Killerdrone123
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I mean time power users can use time power there
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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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But do did those Time Power uses manipulate time to use their power, or manipulate the power that created time.
Killerdrone123
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Goku is just to fast for aeos to a point that precog doesn't help her
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I predict a fight against Yhwach
Killerdrone123
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By using cc goku, yhwach would loose
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Really
Killerdrone123
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Manipulate power that created time I guess I am not sure tbh all I know time power is conceptual
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Time power comes from Time Energy that created and sustains Time itself
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A non-dimensional physiology lacks the very properties of a dimensional thing, so something that is non-dimensional purely due to it's superiority over dimensionality is 1-A. So the Afterlife which "transcends dimensions", would be on the "superiority" bit and not the "alienness" bit, the problem then lies in what dimensions in this context means.
Dimensions, as repeatedly used in both daizenshuu and Dragon Ball is a reference to realms and universes, however, if we assume dimensions here to be a reference to dimensionality as a whole, then the Afterlife would transcend them, and would definitely have no dimensional property. So it's between Low 1-C and 1-A, you can't really get any lower with a statement like that.
There is another translation however, that claims a superiority over dimensionality as a whole, which would obviously leave no room for interpretation and be a clear cut case of qualitative superiority, thus 1-A.
Dimensions, as repeatedly used in both daizenshuu and Dragon Ball is a reference to realms and universes, however, if we assume dimensions here to be a reference to dimensionality as a whole, then the Afterlife would transcend them, and would definitely have no dimensional property. So it's between Low 1-C and 1-A, you can't really get any lower with a statement like that.
There is another translation however, that claims a superiority over dimensionality as a whole, which would obviously leave no room for interpretation and be a clear cut case of qualitative superiority, thus 1-A.
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You just showed an image with nothing of scale for reference……i use it as a troll argument
(no one can refute it)
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At most those scans you showed are 4-5D, they only state transcendental to the living worlds dimensionality, nothing about it lacking dimensionality outright
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I was looking at episode 29, before a translation of the infinite expansion universe in the anime had appeared, but it seems like it's a bad translation, although here I could really have said that the Universe is infinite (if Akira Toriyama wanted to ), the universe is very big is mentioned several times in the anime, but we don't know how big it is.
I'm referring to this quote which is a bad translation
I'm referring to this quote which is a bad translation
Killerdrone123
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Look there are better chances of me becoming a billionaire then getting db to 1a using this arguments on vsbw
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She said her eyes couldn't follow him tho, same eyes were what she used her analytical technique through, implying that her precog itself failed completely
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1-A seems like a stretch, I understand that, my post wasn’t to say that it is undoubtedly 1-A eitherway. But there is no way that statement is any lower then Low 1-C.
If one were to interpret it as a transcendence of the dimensions that have been shown to exist, then that would be clear cut Low 1-C, if one is to interpret it as a transcendence over the realms below it, it would still be Low 1-C.
If one were to interpret it as a transcendence of the dimensions that have been shown to exist, then that would be clear cut Low 1-C, if one is to interpret it as a transcendence over the realms below it, it would still be Low 1-C.
Killerdrone123
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Interesting could be the case,but we can see goku has increased his speed followed by her quote that her eyes couldn't follow means she can't even see goku properly moreover react to him
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Saying your transcendent by being adimensional is not enough, additional context and explanation to prove it is to the sufficient quantitative level is needed.
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Was afterlife said to be adimensional ? I thought the guidebook just called it dimensionally transcendent?
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Gokuism >
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There is a mention where it is said that the other world lacks the concept of time, it is even mentioned in the manga.
Is that something related to this?
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If you are superior to something purely due to your non-dimensional nature, that is QS, that's something we know for certain, as that the character in question is superior to a things dimensions due to it not having the same properties that this things dimensions are dependent on, so that can't be assumed to be reachable by any additional dimensions. I believe you posted a quote of a section in Ultimas thread that constantly reaffirmed that.
I'm fine with seeing the Afterlife as transcendent over whatever dimensions have been shown to exist with the previous translation, though, and I do question why we don't already accept that as higher-D.
I'm fine with seeing the Afterlife as transcendent over whatever dimensions have been shown to exist with the previous translation, though, and I do question why we don't already accept that as higher-D.
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The scan does not say that in the other world there is no time in the literal sense.
It says that time is not a thing, since Goku has no time limit with SSJ3 unlike the living world (when he is dead)
I asked a colleague to translate it and I posted it here several days ago.
Killerdrone123
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Aren't we suppose to make a crt on hax layers for heroes
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Yes, but the amount of things someone would have to see is huge, manga/anime/games (xenoverse + DBH Missions)
And I doubt the majority here did.
But if you can, good luck.
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DB came a long way here...
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Nice, how many days ago was it? I want to see it xd
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Just leave that to the knowledgeable DBH users we’ve been working on it
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Goku is talking in the context of time being something that has an effect on the mortal world
Since in Afterlife, there is no risk of timeouts
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I'm a little confused, so going into ssj3 speeds up the time limit you have in the mortal world.
Goku is talking in the context of time being something that has an effect on the mortal world
Since in Afterlife, there is no risk of timeouts
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Isn't that obvious? When goku was dead and went to the living world he said that he had a time limit, ssj3 speeds up this time when used.
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Akira Toriyama also talks about Gods being transcendent
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Goku learned Ssj3 was it in heaven? I think if so, this would further explain that Heaven and the afterlife are separated by space-time, since there is kind of a need for there to be a space-time separating the Universe from the other
Goku is talking in the context of time being something that has an effect on the mortal world
Since in Afterlife, there is no risk of timeouts
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I was thinking that Senbei Norimaki should have a page in Battle Vs since she could be classified as "Super genius" in intelligence which would make Bulma also obtain such a level of intelligence since Senbei himself claims that she was smarter than him for creating the dragon radar.
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Even in cover he mentions that Buu can destroy the Universe
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So it Goku basically saying that the afterlife is unaffected by the flow of time in the living world?
Goku is talking in the context of time being something that has an effect on the mortal world
Since in Afterlife, there is no risk of timeouts
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I think there is enough information on this to at least try to scale DB saga Boo to 3-A, right?
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How can you read something simple and extrapolate it as much as possible?
The translator is saying that time has an effect in the mortal world, because Goku literally has a time limit to stay in the mortal world.
Seriously, just look at the translator's second sentence.
"Since in Afterlife, there is no risk of timeouts"
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I believe so, along with the manga materials
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It makes total sense
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Meaning it does not have an effect in the afterlife
Not sure how I "extrapolated" anything or what else that statement I'd supposed to imply
