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eh i don't see this being viable to use
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Death Battle Season Ten Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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I think Hulk will win due to occam's razor.
Much simpler to just use 616 Marvel scaling and their cosmology to justify the win, then it is to use Big G's crossovers, comics, films, novels, face-value statements, deviating iterations, dubious canon, and everything in between to have Goji take the W.
You have to really make Godzilla into some media hodgepodge monstrosity to have a chance against the Hulk. And even then Hulk probably still wins.
So yeah, safely betting Hulk, but I'll be rooting for the Big G.
Much simpler to just use 616 Marvel scaling and their cosmology to justify the win, then it is to use Big G's crossovers, comics, films, novels, face-value statements, deviating iterations, dubious canon, and everything in between to have Goji take the W.
You have to really make Godzilla into some media hodgepodge monstrosity to have a chance against the Hulk. And even then Hulk probably still wins.
So yeah, safely betting Hulk, but I'll be rooting for the Big G.
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Highball Godzilla definitely ***** on Hulk from what I've seen from both. Godzilla has Twin Peaks and comp. RPG scaling and if you goon around Marvel you can have him stomping Hulk quite literally as it happened once. Plus they'd have to somehow get a reasonable argument for get Hulk scaling to Marvel's whole cosmology, something that didn't happened in Hulk vs. Broly. And Ben has been really confident regarding Godzilla (especially due to Singular Point and Godzilla In Hell), I can see either a Godzilla W or a draw, which would be the most acceptable outcome according to many peeps in DB server.
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Huh?
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Wasnt it said Hulk wasnt mad enough when it happened? Plus thats old at this point, Hulk had much more stuff going later since then in terms of power
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Happened in Armadillo Droppings (it's an official release by the way). He also beat up the AD&D, Cthulhu, the Death Star, the Borg, Superman, and Wolverine.
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It wasn't, it was just a frame on Hulk being stuck on Godzilla's footprint after he was stomped, probably just for the funny.
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Then yeah, this MU is good, she's still lose tho because of Bleach haxes but still
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Hulk says he wasnt angry enough and given Hulk power differs depending on rage, Godzilla prolly stomped on a weaker Hulk
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Only viable thing would be how he matched Thor but i doubt they will count it nowadays even so that just means Godzilla = Savage Hulk
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Still better than Odinforce hype statement.
By the way, there is a draft of how composite Godzilla profile would be if the composite rule wasn't a thing, it still lacks a lot of stuff but it is a good start. Kudos to @Apex_Predator_GX.
By the way, there is a draft of how composite Godzilla profile would be if the composite rule wasn't a thing, it still lacks a lot of stuff but it is a good start. Kudos to @Apex_Predator_GX.
Accelerated_Evolution
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Accelerated_Evolution
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Does Godzilla has any Tier 1 version that ins´t related to the Singular Point novel or the crossovers?
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To legitimately answer your question? I've heard that Heisei Godzilla has some 5-D arguments at the end of that particular era, but that's just it: arguments. There's probably some versions of Godzilla out there with Tier 1 metas to them, but I think SP Godzilla is the most popular and most known one by far.
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Godzilla in Hell Godzilla (leading Twitter questions Edition)
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Godzilla In Hell (mostly for WoG), Super Robot Wars if you use extended scaling, Monster Strike, Heisei if you get all of his best stuff.
Edit: Two of these are crossovers, my bad.
XSOULOFCINDERX
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Pretty sure the Dragon Quest Crossover was like Tier 2 at bare minimum alongside that one Magic something or other game that had Monsterverse Goji and Kong in it.
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Yeah, Dragon Quest had a Godzilla campaign, and MonsterVerse had Magic Domain scaling. Shin had Battle Cats. Earth had Grand Summoners and Eternal Linkage.
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Anyways here's my personal take on Godzilla vs Hulk:
I for one will be voting for the big G to win since, compared to the pair of them, is my favorite character and I have personal attachments to Godzilla. However, from Death Battle's point of view, I can honestly see Hulk winning more times than Godzilla since his higher end scaling is a lot...easier to justify since, unlike Godzilla, a lot of it comes from the comics themselves and not crossovers. And while Godzilla did fight the Earth-616 Avengers, including the Hulk, I think you could argue that Hulk has gotten significantly more powerful since the 1960's.
I don't know I guess I just personally see Hulk winning more times than Godzilla does due to it being a safer bet.
I for one will be voting for the big G to win since, compared to the pair of them, is my favorite character and I have personal attachments to Godzilla. However, from Death Battle's point of view, I can honestly see Hulk winning more times than Godzilla since his higher end scaling is a lot...easier to justify since, unlike Godzilla, a lot of it comes from the comics themselves and not crossovers. And while Godzilla did fight the Earth-616 Avengers, including the Hulk, I think you could argue that Hulk has gotten significantly more powerful since the 1960's.
I don't know I guess I just personally see Hulk winning more times than Godzilla does due to it being a safer bet.
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I think even if we go for higher scaling for Hulk (which I don't agree with in all honesty), he still has no way of perma-killing Godzilla, which is definitely needed for his W. Hulk lacks the range to affect Godzilla entirely and is pretty much outhaxxed (I forgot why Broly could get through the Green Door immortality back then, that feels wrong but it's just me). Which is why I believe a draw would be the most reasoning outcome, that is also shared with most of the people at Death Battle server.
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Although it's a bit funny for a few people seeing this episode as a way for "redeeming" Hulk in the show when the match-up is more debatable than it seems (would be hilarious to see a 0-3 again). Like when people though Vader vs. Obito would do Anakin justice when it definitely didn't.
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Thats a lot....
Excellence616
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Why? Thor and Hulk have been rivals for 60 years and the comic prove so.
Keyword "House of Ideals had to offer".
Why don't you agree with Bulk higher scaling? Too big for his level or doesn't make sense?
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Hulk takes even months to return from death like the time hawkeye killed him with the special arrow and needs a piece of himself to return to begin with
Because Broly by their multipliers and scaling he was thousands to millions of times above even World Breaker (with SSJ3 after god form became goku base being above WB) it made Hulk unable to win to a big gap like this
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That comic is not from the old times. I'm not against Thor and Hulk scaling each other at their full, but the current reasoning from the profile is a hype-statement from the comic's cover, something that can't even be compared to Godzilla's case as that was said in the comic.
Yes, which means High 1-A
I think the current reasonings (mostly for Odinforce Thor being "all-out" against Hulk) could be stronger. A hype statement from a cover doesn't mean that much and we all know how Thor holds back for most of the time even against Hulk in a few occasions. It's like scaling Legendary or Shin to Tier 4/2 over hype statements of them being the most powerful iteration of the character so far.
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Huh, I see, but then why they had Hulk returning almost instantly from decapitation? Was it for just for the sake of showcasing the ability or something.
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Godzilla in Hell is one of the few characters who can give Kratos a run for his money in relation to wanked WOG statements
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Still find it funny they walked back that scaling
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Tbf Hulk regens from beheading which they shown a scan of him dismembered including head in jars, its more about dying and returning from death
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After Thor vs Hulk and many more other marvel MUs, they cant be rivalled much unless with DC
Excellence616
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Banner was depowered at that very moment.
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Say it to them, they claimed it as such on ressurection
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Ngl this image radiates coping from Hulk lmao
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Can we all agree Hulk vs Broly was complete cap
Like in no feasible reality would Hulk lose to a DBZ character who hasn't even gotten to Tier 1 even with how DB scales them
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Within HulkBroly they specified Hulk needed to be completely destroyed, then his Green Door resurrection wouldnt immediately heal them. And iirc in Immortal Hulk, they didnt show him getting regenned from 100% destruction.
HulkBroly was fine until comic fans threw a hissy fit and now modern VS is dumb because they no longer punish consistency. Raven beat Phoenix because of you.
HulkBroly was fine until comic fans threw a hissy fit and now modern VS is dumb because they no longer punish consistency. Raven beat Phoenix because of you.
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******* this^^^
comic stans/cultists got pissy over DB not going all in on the stats which cause this shitshow that is modern comic debates to be in the state that is in
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