzing deep enough. Most of contents will be put inside spoiler for easier read and a summary is on the outside to list some major points for easier reference.
In the Cosmic Fight between Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis was known as an epic showdown that inflicts massive destruction and creation throughout the multiverse before their ascension to Hyperdimension and being deleted from reality by Nyarlathotep. However, Cosmic Fight was more than a simple multiversal battle, as what contributes its scale is the nature of countless universes as casualties, an earliest victim peeks my curiosity is this universe.
A casual glance will not tell much of the severity and significance of the destruction of this universe, but with a bit research on concerning constants and numbers, you will get very incredible number. Moreover, if you have read and digest enough information to realize the spacetime structure of a single universe in the mortal world in Demonbane Mythos was like, prepare for some mind-blowing.
And that, is the purpose of this article, as a summary of what a universe is like in Demonbane Mythos and how this will affect and change your perception on the actual scale of the Cosmic Fight to realize why Demonbane Mythos is such a powerful fictional universe.
Before going, I would to remind that both Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis were destroyed several universes before arriving to the Huge Universe, check the Hyperdimension Section in the Cosmology.
About the molecules of Huge Universe, what is said by Avogadro Constant?
The amount of substances or elementary entities (atoms, molecules, ions) within any object or sample is ~ 6,022*10^23 particles per mole of unit, this applies to gaseous samples and objects and a mole of gas always contains ~ 6,022*10^23 gas molecules, as I understood from these articles,
In short, if there is a ballon of a mole of unit in the Huge Universe, that ballon would house about a septillion of entities more powerful than creators and destroyers of universes.
It is not that end, Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis, of which mass and energy can destroy many universes were less than a molecule. You know the definition of a molecule, a group of two or more atoms held by chemical bonds, which is a noteworthy trait as both Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis were described to be "less than a single molecule". What is smaller than a molecule? An atom, and two atoms via chemical bonds can form a molecule. A molecule, like any larger system contains smaller entities, is immensely larger than smaller entities and most of its space is empty, and Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis have to be close enough to combat and far enough to avoid another's attacks.
In case I was not clear enough, I am saying Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis are comparable to atoms in the Huge Universe.
How many atoms exists in the Observable Universe? About 10^78 to 10^82 atoms in the Observable Universe.
How Many Atoms Are There in the Universe?
In short, if the Huge Universe has the equivalent of its Observable Universe, we would expect to see 10^78 to 10^82 entities comparable to creators and destroyers of universes.
That, is simply the beginning, what do we know about a universe in Demonbane Mythos again? Its space is infinite and its time is eternal.
This is from the primary universe where most of Zanma Taisei and Kishin Houkou takes place, hence, it will be used as a standard to scale other universes to.
To further strengthen this argument that universes in Demonbane Mythos are infinite in space and eternal in time, here I introduce to you the Imaginary Number Catapult and its abilities, which suggest the primary universe has infinite points in space and infinite points in time.
Yes, the Imaginary Number Catapult accelerates the fundamental elements of the trio to infinite speed and transforms them to exist in all possible spatial coordinations. And, Daijuuji Kurou and Al on Hunting Horror were also use the device to become infinite possibilities in all of space-time, so this seals the infinite coordinations in space and time.
And for some toppling, the trio also manifested from infinite existence and infinite nonexistence from Imaginary Number Catapult, which to indicate the mainstream universe alone holds infinite existence and infinite nonexistence, which is not a surprise because Sandalphon and Hunting Horror were riding between many worlds and many phases, where both are nonexistence entities to the reality, yet reality was also seen as nonexistence to them, hence they were able to avoid being destroyed by the dormant avatar of Cthulhu.
It goes without saying that each universe has their own parallel universes, as according to Cosmology, the Heart of Infinity is the powersource of many Deus Machinas that draw power from many parallel universes or even "infinity", which is either a hint for infinite parallel universes, or from Absolute Infinity or Philosophical Infinity, these concepts are acknowledged to be building blocks of Demonbane Mythos so nothing changes much.
As told also by Cosmology, each Deus Machina hails from respective universes, which are multiverses unto themselves since they have (possible infinite) parallel universes for Deus Machina's Heart of Infinity to draw power from, and Deus Machinas are also metaconceptual entities, whose actuality resides in a Platonic spiritual dimension that encompasses the material dimension, where their physical shell is merely a reflection of the superlogical and nondual mass of substance in that spiritual dimension.
We also cannot forget about the inbetween worlds in normal universes as told by Cosmology, or the Non-Euclidean Geometry, which is a (silly) blanket term made by Lovecraft to denote dimensions other than our three dimensions of space and one dimension of time, which suggests the existence of multiple higher dimensions within a universe, and a magician's ability to perceive, manipulate and control them, as dealing with higher dimensions beyond mundane reality is elementary qualitification for a magician.
EDIT: To add spice to the appetizer, individual universes in Demonbane Mythos is home to an endless hierarchy of stories, which are universes to reflect each individual's worldview because without a story, a being cannot exist in any sense, and stated by the author, the stories from countless living beings of diverse backgrounds are always branching countlessly and infinitely in its diversity and the branches from those stories also create an endlessly more series of stories of their own diversity, furthering augumenting that all things in Demonbane Mythos is infinite x infinite (Mainstream Multiverse).
Which is to say, a universe in Demonbane Mythos also has its own infinity hierarchy of stories, worlds, branches and universes.
As the scale of most parts of Zanma Taisei/Kishin Houkou are limited to the mainstream universe, it is certain despite how immense the scale of all these factors, they are only characteristics and a part of the spacetime structure the mainstream universe built on.
Thus, I will say this again and again, all of these can and will apply to other universes unless said otherwise.
What all of these entitle to?
That means Mainstream Universe is infinite and eternal, houses multiple higher dimensions, contains many (or infinite) parallel counterparts, innumerable inbetween worlds, hidden dimensions, "infinite existence/infinite nonexistence", Platonic Realm-like spiritual dimension that encompasses all that is material dimension, an endless hierarchy of stories, worlds and universes of immeasurable diversities that also branching infinitely to create a further unlimitedly more stories, worlds and universes of likewise immeasurable diversities, etc and etc.
Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis have the mass and energy (and likely size) to outright destroy several of similar universes as collateral damage.
The Huge Universe would not only house what is an immensely larger counterpart of Mainstream Universe's spacetime structure, but also home to infinitely infinite atoms and molecules that respectively comparable or superior the mass and energy (and the size) to destroy several similar universes, imagine beings capable of destroying/creating spacetime structure of such scale and become less than single molecule in Huge Universe.
Even so,
You know what?
The Huge Universe was nothing to later victims,
The Slow Universe has a spacetime structure with so much restriction that Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis could hardly move with time manipulation. Yes, you heard me, it is not Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis can hardly by themselves, but this is already with the assistance of De Marigny's Clock, a powerful artefact that can manipulate space, time and causality to the most fundamental scale on the scale of universes!
Imagine this, both Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis were able to move without De Marigny's Clock and even destroy the Huge Universe with a powerful technique, yet, within this Slow Universe, not even De Marigny's Clock can help with them even for basic movements.
Imagine this, what kind of universe with laws of reality so powerful to restrict beings that can destroy and create a universe of infinitely infinite entities comparable, or stronger than beings that can destroy and create many universes like the mainstream universes to barely able to move even with time manipulation abilities?
The Dead Universe is a universe of pure nonexistence where even Demonbane and Liber Legis cannot exist and still serves a battlefield between the very Deus Machinas that blasted the Slow Universe to oblivion, this does make you to wonder what kind of hostile universe to able to render those can destroy Slow Universe to nonexistence?
The Dead Universe has a complete stable space and time and where nothing could happen seems to indicate the difficulty to manipulate spacetime here outclasses the Slow Universe to every aspect and possible immense restrictions on altering the reality of this universe due to "nothing could happen", although Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis can still fight as nonexistence entities, lesser beings than them might cease to be forever upon entering this universe.
It goes without saying by rules, Dead Universe >>> Slow Universe >>> Huge Universe, as the previous transcends the later and Demonbane and Liber Legis continues to move to more otherworldly and transcendental universes and dimensions in their fight that lasted for an eternity.
Remember, these three universes are the amongst earliest victims in Cosmic Fight, they are nothing to the countless and infinite universes and dimensions that Demonbane and Liber Legis landed into, destroyed and created countless upon countless times until they arrived to Hyperdimension to be deleted by Nyarlathotep.
Chapter 4 - Cosmic Fight said:
A casual glance will not tell much of the severity and significance of the destruction of this universe, but with a bit research on concerning constants and numbers, you will get very incredible number. Moreover, if you have read and digest enough information to realize the spacetime structure of a single universe in the mortal world in Demonbane Mythos was like, prepare for some mind-blowing.
And that, is the purpose of this article, as a summary of what a universe is like in Demonbane Mythos and how this will affect and change your perception on the actual scale of the Cosmic Fight to realize why Demonbane Mythos is such a powerful fictional universe.
Before going, I would to remind that both Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis were destroyed several universes before arriving to the Huge Universe, check the Hyperdimension Section in the Cosmology.
About the molecules of Huge Universe, what is said by Avogadro Constant?
The amount of substances or elementary entities (atoms, molecules, ions) within any object or sample is ~ 6,022*10^23 particles per mole of unit, this applies to gaseous samples and objects and a mole of gas always contains ~ 6,022*10^23 gas molecules, as I understood from these articles,
In short, if there is a ballon of a mole of unit in the Huge Universe, that ballon would house about a septillion of entities more powerful than creators and destroyers of universes.
It is not that end, Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis, of which mass and energy can destroy many universes were less than a molecule. You know the definition of a molecule, a group of two or more atoms held by chemical bonds, which is a noteworthy trait as both Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis were described to be "less than a single molecule". What is smaller than a molecule? An atom, and two atoms via chemical bonds can form a molecule. A molecule, like any larger system contains smaller entities, is immensely larger than smaller entities and most of its space is empty, and Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis have to be close enough to combat and far enough to avoid another's attacks.
In case I was not clear enough, I am saying Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis are comparable to atoms in the Huge Universe.
How many atoms exists in the Observable Universe? About 10^78 to 10^82 atoms in the Observable Universe.
How Many Atoms Are There in the Universe?
In short, if the Huge Universe has the equivalent of its Observable Universe, we would expect to see 10^78 to 10^82 entities comparable to creators and destroyers of universes.
That, is simply the beginning, what do we know about a universe in Demonbane Mythos again? Its space is infinite and its time is eternal.
Zanma Taisei Prologue said:
Al Azif's Route - Chapter 13 said:
Gunshin Kyoshuu - Chapter 1 - Duel in Space said:
This is from the primary universe where most of Zanma Taisei and Kishin Houkou takes place, hence, it will be used as a standard to scale other universes to.
To further strengthen this argument that universes in Demonbane Mythos are infinite in space and eternal in time, here I introduce to you the Imaginary Number Catapult and its abilities, which suggest the primary universe has infinite points in space and infinite points in time.
Yes, the Imaginary Number Catapult accelerates the fundamental elements of the trio to infinite speed and transforms them to exist in all possible spatial coordinations. And, Daijuuji Kurou and Al on Hunting Horror were also use the device to become infinite possibilities in all of space-time, so this seals the infinite coordinations in space and time.
Leica Crusade's Route - Chapter 13 said:
And for some toppling, the trio also manifested from infinite existence and infinite nonexistence from Imaginary Number Catapult, which to indicate the mainstream universe alone holds infinite existence and infinite nonexistence, which is not a surprise because Sandalphon and Hunting Horror were riding between many worlds and many phases, where both are nonexistence entities to the reality, yet reality was also seen as nonexistence to them, hence they were able to avoid being destroyed by the dormant avatar of Cthulhu.
Hadou Ruri's Route - Chapter 14 said:
Leica Crusade's Route - Chapter 14 said:
It goes without saying that each universe has their own parallel universes, as according to Cosmology, the Heart of Infinity is the powersource of many Deus Machinas that draw power from many parallel universes or even "infinity", which is either a hint for infinite parallel universes, or from Absolute Infinity or Philosophical Infinity, these concepts are acknowledged to be building blocks of Demonbane Mythos so nothing changes much.
As told also by Cosmology, each Deus Machina hails from respective universes, which are multiverses unto themselves since they have (possible infinite) parallel universes for Deus Machina's Heart of Infinity to draw power from, and Deus Machinas are also metaconceptual entities, whose actuality resides in a Platonic spiritual dimension that encompasses the material dimension, where their physical shell is merely a reflection of the superlogical and nondual mass of substance in that spiritual dimension.
We also cannot forget about the inbetween worlds in normal universes as told by Cosmology, or the Non-Euclidean Geometry, which is a (silly) blanket term made by Lovecraft to denote dimensions other than our three dimensions of space and one dimension of time, which suggests the existence of multiple higher dimensions within a universe, and a magician's ability to perceive, manipulate and control them, as dealing with higher dimensions beyond mundane reality is elementary qualitification for a magician.
EDIT: To add spice to the appetizer, individual universes in Demonbane Mythos is home to an endless hierarchy of stories, which are universes to reflect each individual's worldview because without a story, a being cannot exist in any sense, and stated by the author, the stories from countless living beings of diverse backgrounds are always branching countlessly and infinitely in its diversity and the branches from those stories also create an endlessly more series of stories of their own diversity, furthering augumenting that all things in Demonbane Mythos is infinite x infinite (Mainstream Multiverse).
Which is to say, a universe in Demonbane Mythos also has its own infinity hierarchy of stories, worlds, branches and universes.
As the scale of most parts of Zanma Taisei/Kishin Houkou are limited to the mainstream universe, it is certain despite how immense the scale of all these factors, they are only characteristics and a part of the spacetime structure the mainstream universe built on.
Thus, I will say this again and again, all of these can and will apply to other universes unless said otherwise.
What all of these entitle to?
That means Mainstream Universe is infinite and eternal, houses multiple higher dimensions, contains many (or infinite) parallel counterparts, innumerable inbetween worlds, hidden dimensions, "infinite existence/infinite nonexistence", Platonic Realm-like spiritual dimension that encompasses all that is material dimension, an endless hierarchy of stories, worlds and universes of immeasurable diversities that also branching infinitely to create a further unlimitedly more stories, worlds and universes of likewise immeasurable diversities, etc and etc.
Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis have the mass and energy (and likely size) to outright destroy several of similar universes as collateral damage.
The Huge Universe would not only house what is an immensely larger counterpart of Mainstream Universe's spacetime structure, but also home to infinitely infinite atoms and molecules that respectively comparable or superior the mass and energy (and the size) to destroy several similar universes, imagine beings capable of destroying/creating spacetime structure of such scale and become less than single molecule in Huge Universe.
Even so,
You know what?
The Huge Universe was nothing to later victims,
Chapter 4 - Cosmic Fight said:
The Slow Universe has a spacetime structure with so much restriction that Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis could hardly move with time manipulation. Yes, you heard me, it is not Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis can hardly by themselves, but this is already with the assistance of De Marigny's Clock, a powerful artefact that can manipulate space, time and causality to the most fundamental scale on the scale of universes!
Imagine this, both Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis were able to move without De Marigny's Clock and even destroy the Huge Universe with a powerful technique, yet, within this Slow Universe, not even De Marigny's Clock can help with them even for basic movements.
Imagine this, what kind of universe with laws of reality so powerful to restrict beings that can destroy and create a universe of infinitely infinite entities comparable, or stronger than beings that can destroy and create many universes like the mainstream universes to barely able to move even with time manipulation abilities?
Chapter 4 - Cosmic Fight said:
The Dead Universe is a universe of pure nonexistence where even Demonbane and Liber Legis cannot exist and still serves a battlefield between the very Deus Machinas that blasted the Slow Universe to oblivion, this does make you to wonder what kind of hostile universe to able to render those can destroy Slow Universe to nonexistence?
The Dead Universe has a complete stable space and time and where nothing could happen seems to indicate the difficulty to manipulate spacetime here outclasses the Slow Universe to every aspect and possible immense restrictions on altering the reality of this universe due to "nothing could happen", although Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis can still fight as nonexistence entities, lesser beings than them might cease to be forever upon entering this universe.
It goes without saying by rules, Dead Universe >>> Slow Universe >>> Huge Universe, as the previous transcends the later and Demonbane and Liber Legis continues to move to more otherworldly and transcendental universes and dimensions in their fight that lasted for an eternity.
Remember, these three universes are the amongst earliest victims in Cosmic Fight, they are nothing to the countless and infinite universes and dimensions that Demonbane and Liber Legis landed into, destroyed and created countless upon countless times until they arrived to Hyperdimension to be deleted by Nyarlathotep.
In conclusion,
- The Mainstream Universe has these traits - infinite in space, eternal in time, endless coordinations of spacetime, endless possibilities, many (possible infinite) parallel universes, boundless existence/nonexistence, subsidiary hidden universes of innumerable parallel worlds that house Deus Machinas, Platonic Realm-like spiritual dimension that encompasses the material dimension, multitudes of Non-Eucllidean Geometry (higher dimensions than three dimensions of space and one dimension of time), uncountable phases and worlds of diverse types such as nightmare worlds, fantasy worlds, nonexistence worlds, etc
- As stated by author, the Mainstream Universe also has its own endless hierarchy of stories, worlds and universes of infinite diversities from countless living beings from diverse backgrounds, be that a mortal (such as a poet, a singer, a worker, etc) or a magician as a universal ability to sustain the existence and meaning of themselves, and those stories, worlds and universes are likewise, also branching into another endless hierarchy to form an infinitely infinite hierarchy of stories, worlds and universes of endless diversities.
- As this is the mainstream universe, its traits will be common for all other universes until said otherwise.
- The Huge Universe is where beings with mass and energy to obliterate many similar universes are less than a single molecule, which might suggest creators and destroyers of universes similar to Mainstream Universe are as much as atoms in the Huge Universe.
- The Huge Universe should share these similar traits, and naturally, also should house an infinitely infinite amount of entities comparable and stronger creators and destroyers of universes similar to Mainstream Universe, and those entities are essentially normal molecules and atoms in the Huge Universe.
- Yet, Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis still destroyed the Huge Universe.
- The Slow Universe transcends even the Huge Universe, as its sheer spacetime structure was so restrictive the Demonbane and Liber Legis that destroyed the Huge Universe can barely able to move despite already utilizing their spacetime manipulation artefact - De Marigny's Clock.
- Yet, Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis still destroyed the Slow Universe.
- The Dead Universe transcends even the Slow Universe, as its nature of pure nonexistence renders Demonbane and Liber Legis to nonexistence, although that does not stop them to continue to fight, it does speak some volume when a universe was so strange that beings can destroy the Slow Universe were unable to exist. Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis might able to defy its laws of reality, but lesser beings than them would simply cease to be, and its spacetime being complete stable suggests the degree to manipulate spacetime in Dead Universe vastly outclasses the Slow Universe.
- Yet, Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis still destroyed the Dead Universe.
- Yet, Huge Universe, Slow Universe and Dead Universe are merely some of the earliest victims, utterly insigificant casualties amongst countless other transcendental and otherworldly universes, dimensions and worlds in the eternal Cosmic Fight between Super Demonbane and Super Liber Legis.
Possible Additions
Before reading this part, I would suggest to read the "Magician", "Grimoire" and "Deus Machina" in Terminology and this article for context. This part is simply a food for thought, and may or may not be applicable to an individual universe since it is a bit on vague side, hence, "possible additions".
As suggested by this article I made a few days ago, that magic has infinite layers of abyss, where a magician can peer into a far distant world and far deeper universe as they traverse deeper into the infinite abyss until they reach the end and beyond to begin a move to the domain of gods.
However, there is a dilemma - we know magic is universal to all of Demonbane Mythos, does that apply to infinite abyss of the world of mortals though?
This dilemma was never explained fully nor is pose to major significance, but as long as it is a food for thought, so it must be included. If you are done with reading relevant links then time to move to Cosmic Horror on the section about Whateley Brothers,
In the first two spoilers, Daijuuji Kurou is being tormented by the remnants of Wilbur Whateley in the bottom of the infinite layer as an infinite-sized world of three dimensions of space and non-Euclidean strange angles (beyond three dimensions of space) that is a twisted reminiscence of the event in Dunwich Horror, where Wilbur infiltrated the Miskatonic University and terrorized Daijuuji Kurou for an entire lifetime, and here, he destroyed and tortured Daijuuji Kurou endlessly.
Wilbur Whateley and Yog Whateley are both described to hail from "beyond the infinity".
In the third spoiler that is about Yog Whateley, the younger twin of Wilbur Whateley are described as a being that can tear a rift in spacetime, hailed from beyond time and space and of infinite magnitude when its endless eyes and tumors are clashing on reality to erode the barrier between reality and nightmare, some accompanying symbols on its action were curious enough, and might hint of nondualistic nature for Yog Whateley.
Regardless, the symbols might not mean anything, and what is noteworthy is also Wilbur Whateley and Yog Whateley are said to hail from "beyond the infinity".
The brothers are natives to the mainstream universe and should have never go to other universes, they are lesser beings than Deus Machina and lesser beings than Cosmic Horrors fought by Al Azif, Aeon and an unknown magician. Daijuuji Kurou was also a native to his universe, and it was until Strange Eons that he, Al Azif and Demonbane went to other universes in Outerverse, what does entitle to?
=> Magic and Domain of Gods might be universal, but the infinite abyss of Human World might be unique to each mortal universe.
In short, a single universe of Demonbane Mythos might also house its unique infinite layers of abyss that represents infinite states of comprehension, being/nonbeing, worlds and universes of different depths and perception that encompass and transcend non-Euclidean Geometry.
However, there is a dilemma - we know magic is universal to all of Demonbane Mythos, does that apply to infinite abyss of the world of mortals though?
This dilemma was never explained fully nor is pose to major significance, but as long as it is a food for thought, so it must be included. If you are done with reading relevant links then time to move to Cosmic Horror on the section about Whateley Brothers,
In the first two spoilers, Daijuuji Kurou is being tormented by the remnants of Wilbur Whateley in the bottom of the infinite layer as an infinite-sized world of three dimensions of space and non-Euclidean strange angles (beyond three dimensions of space) that is a twisted reminiscence of the event in Dunwich Horror, where Wilbur infiltrated the Miskatonic University and terrorized Daijuuji Kurou for an entire lifetime, and here, he destroyed and tortured Daijuuji Kurou endlessly.
Wilbur Whateley and Yog Whateley are both described to hail from "beyond the infinity".
In the third spoiler that is about Yog Whateley, the younger twin of Wilbur Whateley are described as a being that can tear a rift in spacetime, hailed from beyond time and space and of infinite magnitude when its endless eyes and tumors are clashing on reality to erode the barrier between reality and nightmare, some accompanying symbols on its action were curious enough, and might hint of nondualistic nature for Yog Whateley.
Regardless, the symbols might not mean anything, and what is noteworthy is also Wilbur Whateley and Yog Whateley are said to hail from "beyond the infinity".
The brothers are natives to the mainstream universe and should have never go to other universes, they are lesser beings than Deus Machina and lesser beings than Cosmic Horrors fought by Al Azif, Aeon and an unknown magician. Daijuuji Kurou was also a native to his universe, and it was until Strange Eons that he, Al Azif and Demonbane went to other universes in Outerverse, what does entitle to?
=> Magic and Domain of Gods might be universal, but the infinite abyss of Human World might be unique to each mortal universe.
In short, a single universe of Demonbane Mythos might also house its unique infinite layers of abyss that represents infinite states of comprehension, being/nonbeing, worlds and universes of different depths and perception that encompass and transcend non-Euclidean Geometry.
TLDR Tier Revision for the Cosmology Blog:
- Human Universe = 2-A -> At least High 1-B+
(There are an unknown number of non-Euclidean geometries and strange dimensional angles when Daijuuji Kurou was tormented by Wilbur Whateley. It also houses its endless hierarchy of stories, worlds and universes of infinite diversities that continue to branch infinitely. There is a Platonic Realm-like spiritual dimension that encompasses the material dimension, but I do not have a clue how to rank this yet). - Huge Universe = Low 1-A
(It should at least house an similar and immensely larger counterpart of cosmological structure to Human Universe and being home to infiniely infinite amount of atoms and molecules respectively comparable or stronger than the mass and energy to destroy several similar structures to Human Universe). - Slow Universe = At least Low 1-A+
(Its unbelievable spacetime structure renders casual movements to be difficult for beings able to destroy Huge Universe even via their time manipulation ability) - Dead Universe = Possible 1-A
(Its otherworldly nonexistence nature renders beings that can destroy Slow Universe to be unable to exist and had to fight by methods uminaginable to normal universes, its nature also suggests spacetime manipulation and reality manipulation in this universe is even immensely more difficult than Slow Universe)
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