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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

He should gain Regeneration Negation too tbf. Whis himself said there is nothing Beerus cannot destroy, which would imply erasing them forever because when he cannot erase someone forever because of regeneration (like Zamasu's case) he directly states he cannot destroy/kill them
 
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Killerdrone123 said:
Not gonna lie it is for the first time I am seeing a guy with ayanokoji profile pic wanking db otherwise in any other media I go I always see them downplaying the heck out of db you will hear them say shit like goku is multi galaxy at max
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no one's wanking lol if you genuinely believe db ain't outer then you don't know how the cosmos work ngl
 
AxilityIsReal said:
no one's wanking lol if you genuinely believe db ain't outer then you don't know how the cosmos work ngl
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Look I want db to reach outer we all do but with solid reasoning which cannot be debunkable by verse opponents I myself personally scale db to complex multi I know it would take more than this to scale dragon ball that high here
 
CryoTheMayo said:
Subspace isn't in the Macrocosm. It's stated to exist outside of the diagram of the macrocosm in guidebooks.

"Also, there are subspaces that don't belong anywhere in the world depicted in [Fig.1].Figure 1 (図1) refers to the standard diagram of the Macrocosm."

"It is a different dimensional world that does not belong to any part of the world, and includes the "Room of Spirit and Time"
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This is wrong, and intellectual dishonesty. The actual scans don't say "there are subspaces that don't belong anywhere in the world depicted kn figure 1", but it only says that the subspace isn't a place that belongs to any of the realms shown in the previous page which aren't even the actual macrocosm LOL, but only 1-2 realms... that is NOT a defeater for subspaces being in the macrocosm, and also the macrocosm isn't a single space time continuum. HTC is also in the macrocosm.

Frieza not being affected by granola's wish isn't evidence of what you say, because his wish only applies to the living world, which is a space time continuum separated from others, that is not a defeater of having multiple space time continuums in the macrocosm
 
Vietthai96 said:
Yes, only World Mission is release globally and have PC version (idk if there is console one though, since i don't bother with console)
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I thought World Mission was just an "arc" but in the game you can do several missions, including some from Universe Mission
 
Phsccarvalho said:
I thought World Mission was just an "arc" but in the game you can do several missions, including some from Universe Mission
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World Mission is a Mission on its own, but the developers also include Dark Demon Realm Mission and some early Universe Mission, cause World Mission released at the time Universe Mission release iirc, also, the main story of World Mission deviate from Dark Empire Saga
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
Going by what Hakai is accepted now as, it can just erase one's body and soul. High Godly, regardless the level, covers that
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Does Dr mashirito also have high godly?

Also, when exactly do you guys want to star the EE update? I think it's been long enough since db got tier 1 to start
 
CryoTheMayo said:
Alright so to iterate my logic/understanding here:
  • According to older guidebooks, Subspace is not connected to the Living World or Afterlife (via the original definition of 'macrocosm')
  • There is no indication that it's connected to the Kaioshin Realm
  • Sugoroku Space and the Time Chambers exist in Subspace
  • We know it can be reached by being dropped mid-teleport from the Living World to Kaioshin Realm
  • From Freeza we can tell that the Time Chamber is not considered as part of the 'universe' (whether that means the Living World or Universe 7 itself we can't say)
And the possible structure for universes that I'm seeing here is roughly:
Universe Bubble (Universe (Subspace, Kaioshin Realm, Living World + Afterlife))

So the two interpretations are:
  1. The Subspace is not part of Universe 7 because it has no connection to the Afterlife or Living World and no known connection to the Kaioshin Realm. Goku arrived in Sugoroku Space from Kibito Kai dropping him mid-teleport from the Living World to Kaioshin Realm and Freeza being in a Time Chamber exempted him from the 'strongest in the universe' wish.
  2. Universe 7 is actually much larger than we can quantify because it contains the Subspace in addition to the Living World + Afterlife and Kaioshin Realm.
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TheGodOfICE777 said:
The subspace is always stated to be between dimensions in guides; in the show. Executor translated the subspace scan for us and it was said that the subspace isn’t shown in figure 1. Figure 1 depicts the macrocosm and that the subspace was between those dimensions of the macrocosm. The subspace definitely is apart of the macrocosm structure.

The time chamber doesn’t account for the entire macrocosm it only accounts for the Living World. The Oracle fish makes a prophecy of the strongest person in Universe 7 and it doesn’t refer to Granolah. Even though, Granolah wished to be the strongest in the Universe.

Also, please don’t tell me this is about that one RoSaT argument. That argument is really iffy and if we extrapolate it it’s not even consistent to the series to argue it’s that durable.
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So what can we gather here

Would this affect GT Goku’s destruction of Sugoro Space feat?

Would this buff the Dimension of Swirling Lights
 
Jaakor48 said:
Also, when exactly do you guys want to star the EE update? I think it's been long enough since db got tier 1 to start
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I think you're calmer.

But whoever wants to do it, I don't know, post a draft here first in sandbox format. To see if anyone else can help.

And as it is something related to tier 1, try to see this draft with a staff member who has already participated in DB tier 1, to get approval from the beginning.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
I think you're calmer.

But whoever wants to do it, I don't know, post a draft here first in sandbox format. To see if anyone else can help.

And as it is something related to tier 1, try to see this draft with a staff member who has already participated in DB tier 1, to get approval from the beginning.
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I don't particularly care about Beerus winning something. But if you want it that much...
 
AwkguyDB said:
So what can we gather here

Would this affect GT Goku’s destruction of Sugoro Space feat?

Would this buff the Dimension of Swirling Lights
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Well, any lore we get on Time Chambers in the future will directly impact our perception on Subspace so we should keep a close eye on that. I personally believe the Dimension of Swirling Lights is probably part of Subspace so it might make it applicable.

The thing is, if Subspace really is part of Universe 7 then that means Goku and Beerus' feat directly scales up the more we learn about Subspace, since it would mean they were destroying the Dimension of Swirling Lights, the Time Chambers, Sugoroku Space, etc along with the Afterlife, Living World and Kaioshin Realm.

Even if it were argued that their fight only threatened the Living World + Afterlife and Kaioshin Realm, that could still easily be used for Zeno and Super Shenron, SDBH or even Beerus vs Champa risking multiple universes.

However, I have the impression that entering the Swirling Lights dimension was something only possible by the level of SS1 Gogeta and Broly clashing. So if SSG Goku was threatening that dimension that starts to feel circular. Unless, of course, the Subspace isn't part of Universe 7 or Goku vs Beerus didn't actually threaten the entirety of Universe 7, just the Kaioshin Realm + AL + LW.
 
CryoTheMayo said:
However, I have the impression that entering the Swirling Lights dimension was something only possible by the level of SS1 Gogeta and Broly clashing. So if SSG Goku was threatening that dimension that starts to feel circular. Unless, of course, the Subspace isn't part of Universe 7 or Goku vs Beerus didn't actually threaten the entirety of Universe 7, just the Kaioshin Realm + AL + LW.
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Or you could simply say they both slip there ki control which lead to breaking of reality since broly was in rage mode and gogeta was just getting used to the fusion power
 
Killerdrone123 said:
Or you could simply say they both slip there ki control which lead to breaking of reality since broly was in rage mode and gogeta was just getting used to the fusion power
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Maybe. Either way the Subspace stuff should have potential for either:
  • Upgrading the SSG Goku feat (Presuming they were threatening Subspace within Universe 7)
  • Upgrading feats from Beerus vs Champa, Zeno, Super Shenron, SDBH (Presuming Goku was only threatening AL, LW and Kaioshin Realm and not Subspace within U7)
  • Adding Subspace as a dimension completely separate from the universes, expanding the cosmology further for SDBH, Zeno and Super Shenron (presuming Subspace exists completely outside of Universe 7)
 
Fezzih_007 said:
Check It.
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A very controvsersial AP upgrade thread for Dragon Ball

As established in previous threads, the worlds of Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball are one and the same, and that the canons of the Dr. Slump anime and manga are the as well, with the establishment that the Earth and the Solar System is much larger than our own. This thread will be used to look at...
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This was the biggest disagreement about DB to date from team members,at least 5 or 6 appeared, next time you should think hard about creating something.
 
I rarely see anything like that, normally calculations take months to be approved, so anyway it seems like they didn't accept it
 
Oh my god, we really have to create a crt to show that DB doesn't scale to Dr slump, because this will continue infinitely

And once again, for the love of God, don't try to make Beerus 5D or anything related, Beerus won't scale to anything and that.
 
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I saw 4-B Saiyan Saga Vegeta and fell out of my chair.
Then I saw 3-B Cell and the angels took me away.
Absurdly based, but... No.
 
Fezzih_007 said:
Check It.
vsbattles.com

A very controvsersial AP upgrade thread for Dragon Ball

As established in previous threads, the worlds of Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball are one and the same, and that the canons of the Dr. Slump anime and manga are the as well, with the establishment that the Earth and the Solar System is much larger than our own. This thread will be used to look at...
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What's the episode of the 4 billion kilometers thing?
 
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