The Batter fights another Zone Guardian (Sonic the Hedgehog vs The Batter) (3-0-0)

[Spilxson2]

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Adventure Era Sonic vs End-Game Batter

Starting distance is 50 meters

Speed is equalized

Battle takes place in an empty field

Both are 4-C

Who wins?

Sonic the Hedgehog: XxZetsuxX, noninho, GlaceonGamez471

The Batter:

Inconclusive:

 

[Spilxson2]

Bump

 

[XxZetsuxX]

What does batter start with?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Based on the profile, Batter will just get speedblitzed with 346x amps and outhaxed, He doesn't have anything that catches my attention

 

[Spilxson2]

Based on the profile, Batter will just get speedblitzed with 346x amps and outhaxed, He doesn't have anything that catches my attention

I don't think he's exactly going to get one shot. There's also the fact that Sonic has to fight four 4-C opponents at once who can all heal and resurrect themselves. One has durability negation and another has statistics reduction

 

[Spilxson2]

Reading the title again, Knuckles probably would've been a better opponent

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I don't think he's exactly going to get one shot. There's also the fact that Sonic has to fight four 4-C opponents at once who can all heal and resurrect themselves. One has durability negation and another has statistics reduction

He can dodge everything with Higher reaction speed, Time break, Also has his own ressurection, Can one shot everyone here with Ichikoro gauge, They will get speedblitzed to hell without being able to fight back with 346x amps where he starts with that

 

[Spilxson2]

He can dodge everything with Higher reaction speed, Time break, Also has his own ressurection, Can one shot everyone here with Ichikoro gauge, They will get speedblitzed to hell without being able to fight back with 346x amps where he starts with that

How is Ichikoro gauge a one shot?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

How is Ichikoro gauge a one shot?

In Sonic battle there is a Green bar, That when it gets at 100%, It will just straight up one shot

 

[Spilxson2]

In Sonic battle there is a Green bar, That when it gets at 100%, It will just straight up one shot

Does it one shot everybody? Can't the Batter and his add-ons still just resurrect themselves?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Does it one shot everybody? Can't the Batter and his add-ons still just resurrect themselves?

Ichikoro gauge doesn't negate immo

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Also yes, It one shots people comparable to Sonic

 

[Spilxson2]

Also yes, It one shots people comparable to Sonic

Wouldn't that make him High 4-C then?

Ichikoro gauge doesn't negate immo

It's resurrection via abilities. I was asking if it would one shot all 4 of them at once

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Wouldn't that make him High 4-C then?

I don't know, Calcs are not up to me since i don't understand how that works XD

It's resurrection via abilities.

If they don't activate their immo then it's bye bye

I was asking if it would one shot all 4 of them at once

If the attack hits the 4 of them then yeah

 

[Spilxson2]

I don't know, Calcs are not up to me since i don't understand how that works XD

I thought someone needed to be 6x stronger to one shot. The gap between 4-C and High 4-C is 5.59x so if that's the case then Sonic should be High 4-C

If they don't activate their immo then it's bye bye

Does Sonic resist Statistics Reduction? What if I gave the Batter prior knowledge of all of Sonic's abilities so that he'd try to do something like Blind him first?

If the attack hits the 4 of them then yeah

Does it hit every single enemy in the game though?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I thought someone needed to be 6x stronger to one shot. The gap between 4-C and High 4-C is 5.59x so if that's the case then Sonic should be High 4-C

Wait, I made a mistake, This is 4-C, Presumably Sonic adventure 1 right? Yeah Sonic doesn't have Ichikoro gauge this time, My bad

Does Sonic resist Statistics Reduction?

He doesn't

What if I gave the Batter prior knowledge of all of Sonic's abilities so that he'd try to do something like Blind him first?

Danger sense and Being able to sense incoming attacks

Does it hit every single enemy in the game though?

What i said above

 

[Spilxson2]

Wait, I made a mistake, This is 4-C, Presumably Sonic adventure 1 right? Yeah Sonic doesn't have Ichikoro gauge this time, My bad

Oh thank goodness. I just wanted to make sure this match is fair

He doesn't

Alright, that could work. I think the Batter's poison could possibly function differently from the kind of poison Sonic resists but I'm not sure

Danger sense and Being able to sense incoming attacks

Batter has an attack that hits every enemy. I don't think it'd one shot Sonic, but it'd definitely hit him

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

I thought someone needed to be 6x stronger to one shot. The gap between 4-C and High 4-C is 5.59x so if that's the case then Sonic should be High 4-C

7.5x, and that's specifically only for vs threads, not determining ratings

 

[Spilxson2]

7.5x, and that's specifically only for vs threads, not determining ratings

What do you mean by not determining ratings?

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

What do you mean by not determining ratings?

The last bullet point on the page I linked.

• This gap is strictly for versus debating purposes, and will not apply when attempting to derive the attack potency of a character based on a feat of one-shotting another character in his or her verse.

We can't rate Sonic's Ichikoro Gauge stuff as 7.5x his regular AP on his page, even if it one-shots dudes comparable to Sonic
...not that it matters in this discussion since 4-C Sonic doesn't have Ichikoro Gauge

 

[Spilxson2]

Alright I think that Batter has enough win conditions for this matchup to be fair then

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Alright I think that Batter has enough win conditions for this matchup to be fair then

What win conditions?

He will straight up get blitzed to hell since he can't react to 346x speed amp and if they keep ressurecting Sonic will just go for BFR

 

[Spilxson2]

What win conditions?

He will straight up get blitzed to hell since he can't react to 346x speed amp and if they keep ressurecting Sonic will just go for BFR

He has statistics reduction and numerous ways of healing. He can also blind sonic and one of his attacks hits every single enemy so I don't think Sonic can dodge it despite his speed amps. I also don't think Sonic resists Batter's Poison Manipulation, but I'm not an expert on poison resistance

 

[XxZetsuxX]

He has statistics reduction and numerous ways of healing.

Irrelevant when he pulls BFR

He can also blind sonic and one of his attacks hits every single enemy so I don't think Sonic can dodge it despite his speed amps.

How does that work? Is it homing or just spawns on the enemy?

I also don't think Sonic resists Batter's Poison Manipulation, but I'm not an expert on poison resistance

Sonic resists chemicals which counts as poison i think?

 

[Spilxson2]

Irrelevant when he pulls BFR

He doesn't immediately use that in character though, does he?

How does that work? Is it homing or just spawns on the enemy?

I'm not entirely sure, but I think it spawns on the enemy

Sonic resists chemicals which counts as poison i think?

Poison resistance can still differ a lot though, can't it? Someone who can resist poisonous gases will probably still be poisoned by something like a blue ring octopus or a venomous snake. Also there's Batter's durability negation and the fact that Sonic has to fight four 4-C opponents who won't be one shot despite the spin dash amp

 

[Spilxson2]

Do you want to vote for Sonic? I'm not voting for anyone yet, I'm just trying to make sure the matchup isn't a stomp

 

[XxZetsuxX]

He doesn't immediately use that in character though, does he?

He doesn't but if they keep getting revived he will eventually use it

I'm not entirely sure, but I think it spawns on the enemy

Then sure, I guess?

Poison resistance can still differ a lot though, can't it? Someone who can resist poisonous gases will probably still be poisoned by something like a blue ring octopus or a venomous snake. Also there's Batter's durability negation and the fact that Sonic has to fight four 4-C opponents who won't be one shot despite the spin dash amp

Aside from that skill you mentioned, They are not touching him

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Do you want to vote for Sonic? I'm not voting for anyone yet, I'm just trying to make sure the matchup isn't a stomp

Yeah

 

[Spilxson2]

He doesn't but if they keep getting revived he will eventually use it

Then sure, I guess?

Aside from that skill you mentioned, They are not touching him

Wouldn't they be able to hit Sonic if he's blinded though?

Yeah

Alright, counted

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Wouldn't they be able to hit Sonic if he's blinded though?

Danger sense says hi

 

[Spilxson2]

Danger sense says hi

There's still the attack that hits all enemies

 

[XxZetsuxX]

There's still the attack that hits all enemies

I know but aside from that one, Blinding him won't do anything

 

[Spilxson2]

I know but aside from that one, Blinding him won't do anything

It won't even stop him for a few seconds?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

It won't even stop him for a few seconds?

It will probably, But as soon as danger senses kicks in he will dodge

 

[Spilxson2]

It will probably, But as soon as danger senses kicks in he will dodge

There's the other attack that he can't dodge though

 

[XxZetsuxX]

There's the other attack that he can't dodge though

Does he start with that combo though?

 

[Spilxson2]

Does he start with that combo though?

It's entirely dependent on what the player controlling him does

 

[Nonynho]

thought you liked the batter, why do him so badly lmfao

Sonic FRA

 

[XxZetsuxX]

It's entirely dependent on what the player controlling him does

Honestly, I doubt he even has the chance to do anything since Sonic relies on blitzing his opponents

They will just get mercilessly slaughtered over and over again till Sonic just pulls out BFR

 

[Spilxson2]

thought you liked the batter, why do him so badly lmfao

I do. I just thought that he'd have a fair chance since Sonic has to fight four 4-C opponents at once who he can't one shot and how that guy in the other thread said that his durability negation can one shot characters in the same tier.

Sonic FRA

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