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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

How many layers is soul manipulation and soul crush? I think 3 layers right?
Human < yammy soul manipulation (1 layer/baseline) < grimmjow < aizen reiatsu ( 2 layer)
Ther's also Human < lieutenant level reiatsu (baseline) ~ SS ichigo < SS kenpachi (2 layer) < grimmjow < Aizen (3 layer)
Can it be scaled higher?
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
How many layers is soul manipulation and soul crush? I think 3 layers right?
Human < yammy soul manipulation (1 layer/baseline) < grimmjow < aizen reiatsu ( 2 layer)
Ther's also Human < lieutenant level reiatsu (baseline) ~ SS ichigo < SS kenpachi (2 layer) < grimmjow < Aizen (3 layer)
Can it be scaled higher?
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Speaking of which, someone should blog about it. Because to this day there seems to be no accepted amount of layers of soul hax in bleach. And since they don't, each one could invent their own schedule and that would be very bad for vs.
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
How many layers is soul manipulation and soul crush? I think 3 layers right?
Human < yammy soul manipulation (1 layer/baseline) < grimmjow < aizen reiatsu ( 2 layer)
Ther's also Human < lieutenant level reiatsu (baseline) ~ SS ichigo < SS kenpachi (2 layer) < grimmjow < Aizen (3 layer)
Can it be scaled higher?
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They are higher tho
 
Jaymes Hanson confirmed this cour ends with yhwach stabbing sk on chapter 612.

Dam so cour was like 70 chapters. Cour 3 might just wrap up the rest of the arc unless they plan on giving a lot of new content.
 
Reio35 said:
Kubo just changed their designs a bit. Only lile and Gerard and askin have a V2 volstandig. Gerard and lile have v3 forms. Candice my have a V2 holy form after she amped her self with sclaveri her crown got bigger and her design changed a bit.
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Could As' also be considered a V2?
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
How many layers is soul manipulation and soul crush? I think 3 layers right?
Human < yammy soul manipulation (1 layer/baseline) < grimmjow < aizen reiatsu ( 2 layer)
Ther's also Human < lieutenant level reiatsu (baseline) ~ SS ichigo < SS kenpachi (2 layer) < grimmjow < Aizen (3 layer)
Can it be scaled higher?
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20 layers atleast
https://cdn.****************.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/bleach_oneshot_060.png
 
Twisted_Little_Raven said:
Weakened Base Kenpachi eyepatch on < Sternritter girls <= Healthy Base Kenpachi eyepatch on < Shikai Rg byakuya < Gremmy with clones < Shikai Kenpachi
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Proof for the Sternritter girls scaling to healthy base Kenpachi? Cause they don’t think they do themselves, they acknowledge he’s weakened and they’re killing him because he’s weakened. It seems you think they’re stronger than what they think of themselves
 
This implied cour 3 and 4 will either have lot of original content or maybe it goes into a new arc?

Altough I do wonder why cour 2 is so fast-paced.
 
Undylan said:
This implied cour 3 and 4 will either have lot of original content or maybe it goes into a new arc?

Altough I do wonder why cour 2 is so fast-paced.
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Kubo original wanted the tybw to last much longer but due to his health he cutt it short. So i think the anime is going to end it the way he wanted
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
You have to prove that each grade is enough to bypass the soul resistance of the pervious grade.
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That's why a blog has to be made.

I saw some saying that it arrives in the thousands because of theroots being a combination of several holows and so on.

But they would have to prove that +1 soul/Holow would give +1 resistance to soul manipulation. Because it is not simply by numbers, for example a guy who controls a soul and a guy who can control thousands of souls, on the wiki they would have the same soul manipulation power.

Unless you are a D&D type rpg that having more +1 equals a layer because of this rpg verse mechanic.
 
BestMGQScalerEver said:
I want Ichibe's zanpakuto so I can turn myself into a velociraptor.
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excuse.jpg
 
Phsccarvalho said:
That's why a blog has to be made.

I saw some saying that it arrives in the thousands because of theroots being a combination of several holows and so on.

But they would have to prove that +1 soul/Holow would give +1 resistance to soul manipulation. Because it is not simply by numbers, for example a guy who controls a soul and a guy who can control thousands of souls, on the wiki they would have the same soul manipulation power.

Unless you are a D&D type rpg that having more +1 equals a layer because of this rpg verse mechanic.
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I doubt that works because gillians are just a bunch of hollows merged together, and adjucas are ridiculously more so. Even grimmjow was made of like, millions of souls. But that doesn't mean he has millions of soul manipulation layers.
 
Guacamolefletcher said:
Proof for the Sternritter girls scaling to healthy base Kenpachi? Cause they don’t think they do themselves, they acknowledge he’s weakened and they’re killing him because he’s weakened. It seems you think they’re stronger than what they think of themselves
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Already argued against this and dont really feel like doing it again. My opinion doesnt really matter as its not of the normal opinion so a mere fra is all it takes to beat it in a thread
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
You have to prove that each grade is enough to bypass the soul resistance of the pervious grade.
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This is the best you can get regarding how Reatsu crush works. Grimmjow is captain class individual. Aizen crushes him. 1-3 is considered as Captain class take Grimmjow as class 3 and Aizen as 2. You can already see the layers.
 
I don't think Gremmy's fight made kenpachi less durable or something It only exhausted him but they're still powerful enough to injure him
Guacamolefletcher said:
Proof for the Sternritter girls scaling to healthy base Kenpachi? Cause they don’t think they do themselves, they acknowledge he’s weakened and they’re killing him because he’s weakened. It seems you think they’re stronger than what they think of themselves
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EldemadeDityjon said:
This is the best you can get regarding how Reatsu crush works. Grimmjow is captain class individual. Aizen crushes him. 1-3 is considered as Captain class take Grimmjow as class 3 and Aizen as 2. You can already see the layers.
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Yeah I already considered that and the best I got is 2- 3 layers. We no longer measure potency by numbers of victims, only by layers of resistance bypassed.
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
Yeah I already considered that and the best I got is 2- 3 layers. We no longer measure potency by numbers of victims, only by layers of resistance bypassed.
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I don't think you understand what I meant. Read the scan again there are 20 grades captain class has 1-3 grade rating. Soul crush works on Difference between Reatsu as far as I remember. So all this should be considered.

https://cdn.****************.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/bleach_oneshot_060.png
 
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