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Dead verse moment, am I right guys?
Part 1: Omnipotence and Ability Additions
Alien X is said to be omnipotent by numerous characters in the show. Does this mean he actually is? No, but it implies that we can upscale him from Ben's other aliens and give him abilities like Gravattack's Gravity Manipulation, Clockwork's Time Manipulation, and Ghostfreak's Soul Manipulation. He also recreated an exact replica of the universe which contains these aliens as well, so even if you don't think Alien X has these abilities, he can create beings with these abilities.
After the entire universe was destroyed, Alien X was still completely fine in a completely empty void. This means that he resists Void Manipulation. There's also proof that it's a void with Maltruant being unable to use his powers in the final episode and Rook stating that they wouldn't work because there's "no time to manipulate".
Part 2: "There are only 26 dimensions that matter" (If this wasn't in Fun and Games I'd probably be banned right now)
In this scene, the Naljian states that there are only 26 dimensions that matter. The Ben 10 Time Stream is Low 1-C due to being created by the Contumelia, who are 5-Dimensional beings. The Naljian also states that she was on an afternoon excursion to the lower dimensions.
Even though this was brought up once, this statement still has some weight to it. The Contumelia stated that their forcefield was impossible to breach or turn off, yet a fraction of Alien X's DNA bypassed it. Meaning that Alien X isn't a flat "Low 1-C", but "At least Low 1-C" and likely higher. The Forge of Creation also exists separately from the main time stream, proving that the Low 1-C time stream isn't all there is in Ben 10's verse.
Ignoring the writer statements, Azmuth and Professor Paradox have stated that Alien X has the strongest power in the universe, but this most likely means the Ben 10 verse as a whole. There's also an implication that Azmuth knows about the Contumelia. In this scene, he says "I say let the Omnitrix self-destruct and take the universe with it! Best thing that could happen, probably. Start fresh". This is an implication that he knows the universe will be recreated, and therefore knows about the existence of the Contumelia because he knows that they will recreate the universe at some point and "start fresh". Even aliens like Rook have heard stories about how the Contumelia can destroy and create universes. If Azmuth knows about the Contumelia, yet still says that Alien X has the strongest power in the verse, then Alien X is 6-D and still possibly higher.
With all of that being said, Ben 10 as a whole is at least 1-B and likely higher.
Also, since Alien X is Low 1-C, being susceptible to Absorption shouldn't be a weakness on his profile since Aggregor's entire plan and attempt most likely just wouldn't have worked at all due to Alien X being 5 or 6-Dimensional, so that can be removed.
Part 3: Badly Cropped Screenshots
Alien X is everywhere and nowhere at the same time. This counts as Nigh-Omnipresence
In this comic which is apparently canon, there are "beings from an incalculable dimension that defies the limits of space and time". Infinite dimensional beings get the High 1-B tier here, so if Alien X is superior to even these beings, then that most likely means he's Low 1-A due to upscaling.
I could go on, but I really don't want to and this thread's probably just going to get drowned out by all the other ones. So if anyone's reading this, I hope you have a good day
Part 1: Omnipotence and Ability Additions
Alien X is said to be omnipotent by numerous characters in the show. Does this mean he actually is? No, but it implies that we can upscale him from Ben's other aliens and give him abilities like Gravattack's Gravity Manipulation, Clockwork's Time Manipulation, and Ghostfreak's Soul Manipulation. He also recreated an exact replica of the universe which contains these aliens as well, so even if you don't think Alien X has these abilities, he can create beings with these abilities.
After the entire universe was destroyed, Alien X was still completely fine in a completely empty void. This means that he resists Void Manipulation. There's also proof that it's a void with Maltruant being unable to use his powers in the final episode and Rook stating that they wouldn't work because there's "no time to manipulate".
Part 2: "There are only 26 dimensions that matter" (
In this scene, the Naljian states that there are only 26 dimensions that matter. The Ben 10 Time Stream is Low 1-C due to being created by the Contumelia, who are 5-Dimensional beings. The Naljian also states that she was on an afternoon excursion to the lower dimensions.
Even though this was brought up once, this statement still has some weight to it. The Contumelia stated that their forcefield was impossible to breach or turn off, yet a fraction of Alien X's DNA bypassed it. Meaning that Alien X isn't a flat "Low 1-C", but "At least Low 1-C" and likely higher. The Forge of Creation also exists separately from the main time stream, proving that the Low 1-C time stream isn't all there is in Ben 10's verse.
Ignoring the writer statements, Azmuth and Professor Paradox have stated that Alien X has the strongest power in the universe, but this most likely means the Ben 10 verse as a whole. There's also an implication that Azmuth knows about the Contumelia. In this scene, he says "I say let the Omnitrix self-destruct and take the universe with it! Best thing that could happen, probably. Start fresh". This is an implication that he knows the universe will be recreated, and therefore knows about the existence of the Contumelia because he knows that they will recreate the universe at some point and "start fresh". Even aliens like Rook have heard stories about how the Contumelia can destroy and create universes. If Azmuth knows about the Contumelia, yet still says that Alien X has the strongest power in the verse, then Alien X is 6-D and still possibly higher.
With all of that being said, Ben 10 as a whole is at least 1-B and likely higher.
Also, since Alien X is Low 1-C, being susceptible to Absorption shouldn't be a weakness on his profile since Aggregor's entire plan and attempt most likely just wouldn't have worked at all due to Alien X being 5 or 6-Dimensional, so that can be removed.
Part 3: Badly Cropped Screenshots
Alien X is everywhere and nowhere at the same time. This counts as Nigh-Omnipresence
In this comic which is apparently canon, there are "beings from an incalculable dimension that defies the limits of space and time". Infinite dimensional beings get the High 1-B tier here, so if Alien X is superior to even these beings, then that most likely means he's Low 1-A due to upscaling.
I could go on, but I really don't want to and this thread's probably just going to get drowned out by all the other ones. So if anyone's reading this, I hope you have a good day
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