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He scales to base G5, not to Luffy with Hao Infusion.
He ABSOLUTELY is. He has anti DF weapons, and lasers, and 6 bodies, and can control the Seraphim.
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One Piece: High 6-A downgrade Pt. 2
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Note how in the 2nd panel there are airslices going in both directions.
Kaku and Zoro also fought him off-screen, supported by the fact that S-Hawk left because all 4 of them, including Kaku, were not going to go down easy.
At no point does it seem like Kaku is being overwhelmed or that Zoro is carrying the duo.
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DaMonkeMan
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I don't have the heart to tell him that isn't a clash.
He scales to Buso G5 which is a big nono.
I don't understand how he ever got H6A ngl. Dude literally landed 0 hits and his scaling is on the rocks because his only feat is a callback clash that isn't consistent with his other feats.
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Literally the entire fight, on and off-screen, Kaku is shown as even with S-Hawk.
His Rankyaku was matching S-Hawk.
He scales.
DaMonkeMan
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I'm done
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Looking at the scans on his profile and... dude literally takes hits from Gear 5th Luffy. Like, what???
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@Ped2018 @TheMonkeMan Do not antagonize each other here.
I'll be deleting the last couple comments up above.
I'll be deleting the last couple comments up above.
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..First hit, he coughs blood and gets sent flying, disappears for a minute
Second hit, neck is cracked and he's sent flying again.
Third hit, he coughs blood, gets sent flying, and is knocked out.
That's not grounds for a downscale.
At most the first one is grounds for a downscale but even then I doubt it.
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I'm seeing what's going on here. You're playing these up to be bigger deals than they are. I mean, take the Dawn Whip for example. He legit gets back up and is fine soon after that. He's cracking his neck, all there is to it.
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But BB nearly cracks Ace's neck and we don't use that to make Ace downscale.
Lmao.
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Lucci is cracking his own neck after he got sent back, idk what you're on about with this comparison. Also, don't we literally downscale Ace since he gave Blackbeard "one hell of a fight"?
If Lucci doesn't scale at all, man suddenly becomes thousands of times weaker than Gear 5th Luffy, at which point he'd just instantly die the moment an attack made contact with him
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Difference between almost snapping a neck and just making someone do a typical neck crack like they got a stiff muscle.
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Now he supposedly just cracks his neck for sport.
Jesus christ Lucci wankers are down bad.
Jesus christ Lucci wankers are down bad.
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We know End of Wano Base Luffy with a basic ass Buso punch can hurt Zoan Kaidou
Awakening Form Lucci can match a casual Buso punch from a Gear 5th Luffy
Base Kaku can match Base Zoro and is shown as comparable to him
We see Awakening Kaku forces Zoro to use Buso, meaning he should be above Base Zoro
As we know, Lucci is stronger than Kaku, so he scales above Base Zoro, who at this point, scales to King
Awakening Lucci is by all accounts 1 Petaton and is at least on the Base Kaidou level of power
Awakening Form Lucci can match a casual Buso punch from a Gear 5th Luffy
Base Kaku can match Base Zoro and is shown as comparable to him
We see Awakening Kaku forces Zoro to use Buso, meaning he should be above Base Zoro
As we know, Lucci is stronger than Kaku, so he scales above Base Zoro, who at this point, scales to King
Awakening Lucci is by all accounts 1 Petaton and is at least on the Base Kaidou level of power
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Kaidou does the same thing with his jaw.
Hell, I do that with my spine.
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It's called a stiff muscle. You see this in stuff like, Dragon Ball for example. Someone gets up and cracks their neck afterwards
Also you're getting needlessly aggressive over fictional power scaling
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Anyone 1 petaton is above base Kaido
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Yep.
This, and he also pushes Buso Zoro back more than S-Hawk did in his first clash with Zoro.
Base Zoro should scale above Base Marco, who scales to Aokiji himself, cuz of cracking King's mask that endured Marco's knee to da face.
This, plus the above of Kaku w/ Rankyaku matching S-Hawk.
Rankyaku Kaku = S-Hawk = 2-Sword Buso Zoro >= Buso King >> No-Haki King w/sword = 1 petaton.
HAHAHA no.
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I'm not needlessly over aggressive.
I've been ridiculed and laughed at for six ******* months because I disagree with Lucci being Yonko level.
It's really disgusting tbh.
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Bye.
If you were a tad more polite about it, then it wouldn't be an issue.
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Right from the OP my homie!
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I mean yeah I've seen some of that here
But most of it is people giving legitimate arguments that you respond to with "lol Lucci wankers", like with the neck crack thing
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You've been ridiculed because you call everyone Lucci Wankers if they disagree.
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I'll deal with those 2 comments when I get home
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Damn, Kaido the weakest Yonko frfr
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Brother, it says backscale
Kaido is 1 petaton. Some people backscale from him to baseline 6-A
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Because there's no logical reason for Lucci to scale.
Even if you insist on him scaling from the clash and think it isn't inconsistent, it's not applying for anything else because he got blitzed multiple times, couldn't hit Luffy once, and each attack ****** him up.
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Pushing Back Zoro in both cases isn't impressive as he's in the air when he clashes with them, meaning there's nothing to support him from not getting pushed back. On top of this S-Hawk strikes him once while Kaku's Rokushiki attack strikes him multiple times.
He didn't match him, he launched a bunch of rankyaku from range and S-Hawk deflected them. Monkeman was right, that straight up isn't a clash.
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Justifying why you're brushing off anyone who disagrees with you as "wankers" isn't making your case any better
There's a legitimate reason why multiple people disagree with you
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Yeah sorry, but you're literally saying Lucci is Yonko level. To me that was unprecedented wank.
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Prove that in your argument instead of making accusations that only sour the discussion
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I'm not proving it. If I make a CRT I'm gonna get jumped and people are gonna spam "But he claaashhedd!!!" and it'll be rejected like last time.
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On this point, it's still notable as a clash since if you want to get technical, basic physics would imply that the outputs are relative to one another in order for them to briefly stalemate like this
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Buso Lucci = Base G5 Luffy is all I'm saying
Before you go "but the rock tho" what did the rock even do?
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Maybe there's a good reason why it was rejected...
If you're not gonna prove your argument here, don't act as though this shit flinging is your best option
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This is extreme hyperbole.
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My comment was only covering the "push back" point, but if we're comparing the two attacks in terms of clashing then a comparison can't even be made.
Awakened Kaku's attack never clashed with Zoro, he started attacking while Zoro was blocking and when Zoro did decide to attack back Kaku was overpowered.
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