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9th Strongest 5-D nonsmurf (Yang Kai vs Kratos)

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Livinmene chinaman misadventures continue, in this stupidly grandiose series of threads!
Speed equalized
Both at their strongest (Open heaven for yang, and Kratos being hepped by hope)
Courting death!!!



Now there is no hope

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Yang Kai...Dodge? Kratos isn't dante with his BS projectiles
I'm not being literal lol, the point is that any attack that lands on Yang Kai would just kill him. And between the time stop, power null and TK, among other things, he can manage to deal with that just fine.
 
I'm not being literal lol, the point is that any attack that lands on Yang Kai would just kill him. And between the time stop, power null and TK, among other things, he can manage to deal with that just fine.
What about Yang Acasuality type 3?
 
What about Yang Acasuality type 3?
This just becomes the same as those Xue Ying matches. Constant stompings that never end. I'd call that an incap but people can't seem to decide on that.
 
This just becomes the same as those Xue Ying matches. Constant stompings that never end. I'd call that an incap but people can't seem to decide on that.
Oh yeah, can Kratos deal with Yang 100+ layers of passive first? I know that they are only 3-d (which makes no ******* sense), but they could potentially make Yang win the match
 
Oh yeah, can Kratos deal with Yang 100+ layers of passive first? I know that they are only 3-d (which makes no ******* sense), but they could potentially make Yang win the match
If they're 3-D then they're irrelevant here. Unless he has something that Kratos doesn't resist at all and gets past Kratos' conceptual invulnerability.
 
If they're 3-D then they're irrelevant here.
Why does Kratos even have conceptual invulnerability, anwyays? Wasn't it removed by Fuji?
Not really, Kratos is still 3-D. Anyways here is a list of Yang Kai haxes that could potentially harm kratos, or mess up his game plan
If yang kai dies, then his past self is teleported into the future (upto 8000 years of time travel), aslong as the timeline exists, yang kai will never die, and I don't think Kratos has any way to deal with that type of immortality
After past Yang Kai sees his present self getting destroyed conceptually...LITERALLY, he will probably start to use spatial manipulation as a mean to counter Kratos weapons, this is specially good considering that he basically has gojo infinity in steroids
Yang kai is more or less able to embude his attacks with law manip destruction, due to the new changes of metaphyisicals standards, that would mean he should be able to harm Kratos due to him not resiting it (or at the very least, I didn't see any law manip in kratos profile).He also has conceptual manip along with it, but it doesn't matter because kratos own is stupidly layered. In the resistance part
He should be able to resist kratos TS (if not layered, of course)
He also has this passives but they are 3-D, so I don't think they should matter that much
Mind Manipulation, Madness Manipulation (Type 2: Immortal Ascension Masters can resist Yang Kai's Demonic qi that causes everyone in his vicinity to lose their minds and and attack each other[36])
 
Why does Kratos even have conceptual invulnerability, anwyays? Wasn't it removed by Fuji?
Not really, Kratos is still 3-D. Anyways here is a list of Yang Kai haxes that could potentially harm kratos, or mess up his game plan
He's 3-D with 5-D everything resistance, which was my main point.
If yang kai dies, then his past self is teleported into the future (upto 8000 years of time travel), aslong as the timeline exists, yang kai will never die, and I don't think Kratos has any way to deal with that type of immortality
I mean, doesn't this tie back into what I said. Either he self BFRs or just keeps dying so long as he shows up to the present.
After past Yang Kai sees his present self getting destroyed conceptually...LITERALLY, he will probably start to use spatial manipulation as a mean to counter Kratos weapons, this is specially good considering that he basically has gojo infinity in steroidshttps://imgur.com/a/so-close-yet-worlds-apart-9T8JhSU
Kratos has Infinite speed attacks though, if I'm understanding the Gojo comparison correctly.
Yang kai is more or less able to embude his attacks with law manip destruction, due to the new changes of metaphyisicals standards, that would mean he should be able to harm Kratos due to him not resiting it (or at the very least, I didn't see any law manip in kratos profile).He also has conceptual manip along with it, but it doesn't matter because kratos own is stupidly layered. In the resistance part
Kratos is protected by a Type 1 concept in body, mind, soul and concept so nebulously destroying a law wouldn't change much here. Kratos doesn't have a deeper law aspect in the way he has a concept or mind.

Also, he should resist the Furies' law hax but idk if I ever implemented that.
He should be able to resist kratos TS (if not layered, of course)
He does have Immeasurable lifting strength, so yeah, this tracks.
 
I mean, doesn't this tie back into what I said. Either he self BFRs or just keeps dying so long as he shows up to the present.
What? The shadow technique is pulling himself from the past, when the present one dies, he isn't self BFRing himself, and Kratos needs to hit him for his haxes to activate

Kratos has Infinite speed attacks though, if I'm understanding the Gojo comparison correctly.
Yang kai has immensurable speed
Kratos is protected by a Type 1 concept in body, mind, soul and concept so nebulously destroying a law wouldn't change much here. Kratos doesn't have a deeper law aspect in the way he has a concept or mind.

Also, he should resist the Furies' law hax but idk if I ever implemented that.
But not law, that is the problem, he is more or less totally open to Yang Kai law shenanigans, which he can imbude with any attack, so that means he can just spam 5-D range danmaku
He does have Immeasurable lifting strength, so yeah, this tracks.
I wasn't talking about LS
TLDR:Kratos kills him with a conceptual hit, yang kai from the past sees that Kratos is actually really ******* strong, so he starts seriously, Yang Kai keeps dying until he manages to kill Kratos with law manip, while using his Spatial manipulation to BFR kratos weapons. So Yang Kai is basically the shrike if he OP
 
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Yang kai has immensurable speed
My point is that a spatial barrier like Gojo's wouldn't matter at these speeds.
But not law, that is the problem, he is more or less totally open to Yang Kai law shenanigans, which he can imbude with any attack, so that means he can just spam 5-D range danmaku
OK but what are the "law" shenanigans?
I wasn't talking about LS
You overpower telekinesis with lifting strength though.
 
My point is that a spatial barrier like Gojo's wouldn't matter at these speeds.
Why? No really, why? They are being done by both infinite characters, and I think Yang Kai has used his spatial manip to meme immensurables before
OK but what are the "law" shenanigans?
He is able to coat more or less any attack with something that can damage the law of things, I already posted the scan
You overpower telekinesis with lifting strength though.
I was talking about time stop, where did you pulled lifting strength from?
 
Why? No really, why? They are being done by both infinite characters, and I think Yang Kai has used his spatial manip to meme immensurables before
Because an spatial barrier with functionally infinite space between an opponent and the user would be covered by any Infinite speed attack. It working on Immeasurables just means there's something more going on there.

Though, Kratos can both interact with space in the form of Realm Tears and resist Space-time manipulation from Garm and Nidhogg.
He is able to coat more or less any attack with something that can damage the law of things, I already posted the scan
OK sure. Kratos doesn't really have a law to damage (unless this is a verse mechanic where individuals have laws) and even then, it would come down to attacks landing before Yang is killed.
I was talking about time stop, where did you pulled lifting strength from?
Oh, my bad. I read that as TK as in telekinesis lol.
 
Because an spatial barrier with functionally infinite space between an opponent and the user would be covered by any Infinite speed attack
You are forgetting than that is not the only application of Yang spatial manip, he can also use it to BFR people, ki, or even objects
It working on Immeasurables just means there's something more going on there.
Okay, that is just headcanon
OK sure. Kratos doesn't really have a law to damage (unless this is a verse mechanic where individuals have laws) and even then, it would come down to attacks landing before Yang is killed.
Everyone has a law, it is the thing that bind us, in the same way that concepts do. And that logic doesn't even make any sense, just because you haven't showed you are being binded by a law, doesn't mean you don't have a personal law, the same reason soul manip and plot manip work on characters that haven't mentioned to have those previously mentioned aspects. Anyways, at worst this in an incon because Yang is an stubborn little gremlin, and he will keep sacrificing infinite past version of himself to kill some random greek dude, at best Yang wins because he eventually hits Kratos with funny 5-D sized lance hepped by law manip
 
You are forgetting than that is not the only application of Yang spatial manip, he can also use it to BFR people, ki, or even objects
BFR is probably the only really good win condition mentioned.
Okay, that is just headcanon
You mention what is presumably an barrier that works the same way as functionally infinite space. I point out that Infinite speed counters that by just travelling the distance, same as anything else. There isn't any amount of space that would require Immeasurable or beyond to bypass via movement either. So I'm not sure where the headcanon comes from.
Everyone has a law, it is the thing that bind us, in the same way that concepts do. And that logic doesn't even make any sense, just because you haven't showed you are being binded by a law, doesn't mean you don't have a personal law, the same reason soul manip and plot manip work on characters that haven't mentioned to have those previously mentioned aspects. Anyways, at worst this in an incon because Yang is an stubborn little gremlin, and he will keep sacrificing infinite past version of himself to kill some random greek dude, at best Yang wins because he eventually hits Kratos with funny 5-D sized lance hepped by law manip
I don't really see him eventually landing a hit when the win condition for Kratos (Time Stop/TK/PowerNull into any attack) can just happen immediately.
 
BFR is probably the only really good win condition mentioned.
How isn't Yang Kai spamming thousands of projectiles, each with the ability to kill Kratos, with more or less unlimited chance (acasuality type 4 thwartsevery attempt kratos tries to kill him)
You mention what is presumably an barrier that works the same way as functionally infinite space. I point out that Infinite speed counters that by just travelling the distance, same as anything else. There isn't any amount of space that would require Immeasurable or beyond to bypass via movement either. So I'm not sure where the headcanon comes from.
Sometimes fiction is weird, and it breaks the law of physics (also bad for you for expecting a logical explication in a ******* xianxia)
I don't really see him eventually landing a hit when the win condition for Kratos (Time Stop/TK/PowerNull into any attack) can just happen immediately.
Yang resists time stop, powernull doesn't matter because if he dies, a past version of him will come to replace him, the same goes with TK. Added with the fact that Yang Kai resistance is so absurdly better than kratos, I genuinely can just see Yang fighting for thousands of years, until kratos dies of exhaustion, or gets incaped by it.
 
How isn't Yang Kai spamming thousands of projectiles, each with the ability to kill Kratos, with more or less unlimited chance (acasuality type 4 thwartsevery attempt kratos tries to kill him)
Cause Power Null. And Kratos kills Type 4 Acausals with ease, that wouldn't matter at all here.
Sometimes fiction is weird, and it breaks the law of physics (also bad for you for expecting a logical explication in a ******* xianxia)
This is handwaving stuff away though.
Yang resists time stop, powernull doesn't matter because if he dies, a past version of him will come to replace him, the same goes with TK. Added with the fact that Yang Kai resistance is so absurdly better than kratos, I genuinely can just see Yang fighting for thousands of years, until kratos dies of exhaustion, or gets incaped by it.
Kratos is not getting exhausted by thinking + waving in Yang's general direction lol. It's normal for gods to spend centuries dodging Zeus's lightning bolts if he's mad and Ares was once almost punished the same way Sisyphus was, so stamina isn't much of a concern.

The power null and other just means he doesn't have the means to do anything whenever he arrives. And what do you mean better, aren't his resistances and hax like 3-D?
 
Cause Power Null. And Kratos kills Type 4 Acausals with ease, that wouldn't matter at all here.
Type 4 acasuals, not type 3 acasuals. Type 4 trascending/lacking certain laws (or all laws, in some cases), type 3 is just being friends with your past version, and it being able to help you
Kratos is not getting exhausted by thinking + waving in Yang's general direction lol. It's normal for gods to spend centuries dodging Zeus's lightning bolts if he's mad and Ares was once almost punished the same way Sisyphus was.
That is cool, yang kai will potentially spend millons of years trowing past versions at kratos
This is handwaving stuff away though.
No it isn't, your argument toward me saying that Yang Kai maybe be able to use his spatial manip to tag imm characters, is just "umm...Maybe there is some added context, because otherwise it doesn't make sense"
 
I feel like this is going nowhere, can we compromise and say that they get tired of shanking each other with Metaphysical aspects, and they go to eat soft tacos or something? (I.E. Incon)
 
"Type 4 acasuals, not type 3 acasuals. Type 4 trascending/lacking certain laws (or all laws, in some cases), type 3 is just being friends with your past version, and it being able to help you"

We revised the rules of Type 4 Aca unless Yang's Type 4 stuff was created AFTER that and managed to have proof of having such high levels listed like it was in the past in the profile
 
Constant stompings that never end. I'd call that an incap but people can't seem to decide on that.
Heads up, from what I know if one side cannot do anything and the other just keeps killing them then it is a loss.
 
Heads up, from what I know if one side cannot do anything and the other just keeps killing them then it is a loss.
Yang Kai can kill kratos or incap him. He can either BFR, use danmaku with law manip destruction, or use his BS stamina to wait for kratos to fall sleep, so he totally doesn't lack offensive means, it is that Kratos has far more offensive hax, and Yang has more defensive hax. And I conceded an "Icon" because by the time this argument would had ended, Parahumans profiles would have already gotten fixed
 
Yang Kai's Law and CM1 hax are proportional with his tier, most other haxes are.....well.....probably just 4D max
 
You peopple can't read, when I wrote several wall of text you just default to muh potency
 
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