Adam vs Superman (Hazbin Hotel vs My Adventures With Superman)

[ShionAH]

Superman vs Adam

Speed is equal, both at their peak, battle takes place in Hell. Adam has Immo 5

Dickmaster:
Kal-El:
Inconclusive:​

 

[StarShooter80]

I agree with the CRT, the proposal is pretty straight forward

 

[Dalesean027]

Agreed with the proposed changes, reminds me to actually apply the crt for MAWS when I'm home

 

[Pepsimanslover]

I have never seen a CRT with such quality! Obviously agree.

 

[ShionAH]

I'll call staff so we can add this

I just watched S1 of MAWS and saw that they are both 7-A! Thats why I made this CRT

 

[DaReaperMan]

Who's "Adam (Hazbin Hotel) l"?

 

[ShionAH]

Fixed

 

[Dalesean027]

Not to be that guy as well but what would Superman's wincon here even be when this guy has like 4 types of immortality and has invulnerablity unless harmed by certain sources

 

[ShionAH]

Not to be that guy as well but what would Superman's wincon here even be when this guy has like 4 types of immortality and has invulnerablity unless harmed by certain sources

Adam doesnt have invulnerablity here

 

[SlendVeny]

Not to be that guy as well but what would Superman's wincon here even be when this guy has like 4 types of immortality and has invulnerablity unless harmed by certain sources

I mean, if his body is completely destroyed, surely he would take a while to reform.

 

[Dalesean027]

Adam doesnt have invulnerablity here

Noted

I mean, if his body is completely destroyed, surely he would take a while to reform.

Superman wouldn't be trying to kill him in character and if he does take a long while to regenerate then that's not something that's said at all on the profile so I wouldn't know

 

[ShionAH]

Superman wouldn't be trying to kill him in character and if he does take a long while to regenerate then that's not something that's said at all on the profile so I wouldn't know

Adam doesnt have that strong Regeneration what are yall talking about, he only regenerated deep stab wounds

Adam is easily more skilled, he can regen while Supes cannot, Adam is somewhat more versatile and durable but Supes I think is generally stronger

 

[SlendVeny]

Hey... wait, the light the angels are made of? Is it at any point stated what kind of light that is?

 

[Dalesean027]

Adam is easily more skilled

Easily? His rating is above average same as Superman so where exactly is the easily coming from here?

Superman consistently fights enemies while being outnumbered in most cases and still comes out on top. He's also kept up with and matched Supergirl who was trained as a warrior by Brainiac since she was a child conquering many planets under his guidance, Brainiac being an A.I created by Krpyton for the sole purpose of leading the planet in its wars.

Outside of that Superman is Class T and should have no problem grappling and overpoweing this guy and he doesn't resist heat manip either so if Superman does use his heatvision here that alone could really seal the deal via sheer heat

And Superman does have the AP advantage here as well as he's 488.85 Megatons of TNT

 

[ShionAH]

"Pure Light" I assume its something beyond nature

 

[ShionAH]

Well Superman does not really have an explanation on his skill, Adam is also much more older and experienced. From what I remember in the show Superman generally gets outskilled and beat up, until the end where he mostly stops holding back and either one shot or easily beats the villian correct me if I am wrong but like Clark straight up says he is bad at fighting and never wanted to fight anyone anyways lol

Adam has shown being able to fight people who are able to summon Danmaku like Alastor (Gifted Battle Intelligence), slicing through all of Alastors attacks and dodging hordes of attacks and minions.

We are using Season 1 Clark so he still didn't meet Kara, I will say Superman is actually similar to Charlie due to both of them being inexperienced and not really being used to fighting and Adam also easily defeated here (even though she is very much comparable to him in power)

I also gotta say Adam's Holy Lights heat is exactly the same as Klarks which will actually make it so Adam can just keep blocking Supermans heat vision with his own Holy Light which gets way bigger than Supermans Heat Vision

Adam also has the range advantage by quite a lot

 

[Dalesean027]

Clark straight up says he is bad at fighting and never wanted to fight anyone anyways lol

Yeah this is never said at all?

From what I remember in the show Superman generally gets outskilled and beat up, until the end where he mostly stops holding back and either one shot or easily beats the villian

Not really outskilled ever just outnumbered and/or generally not wanting to fight them but ultimately is forced to and then wins usually

Adam has shown being able to fight people who are able to summon Danmaku like Alastor, slicing through all of Alastors attacks and dodging hordes of attacks and minions.

Clark has done the same numerous times?

We are using Season 1 Clark so he still didn't meet Kara, I will say Superman is actually similar to Charlie due to both of them being inexperienced and not really being used to fighting and Adam also easily defeated here (even though she is very much comparable to him in power)

True he hasn't met Supergirl yet but Clark hasn't exactly been doing any training or anything like that so him just being magically more skilled would be strange

also gotta say Adam's Holy Lights heat is exactly the same as Klarks which will actually make it so Adam can just keep blocking Supermans heat vision with his own Holy Light which gets way bigger than Supermans Heat Vision

Do you have a clip of him resisting that level of heat himself though?

 

[ShionAH]

Yeah this is never said at all?

I do remember Clark saying it. I am very certain but can't remember when. It was before fighting Dr. Ivos full form I think

Not really outskilled ever just outnumbered and/or generally not wanting to fight them but ultimately is forced to and then wins usually

Like I said most of his fights is Clark taking many damage and hits until he gets up and demolishes the opponent, I mean thats what I remember lol

Let me look at the fight scenes again. For example against Livewire he failed to dodge three cars that were thrown at him

Clark has done the same numerous times?

Yeah both have done it

True he hasn't met Supergirl yet but Clark hasn't exactly been doing any training or anything like that so him just being magically more skilled would be strange

He fights crime all the time, in Season 2 he would very much be way more skilled and experienced. You can't really use S2 evidence to argue for S1 Clark

Do you have a clip of him resisting that level of heat himself though?

He does not resists Heat, what I am saying is he is smart enough to realise Heat Vision is dangerous and just start spamming his Holy Light to both block it and attack Clark, which will not really be hard because Adam outranges

 

[ShionAH]

Oh shit wait Adam should resist it (heat) actually, I'll make a CRT on it and then we can continue depending if it get accepted or not?

 

[SlendVeny]

Using Adam's fights as evidence of his skill doesn't make sense because iirc he had 4, and:

1. vs Alastor: He won via superior power and speed, at oneshot levels, Alastor was actually making him put in effort despite being unable to harm him.
2. vs Pentious: Literal onetap
3. vs Charlie: Superior stats. He surprise attacked her into a sign that electrified her, then just used his superior AP and speed to win.
4. vs Lucifer: Got pieced up casually and immediately.

 

[ShionAH]

He won via superior power and speed, at oneshot levels, Alastor was actually making him put in effort despite being unable to harm him.

He was still dodging and taking out many danmaku and summonings at the same time.

Superior stats.

No

He surprise attacked her into a sign that electrified her

And Charlie then surprise attacked him and stabbed his shoulder so its even.

I didn't mention Lucifer nor Sir Pentious

 

[DaReaperMan]

We arguing about Adam's skill? Good, I wrote the sodding section.

Adam is a brute force fighter, his singular instance of outskilling anyone was Charlie... you know, the ******* pacifist? There's the fact he had to use things like TK to keep up even while he was casual with Alastor, which is where him being anything but a sledgehammer comes from.

If Supergirl is actually trained in combat, and Superman has been outnumbered by things he didn't just one-shot(friendly reminder Adam was BEING OVERWHELMED by Alastor summoning shit on him), then yes he 100% outskills Adam.

 

[Dalesean027]

I do remember Clark saying it. I am very certain but can't remember when. It was before fighting Dr. Ivos full form I think

dawg what are you on about Superman never says this ever? Anything involving Ivo is him saying he's just there to help and that he doesn't want to fight. He never says he doesn't know how.

Like I said most of his fights is Clark taking many damage and hits until he gets up and demolishes the opponent, I mean thats what I remember lol

Let me look at the fight scenes again. For example against Livewire he failed to dodge three cars that were thrown at him

The livewire just happens to be the first time he's ever fought another person with powers and his second actual big fight he's ever been in by this point. And even then with that one he does dodge one of the cars and is caught by the other but otherwise he's not outskilled at all here and I fail to see his him getting hit once here is this big anti-skill feat for him here early on lol.

like that's really bad to try and use as an anti-skill feat from something very circumstantial when in his first ever real fight wit his powers while weaker in the early parts of S1 he's effortlessly weaving around attacks, in his next fight after livewire he effortless handles Intergang as they are actually fighting. In his fight against parasite he's at a disadvantage since trying to harm Parasite at all makes his stronger no matter what his means of attack were so he was right away being outsped and overpowered by a superior foe yet he still deduced parasites weakness and was able to use that to his advantage to get a win over on him. There's many more examples in season 1 alone but my point is already made.

He does not resists Heat, what I am saying is he is smart enough to realise Heat Vision is dangerous and just start spamming his Holy Light to both block it and attack Clark, which will not really be hard because Adam outranges

he doesn't have prior knowledge here ya know and as far as I can see he doesn't have some kind of analysis ability to know what its effects are other than just being a blast so yeah no he shouldn't know its effects before Superman's first use to know that its something he needs to avoid.


Considering the other comments I'm inclined to say Superman takes this considering he's got the AP, LS, and Skill advantage on top of having attacks available to him that should instantly be able to do massive damage against Adam due to his lacks of resistances. This 7-A Superman would be him by the end of the first season when he's gotten all of that experience from everything prior so all of his best showings from this season would apply to him here

 

[ShionAH]

We are really pushing Clarks skill here... I'll pause this until the Crt is over

@Dalesean027 do I put you on Clark ?

 

[Dalesean027]

We are really pushing Clarks skill here... I'll pause this until the Crt is over

Not really, the statement you're saying Clark has about being a bad fighter literally doesn't exist. Anything you've been saying about his skill at all has been ignoring any circumstances involved. I've already mentioned everything with his first 3 battles in the series but if we really want to touch down and get full context for other fights as well we can do so but I can say if you're thinking these first 3 fights alone is overselling then I don't know what to tell you when there's 6 more episodes of fights in the first season that he performs much better in or have other circumstances involving them