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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Nullflowerblush said:
Ignoring its aura, which is supporting evidence (at best), nothing ever implies Cell is ever transformed outside of when Cell is Powerweighted, which is explicitly the Third Grade Super Saiyan form.
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Actually, if I conceded that Cell could always and always has been used Super Saiyan at times, I could push the scaling chain even further.
 
I mean there’s nothing really to concede. It’s either you take the unsaid implication given by the Manga’s purposeful visuals, related guides, Anime’s visual and sound design, character statements, etc. or ya don’t. Either is valid because the evidence is based within supplemental information with no real explicit statement.
 

Cell Saga​

  • Fused with Kami, Piccolo achieves power that rivals Android 17's. >18975.5738 Quettatons (High 4-C)
  • Android 17's Barrier nullifies Piccolo's Hellzone Grenade, requiring double the Ki. >1.58791413 Foe (High 4-C)
    • Piccolo's Light Grenade possesses destructive ability even 17 acknowledged.
  • After absorbing 630,000+ Earthlings, Cell's Ki skyrocketed far beyond the likes of Piccolo and Android 17 and then further increased beyond belief after accessing the power of a Super Saiyan. >39.6978531 Foe (4-B)
  • After absorbing Android 17, Cell's power increased beyond even Android 16's. >40.4918102 Foe

Perfect Cell Saga​

  • With Android 18's power, Cell reaches its perfect form, dominating the likes of Super Vegeta. >41.2857672 Foe
  • Cell replicates Trunks's Super Saiyan Third Grade transformation. >2.06428836 KiloFoe

Cell Games​

  • In their normal forms, the Saiyans are fifty-times weaker than as Super Saiyans. >40.4918102 Foe
  • The resurrected Cell Juniors outclass DBS Saga SS Goten and Trunks. >2.02459051 KiloFoe
    • The original Cell Juniors are identical to their DBS counterparts.
      • Post-2nd RoSaT SS Vegeta and Trunks are "equal" in strength to the Cell Juniors.
      • At full power, SS Goku's Ki was immeasurable, as per Krillin.
        • Cell, seemingly at "full power", exchanged blows evenly with SS Goku.
        • Eventually, Cell began easily outmatching Goku, ultimately forcing him to surrender.
        • Even weighted, SS Gohan's power eclipsed that of Goku's.
      • As Piccolo can endure the Cell Juniors, who possess "roughly the same amount of power and speed as [Perfect] Cell", he is at least stronger than Super Vegeta. >40.4918102 Foe
  • Per Babidi Saga Vegeta, a passive SS Gohan now is stronger than SS Gohan then. >2.02459051 KiloFoe
    • Initially, Gohan kept pace with a fully-recovered Cell.
    • Yet, Cell held the overwhelming advantage.
    • Drawing upon his anger, SS Gohan floored Cell with a single kick.
  • Finally revealing its full power, Cell's Ki trumps over anything previously witnessed. >2.06428836 KiloFoe
    • Via Powerhouse, Cell trades speed for strength, achieving a Super Saiyan's power.
      • After self-destructing, Cell regenerates more powerful than ever before via Zenkai Boost.
        • With less than half of his Ki remaining, Gohan's one-armed Kamehameha matches Cell's. >4.12857672 KiloFoe
        • A hypothetical full power SS Gohan likely surpasses Perfect Cell.
          • A hypothetical full power Gohan is fifty-times weaker. >41.2857672 Foe
 
Unless, of course, Semi-Perfect Cell used Super Saiyan against Vegeta, and Perfect Cell's Super Saiyan against Goku is accepted as a genuine 50x.
Then, the scaling chain is pushed even further.
 
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Mmm, looks like he does.
Cell's powering up being intercut with Gohan's transformation is a rather interesting parallel as well.
 
Does anyone know if we've cucked MUI out of a Blue Fusion multiplier? Cuz right now I put together a scaling chain for the ToP that gets goku over 10 thousand times stronger over the course up until MUI, and it'd be really ******* lame if we treated MUI as a nothing power up scaling wise and just putting it as 'he got stronger'
 
Roun12 said:
In regards to R>F, whether or not something is considered 1-A or 11-C is dependent on what is considered the base reality. The books are treated as they're "below" the "normal" world of Dr. Slump where Arale and co. live and we as the reader spend the most time. Toriyama's world where he and his editor live (assuming R>F is true for that) is considered "above" Arale's world and would be 1-A.
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wouldn't R>F be absolute in general? Like, it doesn't matter what is the base reality or not?
 
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Janemba Addition (Should be simple)

Hello all been a minute since I did one of these, Straight to the point Janemba needs Chaos Manipulation Its pretty much for all the reasons listed here He not only broke down the laws governing the Afterlife and Living Realm and caused the deceased the run rampant across the Universe, but...
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Also, the Afterlife scan states two experts. One is that it's "dimensionally transcendental" and the other is that it "transcends dimensions." Which one would it be?
 
I’m gonna sit this one out. I’m just chillaxing and enjoying the (mostly) massive success of my GT Profile, and considering what other things I might need or want to do for Toei.

Ednaxel and I are already planning on doing Z-Goku Profiles, but I feel like we could probably get some other characters profiles done in the meantime. Specifically ones that would be much much easier, like Super 17.
 
RedReaper616 said:
I’m gonna sit this one out. I’m just chillaxing and enjoying the (mostly) massive success of my GT Profile, and considering what other things I might need or want to do for Toei.

Ednaxel and I are already planning on doing Z-Goku Profiles, but I feel like we could probably get some other characters profiles done in the meantime. Specifically ones that would be much much easier, like Super 17.
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More GT profile overhauls would be interesting.
 
RedReaper616 said:
I’m gonna sit this one out. I’m just chillaxing and enjoying the (mostly) massive success of my GT Profile, and considering what other things I might need or want to do for Toei.

Ednaxel and I are already planning on doing Z-Goku Profiles, but I feel like we could probably get some other characters profiles done in the meantime. Specifically ones that would be much much easier, like Super 17.
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Oh yeah
 
And I’m sorry but I’m sick of people just agreeing with a thread because it’s a downgrade. There was not one new point brought up in the OP that would have even justified a 22nd Budokai downgrade BECAUSE IT WASNT THE MAIN FOCUS OF THE OP 😂. It looks like it’s getting rejected and we’ll get a proper discussion rule out of it.
 
Asura blatantly disagreed with the logic of the thread and then refused to disagree 😂. Only two people would support that logic and I’m pretty sure one of them even knew it was bullshit but still went with it cuz “any DB Downgrade is a win even if it has no merit.”😂
 
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