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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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Also I just realized that because its a galactic nebula it may actually be quite large and contain a lot of stars in it. according to esahubble.com, planetary nebulae are on average 1 lightyear in size. However since this is referred to as a galactic nebula its likely far larger and possibly more like a dwarf galaxy
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@Ryzen7900X Don't bother making a thread for it, it's a translation error; https://vsbattles.com/threads/solar-system-in-dragon-ball.146180/#post-5301556
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I can tell without looking its gonna be Herm's tweet. unfortunately Herms was actually wrong here. Null post the raw here so its probably best to have it evaluated by Executor too
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I didn't know that, but it sounded wrong anyway
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If you guys want to do anything with the Nebula statement is better you get a different translation supported by In-wiki translators
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DBZ Majin Buu Small Addition
So in chapter 518 of DBZ (basically the 2nd last chapter of DBZ), Majin Buu is able to use his magic to manipulate the lottery for the Budokai Tournament so that Goku will pick #3 and Uub will pick #4 while others will pick different numbers except for 3 & 4. As such, Majin Buu should get...
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someone send me this which is even worse than codex wiki
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Frieza
Whis vastly being above Beerus+Goku+Vegeta. Beerus vastly being above Goku+Vegeta. Over confidence in combat depends mostly on his self claimed abilities. Goku's God Form Vegeta's God Form Transcendence (Evolutionary Form) Transformations Body Modifications Energy based attacks Berserk strength...
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I found this video that's going on about the tlDBZ Majin Buu Small Addition
So in chapter 518 of DBZ (basically the 2nd last chapter of DBZ), Majin Buu is able to use his magic to manipulate the lottery for the Budokai Tournament so that Goku will pick #3 and Uub will pick #4 while others will pick different numbers except for 3 & 4. As such, Majin Buu should get...vsbattles.com
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Cool renders, but...someone send me this which is even worse than codex wiki
Frieza
Whis vastly being above Beerus+Goku+Vegeta. Beerus vastly being above Goku+Vegeta. Over confidence in combat depends mostly on his self claimed abilities. Goku's God Form Vegeta's God Form Transcendence (Evolutionary Form) Transformations Body Modifications Energy based attacks Berserk strength...
Yikes.
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Does Goku downscale from Gohan in any way? Because if not, then being >2.6325 Foe in base makes Gohan ~257.283753x more powerful than Super Saiyan Goku.
Unless, for some reason, Goku downscales from Perfect Cell.
Unless, for some reason, Goku downscales from Perfect Cell.
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it is. Cell, Buu and even Frieza have so many statements of cosmic destruction it almost warrants MFTL+ travel speed for them. Im still of the mind that Guru and everyone stronger than him scales to the dragon ball's intergalactic travel speed. There is virtually no exception to the fact that the dragon balls shouldnt be capable of a feat their own creator's ki isnt potent enough to do (provided they have the ability as Kami had creation ability to remake the moon) and speed is no exceptionngl this shit is so goofy
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nice work! its like 10x lower than large planet level. This combined with the fact that planet vegeta had 10X earth's gravity meaning much higher mass than just 10X that of earth would probably bump the calc back to or very close to small star level
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Inherently, Gohan is kind-natured and gentlehearted, which subconsciously inhibits the power he can output at any given time because of either an innate fear or an innate desire to preserve all life, even the lives of evil individuals like Cell; when his emotions spike, though, he loses control, and the power he keeps suppressed is unleashed.
Base Gohan should downscale from Super Saiyan 2 Gohan.
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it says faster than light tho
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The namekian dragon balls speed far surpasses both
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When were the Super Dragon Balls stated to be smaller than an average planet, and,—forgive my ignorance,—why would they have a GBE if they aren't celestial bodies?
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Oh, and, apparently, the Super Exciting Guide's Training section, which was supervised by Toriyama, reads: "Goku thought that Gohan, who had a gentle heart, was not able to demonstrate his true strength in battle.", "After awakening, Gohan exploded the super power he created with Goku to its limit and saved the Earth!!", and "After awakening, Gohan exploded the super power he created with Goku to its limit and saved the Earth!!"
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Piccolo Profile Split (Dragon Ball)
This is long-overdue after the splitting of Frieza's profile last year but I decided to finally get around to proposing that Piccolo's profile be split between his Dragon Ball Z appearances and his Dragon Ball Super appearances. Ten keys is far too many for a single profile. Here are the...
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Champa states that they are "almost as big as planets", that almost part is a key point because if he had just said that they're as big as planets then this calc would be wrong
thats not the point of the calc and they do seen have a gravitational field (given their mass) if you've seen how the nameless planet formed
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I liked the newcomer, he reminds me of Hades who was really funny, good times...
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That doesn't necessarily imply that they're smaller than planets though. If you a guy who was 170 cm tall and another guy who was 180 cm tall, you could say that the second guy is "almost the same size as the first guy".
There are also planets that factually have a bigger size than the Super Dragon Balls anyway like Neptune, Uranus, etc.
Nowhere is it implied that places like Namek or Planet Vegeta are bigger or comparable in size to the Super Dragon Balls.
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My bad, I forgot to add the link, added it. I however calculated the planets using the same size as the SDBs as a conservative estimate.
A celestial object is basically any object outside the Earth's atmosphere, as for GBE, this is based on their size, everything has gravity, at a certain size, a celestial objects gravity causes it to be spherical, which is why planets and stars are shaped that way
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no this is a flawed example. The key context here is that champa has been a destroyer god for eons and although even lazier than Beerus he has definitely traveled across the universe, seen and destroyed his fair share of planets. so when he compares a celestial objects and says that it is almost (but not quite) as large as planets (the only assumption here is that he's referring to an average planet predicated on his status as an old destroyer since no other assumption would really make sense, and no one else disagreed with him) it necessarily means that those planets are still bigger than the dragon balls. Its pretty clear cut logic the only "leap of faith" (which it really isnt) is if you trust champa enough to be knowledgeable about the size of an average planet
yeah but that doesnt really contradict anything
they're a good estimate of an "average" planet in dragon ball universe. they're never stated to be extremely large but they're never referred to as a small planet like Earth has been
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I imagine he's using the implication from Champa. Champa says they are almost the size of a planet, which would technically inherently mean they must be by some UNKNOWN/UNQUANTIFIABLE (BIG EMPHASIS HERE) extent smaller than a Planet. Though how relevant that is, is up to your own milage, I think.
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It's impossible to know how much smaller, much safer to instead assume they are equal and get a conservative value for both methods
Both methods have very similar values, that were just 1.4x apart anyway
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People are pretty smart in here. I read both sides of the argument and I am convinced by both of them. 
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And that’s not mentioning the possibility that the Sun of Dragon Ball is bigger
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nah it seems like a G-sequence star in all its depictions so its probably around the same size as ours. Still it doesnt really matter as far as 4-A cell goes
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GBE of an Average Dragon Ball Panet
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