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Saitama vs Mori REDUX • (0-7-0) • [Winner: GOATRI]

MichaelCalistro

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This has happened before in Aug 12, 2022. Has the result changed?

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Saitama, the One-Punch Man

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Mori, the God of High School

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Parallel Timeline Saitama • Ragnarok Arc Mori • Standard Battle Assumptions • Speed is equalized • In a very large indestructible planet

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Finally, someone else who uses soundtracks for their fights...

Anyways i'm pretty sure mori stomps after a glance at both profiles, he has a lot of abilities that i don't think saitama resists at all or could conceivably improvise a way around
 
Vote Mori for now, Mori ap after using Jeahbongchim ×250,000 is 17.855 YottaFoe (for now, he should be like at least 72× stronger then this) while Saitama drua is 4.324 YottaFoe so it has 4.1× ap/drua gap here and with the speed difference of 250,000× he can blitz and use the pressure point to paralyze Saitama and one-shot him with point-blank The Kick of Double Dragon.

So basicly this is Satan vs Mori here but worst.
 
M2u12 said:
Saitama drua is 4.324 YottaFoe so it has 4.1× ap/drua gap here and with the speed difference of 250,000× he can blitz
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I'll just note that this specific Mori doesn't start with jeabongchim 250,000x but if he gets pushed (he won't lol) he's fully down to use it.
M2u12 said:
So basicly this is Satan vs Mori here but worst.
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Basically this, but Satan had regeneration and hax Saitama doesn't.
 
M2u12 said:
Vote Mori for now, Mori ap after using Jeahbongchim ×250,000 is 17.855 YottaFoe (for now, he should be like at least 72× stronger then this) while Saitama drua is 4.324 YottaFoe so it has 4.1× ap/drua gap here and with the speed difference of 250,000× he can blitz and use the pressure point to paralyze Saitama and one-shot him with point-blank The Kick of Double Dragon.

So basicly this is Satan vs Mori here but worst.
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Just to point out, pressure points and acupuncture points doesn't work on Saitama, Garou who can durability negation himself learned this the hard way.
 
Yeah pressure points are working in Saitama as far as we've seen. Surviving mountain level organ damage ≠ resisting pressure point strikes from a galaxy buster.
 
Yeah count me in for Mori as well. Vastly higher skill, BIQ, experience, moveset, win cons, and even better growth feats (although his are more reactive while Saitamas are active).
Mori has pretty much already beat stronger versions of Saitama so this is a piece of cake for him
 
DavidTPPM said:
Yeah count me in for Mori as well. Vastly higher skill, BIQ, experience, moveset, win cons, and even better growth feats (although his are more reactive while Saitamas are active).
Mori has pretty much already beat stronger versions of Saitama so this is a piece of cake for him
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DavidTPPM said:
Yeah pressure points are working in Saitama as far as we've seen. Surviving mountain level organ damage ≠ resisting pressure point strikes from a galaxy buster.
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Bro what? Garou's martial arts focuses on the usage of pressure point strikes, and Saitama no sold them at galaxy level.
M2u12 said:
Prove?, why it didn't work on Saitama and if it didn't work why isn't it in his profile?
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You can give resistance to pressure point strikes? don't remember seeing anyone with it
 
Wouldn't fear manipulation make this a stomp? or would resistance to empathetic manipulation/mind control give resistance to fear manipulation
 
Farfetchedx said:
Bro what? Garou's martial arts focuses on the usage of pressure point strikes, and Saitama no sold them at galaxy level.
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That's not the same. Targeting weak points or "pressure points" to maximize damage because they're weak points is not the same as performing acupuncture on the opponent.

Fodder like Ilpyo have no weak points either and yet he was so threatened by Moris acupuncture he needed to disable it before fighting Mori.
Farfetchedx said:
You can give resistance to pressure point strikes?
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Yeah? There's different types of pressure point strikes.
Farfetchedx said:
don't remember seeing anyone with it
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Because actual resistance to pressure point strikes is different.
Farfetchedx said:
Wouldn't fear manipulation make this a stomp? or would resistance to empathetic manipulation/mind control give resistance to fear manipulation
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Saitama would struggle at first but would eventually probably overcome it through willpower. Not resist, just cope with it.
 
DavidTPPM said:
That's not the same. Targeting weak points or "pressure points" to maximize damage because they're weak points is not the same as performing acupuncture on the opponent.

Fodder like Ilpyo have no weak points either and yet he was so threatened by Moris acupuncture he needed to disable it before fighting Mori.
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yeah, I should've looked at Mori's profile
DavidTPPM said:
Saitama would struggle at first but would eventually probably overcome it through willpower. Not resist, just cope with it.
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how though, from my knowledge, fear manipulation can't simply be overcome by willpower
 
Farfetchedx said:
how though, from my knowledge, fear manipulation can't simply be overcome by willpower
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Fear Manipulation page says:
Fear Manipulation can occasionally be depicted as a power which can be overcome with bravery, willpower and courage.
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And while the fear is intense AF, Saitama is like THE willpower guy so even tho it still gives Mori an advantage, Saitama should be able to overcome it. If nothing else at least not give up or fall unconscious like most people would
 
DavidTPPM said:
Fear Manipulation page says:
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Well that's weird, because the social influencing page says this
Instigating Fear: Characters who can in some way or the other, instigate fear and affect the thinking or confidence of another person in their verse. The ways the characters use may include usage of position or a reputation in their verse, having an appearance or a certain feature in their appearance which other characters in the verse perceive as creepy or scary and easily scared by it or driving other characters into situations where they are set to feel fear, etc. This differs from fear manipulation, as this doesn't involve any supernatural factor and is escapable through simple willpower or confidence.
Basically saying that fear manipulation isn't escapable through just willpower and confidence
The reason Garou never gained fear manipulation was because 4 heroes resisted it
 
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Farfetchedx said:
Well that's weird, because the social influencing page says this
Instigating Fear: Characters who can in some way or the other, instigate fear and affect the thinking or confidence of another person in their verse. The ways the characters use may include usage of position or a reputation in their verse, having an appearance or a certain feature in their appearance which other characters in the verse perceive as creepy or scary and easily scared by it or driving other characters into situations where they are set to feel fear, etc. This differs from fear manipulation, as this doesn't involve any supernatural factor and is escapable through simple willpower or confidence.
Basically saying that fear manipulation isn't escapable through just willpower and confidence
The reason Garou never gained fear manipulation was because 4 heroes resisted it
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Yeah that's weird
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
It's obvious why they have different descriptions.
Social influence "fear" is not done through supernatural means, but rather through means that could theoretically be possible in our world (The real one)
While Fear Manipulation is done through Supernatural means.
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I get that difference. The thing is that even supernatural FM can be overcome with enough willpower but the pages seem to disagree with each other
 
DavidTPPM said:
I get that difference. The thing is that even supernatural FM can be overcome with enough willpower but the pages seem to disagree with each other
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No? It's saying that social influence fear, is escapable for baseline/simple Willpower users, but Fear manipulation may or may not be overcome by Willpower.

Instigating Fear: Characters who can in some way or the other, instigate fear and affect the thinking or confidence of another person in their verse. The ways the characters use may include usage of position or a reputation in their verse, having an appearance or a certain feature in their appearance which other characters in the verse perceive as creepy or scary and easily scared by it or driving other characters into situations where they are set to feel fear, etc. This differs from fear manipulation, as this doesn't involve any supernatural factor and is escapable through simple willpower or confidence.
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Fear Manipulation can occasionally be depicted as a power which can be overcome with bravery, willpower and courage.
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You simply didn't read the description correctly. This is extremely common and happens all the time.
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
No? It's saying that social influence fear, is escapable for baseline/simple Willpower users, but Fear manipulation may or may not be overcome by Willpower.

You simply didn't read the description correctly. This is extremely common and happens all the time.
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Yeah that's what I'm saying…
The only confusion here was that SI page seems to imply FM is not possible to overcome with willpower while FM page says it is a possibility
 
DavidTPPM said:
The only confusion here was that SI page seems to imply FM is not possible to overcome with willpower while FM page says it is a possibility
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Again you are misreading, it's not implying that it is "impossible", but rather can't guarantee it will be escapable with "baseline" Willpower.

The key word here being "simple" or "baseline"
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
Again you are misreading, it's not implying that it is "impossible", but rather can't guarantee it will be escapable with "baseline" Willpower.

The key word here being "simple" or "baseline"
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You're overcomplicating it. (also kinda derailing the thread but idc)
SI states "simple" willpower can overcome it because you don't need to have inhuman or "supernatural" willpower to not be afraid of someone's authority or power. There's no "baseline willpower".

FM states you can overcome it with unspecified level of willpower. Meaning same level of regular willpower can potentially overcome both if the effect isn't too strong.

For example supernatural fear manipulation that simply gives you the same level of fear as watching a shitty horror movie can still be overcome through regular human willpower. But fear that makes you pass out will require stronger, possibly supernatural willpower.

This is a simple question of magnitude. Fear of low magnitude can be overcome through willpower regardless of its source.

To end the fear topic, I believe that even if Saitama can't fully overcome the fear, he should have enough willpower to not outright pass out or give up from the start.
 
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