The Brick Fortress Tournament (2025) - Semi Final 2: Tanya von Degurechaff vs The Predator

[DemonicDude]

VS

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Match Rules:

• Rules as stated in the Tournament.
• Both are 9-B, Likely 9-A
• Speed will be equalized
• No Prep Time
• Both start 40 meters away from each other
• Win Condition: As stated in the rules.
• Semi Final match: 10 minutes of prep time for all Semi final and onward matches for each combatant.
• Location:
• A Giant, ancient fortress structure, 3 kilometers wide, with towering broken pillars, shattered-windows, and a cracked stone floor with MAGMA in the core.
  The entire area is surrounded by collapsed walls and debris, with only a single, heavily reinforced iron gate that remains sealed shut. The battle must be fought to the end, as the unstable surroundings make climbing out impossible. If you get Tossed off the Fortress or inside the MAGMA Core, you lose the match , or your can lose in a fair fight or just exit the tournament yourself. (Choice is yours )
  
  (Location picture below)
  

  

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Vs

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Result:

Characters:	Attack Potency:	Votes:
Tanya von Degurechaff:	160-225 Megajoules	8 (DT, Fanta Demoic, Shadow, Koopa, imaginym, Lort)
Predator:	0.01 Tons / 41.84 Megajoules physically. scales to both values, those being 0.00656 Tons of TNT and 0.1220603449 Tons of Tnt/ 510.70 Megajoules with advanced weaponry (Scales to both calcs)
Inconclusive:

 

[Lort15]

first ez

 

[DemonicDude]

first ez

Why weren't you in my tourney

 

[Lort15]

Why weren't you in my tourney

which one

 

[DemonicDude]

which one

This current one, when it started. I remember messaging you in dms. Okay now we are in semi's perhaps another one.

 

[Lort15]

This current one, when it started. I remember messaging you in dms. Okay now we are in semi's perhaps another one.

i forgor ;-;

 

[TogepiYoda]

I've taken a cursory glance at both profiles, and I gotta ask y'all, would the Predator's "code of conduct" include children? Considering how this is most likely a regular old Predator, if it does they might just refuse to fight.

If not though, then I'd see them definitely use their preparation time to grab ranged weapons, but even still, although the range gap isn't nearly as bad as with some previous cases, I fear this might just end up in another Shyura argument. Their way of perception (being infrared) would likely be enough to not be fooled by decoys, but I don't think they would have the firepower necessary at long range to break any shields, even with the kamikaze drones. Nor can they fly. But I can also see that they actually pose a decent defense against whatever sky barrage Tanya decides to cook up, being able to predict where it lands and camouflage to get out of her sight.

Leaning Tanya for now, but I'll wait for more expert opinions to weigh in. Just praying Tanya doesn't sweep the tourney with just the Shyura argument

 

[DemonicDude]

Predators are not mindless brutes, the fact that they defeated someone of the best warriors in the galaxy in combat I wonder how much intelligence would play a role in this fight for both combatants. Has Predators ever faced flying enemies ? Their Enhanced detection senses should be able to keep track of Tanya. I'm gonna wait for DT and Koopa.

 

[AThe1412]

I've taken a cursory glance at both profiles, and I gotta ask y'all, would the Predator's "code of conduct" include children? Considering how this is most likely a regular old Predator, if it does they might just refuse to fight.

They only refuse to fight those who are defenseless, ill, or pregnant. Tanya is a child but she's neither of those.

 

[DemonicDude]

They only refuse to fight those who are defenseless, ill, or pregnant. Tanya is a child but she's neither of those.

Adult in body of Child

 

[Imaginym]

I know of both by Pop-cultural osmosis, but haven't really checked their profiles.

Also, I plan to get back to bed very soon; Pokemon Day/Pokemon Presents is in a little under 5 hours & 40 minutes from now.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Does the Predator's spaceflight translate to regular flight? Is it good flight?

Also, what exactly is allowed during preptime? Can Tanya put up booby traps and stuff? Could she charge an attack? Get high on magic drugs?

Their way of perception (being infrared) would likely be enough to not be fooled by decoys

Funny enough, with Tanya having specifically the ability to magically produce infrared light she has what she needs to flashbang that.

 

[DemonicDude]

Does the Predator's spaceflight translate to regular flight? Is it good flight?

Also, what exactly is allowed during preptime? Can Tanya put up booby traps and stuff? Could she charge an attack? Get high on magic drugs?


Funny enough, with Tanya having specifically the ability to magically produce infrared light she has what she needs to flashbang that.

Charged and premeditated attacks are not allowed, way too much advantage.
Tho like I said before analyzing the environment, she can set traps.

I wonder if predators senses has ever allowed him to defect traps, guess I gotta wait for Koopa

 

[koopa3144]

Just woke up, I wanted to be here when it dropped but these come out at like midnight for me.
So, the Pred is a 2.27x stronger then Tanya with their advanced weaponry and armor. Pred has a lot of ranged like from Bows, Snipers, Lazer Snipers, smart discs/Shurikens (which they can control the movement of with their minds), and the Plasmacaster which can reach helicopters up in the sky. They can also calculate the trajectory for shots with the Bio-mask so ranged fighting shouldn't be that much of a problem. Since Tanya can't see past their Cloak so theres nothing stoping the Pred from disappearing from her sight and safely sniping her from a distance. They should be able to endure any barrage Tanya sends at them due to their armor being able to tank the Preds own advanced weaponry which is 2.27x stronger then her attacks.

Their way of perception (being infrared) would likely be enough to not be fooled by decoys, but I don't think they would have the firepower necessary at long range to break any shields, even with the kamikaze drones.

Their advanced weaponry is 2.27x stronger then Tanya so it shouldn't take more than a few shots from there Plasmacaster or any other advanced weapon to take out her shields.

Does the Predator's spaceflight translate to regular flight? Is it good flight?

Technically yeah, if they want they can call down their ship and fly wherever both on planet and in space but that's not crazy in-character to do mid-fight.

Funny enough, with Tanya having specifically the ability to magically produce infrared light she has what she needs to flashbang that.

While that might work on the thermal vision mode of the Bio-mask, modes like EM and ultraviolet vision should still be capable seeing through the decoys.

I wonder if predators senses has ever allowed him to defect traps, guess I gotta wait for Koopa

The Pred is gonna have the whole area mapped out on their Sat-Com and they can also highlight all non-living things in their vision with PredTech vision mode on their Bio-mask so they should know where any traps are placed.

 

[DontTalkDT]

So, the obvious thing here is once again flight gg.
Tanya is smart. Literally one of the best military leaders in the world war. Against a non-flying enemy she can't easily locate she won't stay close to the ground.
So against someone that doesn't fly or can't (is the ship allowed? Seems like a different key) and that has lesser range... well, not much they can really do.

Now, ultraviolet maybe works against the drones and can't be flashbanged, but that is something they need to figure out first. So that's pretty much a free hit.
Traps might be a second option. Don't really see how vision that filters organic materials would help against a grenade rigged to explose hidden behind some stone.

Next, their armor. It has... gaps? Like, unless there are forcefields involved that the profile doesn't mention, Tanya can shoot in the gaps.

Predicting Tanya's shots won't work, since Tanya can magically curve them. She can, in fact, even make them home in. She can also shoot spells without her gun, which would probably make predicting them pretty impossible to begin with. (unless you can sense mana)

What the invisibility is concerned: Well, it only makes almost invisible, leaving a heat haze like silhouette. And being perceptive enough to see through the like of audiovisual illusions was a basic criteria for Tanya's selection of mages.
No doubt she is also smart enough to come up with countermeasures, like using explosion spells to spread dirt around.
And I think the cloak is easier to damage than the armor.

So overall, fly and snipe should still work, I think.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Dumb question. The battle starts with them being in line of sight of each other despite the prep time, ye? So wouldn't Tanya, upon seeing the Predator vanishing in front of her, be compelled to frick off into the air even if she can't attack at first due to the preset amount of prep-time, If I am not mistaken. Also, like... The custom battlefield that DD made up doesn't seem like it offers much cover for the Predator so he can't do much to protect himself if Tanya decides on just nuking the battlefield kilometers in the sky as her first move.

... I know nothing about Tanya 'sides vague memories from Isekai Quartet, so correct me if I am wrong.

 

[koopa3144]

Tanya is smart. Literally one of the best military leaders in the world war. Against a non-flying enemy she can't easily locate she won't stay close to the ground.
So against someone that doesn't fly or can't (is the ship allowed? Seems like a different key) and that has lesser range... well, not much they can really do.

As I noted in my first reply, the Pred has a multitude of long range weapons they can use to shoot at her in the air (Idk why their profile says Tens of Meters when even their basic weapons such as Bows alone have Hundreds of Meters of range). And if she flys up the Pred can scale up the fortress or the surrounding bits of land to get a better shot and knows exactly where to aim to kill thanks to the Bio-mask.

Next, their armor. It has... gaps? Like, unless there are forcefields involved that the profile doesn't mention, Tanya can shoot in the gaps.

The military armors have the Pred covered head to toe so there's really no gaps to shoot though. Also the armor does have a forcefield with the killscreen generator which emits unstable streams of dark plasma particles that vaporize incoming enemy projectiles.

What the invisibility is concerned: Well, it only makes almost invisible, leaving a heat haze like silhouette. And being perceptive enough to see through the like of audiovisual illusions was a basic criteria for Tanya's selection of mages.

While it does leave a haze, it can be basically unnoticeable and even peeps right in front of a Pred can't see them.

And I think the cloak is easier to damage than the armor.

The cloak is built into the Preds armor and should be just as strong as the rest of it.

Also I'm gonna be prob busy for a while today so I prob wont get to reply to anything new until tonight.

 

[DemonicDude]

Looking at the image of the battlefield, it's a castle like fortress there are shadowy regions if your characters have ability of enhanced jumping to climb up to those mini fortresses & hide under the entrances, maybe use those walls a defensive shield. Looking at the argument here with lack of Predator verse members. I guess Tanya skill Stomps Predator when it comes to intelligence?
I still will wait for @koopa3144 there's a lot of weapons and equipment predator has since it's all equipment tourney, I'm going to wait and see. Let's wait another day I don't want to be unfair to anyone.
This entire battle comes down to Skill.

 

[DontTalkDT]

As I noted in my first reply, the Pred has a multitude of long range weapons they can use to shoot at her in the air (Idk why their profile says Tens of Meters when even their basic weapons such as Bows alone have Hundreds of Meters of range). And if she flys up the Pred can scale up the fortress or the surrounding bits of land to get a better shot and knows exactly where to aim to kill thanks to the Bio-mask.

Yeah, you would need to update the profile if you want to claim that he has higher range. Given, hundreds of meters ain't going to do much either. Tanya flies thousands of meters above her enemies. You would need the ability to hit something over ranges superior to real life sniper rifles... and then you would need to actually hit.

Tanya is an ace of ace above any real life airforce pilot in achievements and she has the small body of a child. She is hard to hit and extremely good at dodging from things firing from much closer range.

Besides a weapons ability to shoot a distance there is also always the issue of actually aiming. Like, a railway gun can certainly hit far enough to hit her, but good luck hitting such a small target over that distance with one.
And then there is attack speed to consider...

Btw. climbing out the surrounding bits of land is impossible by OP specifications, so that doesn't work.

The military armors have the Pred covered head to toe so there's really no gaps to shoot though. Also the armor does have a forcefield with the killscreen generator which emits unstable streams of dark plasma particles that vaporize incoming enemy projectiles.

Are they wearing military armor in this? Does the military armor have the same features? (e.g. cloaking and durability)

Also, the forcefields you describe are cool but useless. You can't vaporize magic, as it already isn't a solid thing.

While it does leave a haze, it can be basically unnoticeable and even peeps right in front of a Pred can't see them.

Yeah, one can still see them. Basically unnoticable is far from completely unnoticable. And, as said, being observant enough to see through such stuff is a thing Tanya is known to be.
And, like, Tanya just needs to have her magic lock on to him so that he can have her shots home in afterwards.

The cloak is built into the Preds armor and should be just as strong as the rest of it.

The wiki you link to notes that it can be disabled by less than lethal damage, not that I would know.

 

[TogepiYoda]

DT said most of what I was going to say, but to add on -

As I noted in my first reply, the Pred has a multitude of long range weapons they can use to shoot at her in the air (Idk why their profile says Tens of Meters when even their basic weapons such as Bows alone have Hundreds of Meters of range). And if she flys up the Pred can scale up the fortress or the surrounding bits of land to get a better shot and knows exactly where to aim to kill thanks to the Bio-mask.

True, their sensors would allow for them to see infrared, however as mentioned by DT previously:

Funny enough, with Tanya having specifically the ability to magically produce infrared light she has what she needs to flashbang that.

Even if she doesn't do that, Tanya could just put infrared light in her decoys to make the Predator guess and check each one, which would give Tanya more than enough time to refresh decoys and/or fight back before the shield breaks. And that's not even accounting for her skill in dodging.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

As I noted in my first reply, the Pred has a multitude of long range weapons they can use to shoot at her in the air (Idk why their profile says Tens of Meters when even their basic weapons such as Bows alone have Hundreds of Meters of range). And if she flys up the Pred can scale up the fortress or the surrounding bits of land to get a better shot and knows exactly where to aim to kill thanks to the Bio-mask.

The military armors have the Pred covered head to toe so there's really no gaps to shoot though. Also the armor does have a forcefield with the killscreen generator which emits unstable streams of dark plasma particles that vaporize incoming enemy projectiles.

While it does leave a haze, it can be basically unnoticeable and even peeps right in front of a Pred can't see them.

The cloak is built into the Preds armor and should be just as strong as the rest of it.

Also I'm gonna be prob busy for a while today so I prob wont get to reply to anything new until tonight.

I agree with Koopa3144's arguments.

 

[DemonicDude]

let's do a quick CRT for Predator species and upgrade their Range.

 

[DontTalkDT]

I agree with Koopa3144's arguments.

Explain how Predator gonna hit a small girl over 10km distance while she does erratic air maneuvers

 

[koopa3144]

Btw I'm working on a response but I gotta wait until I get back to my home computer to add scans to it since image sharing sites are blocked on the one I'm using now. Also I"m prob gonna be busy all day tomorrow since it's by B-day.

 

[DemonicDude]

Btw I'm working on a response but I gotta wait until I get back to my home computer to add scans to it since image sharing sites are blocked on the one I'm using now. Also I"m prob gonna be busy all day tomorrow since it's by B-day.

I shall abide in neutrality for the nonce in this contest and shall cast no vote for either warrior until more arguments be set forth. Moreover, I bid thee a most joyous birthday in advance to Koopa3144.
Once a day or two passes, then shall I proceed and hearken further unto his argument. Given DT’s reasonings, I find mine inclinations swaying toward Tanya’s triumph, yet it were but just to tarry till Koopa be freed and returneth then i'll vote upon hearing final argument.

 

[koopa3144]

Tanya is an ace of ace above any real life airforce pilot in achievements and she has the small body of a child. She is hard to hit and extremely good at dodging from things firing from much closer range.

Besides a weapons ability to shoot a distance there is also always the issue of actually aiming. Like, a railway gun can certainly hit far enough to hit her, but good luck hitting such a small target over that distance with one.

Preds have a vast amount of experience shooting down much smaller targets than Yanya such as Facehuggers and Chestbursters and weapons like Smart Discs home into targets and can stop mid-flight to change directions. The Pred can also just shoot Tanya before she can get too far with weapons like the Plasmacaster iirc can blitz those comparable like Xenos and other Preds and since the Plasmacaster auto-targets foes the Pred doesn't have to take any time to aim it before firing. Because she doesn't resist the heat from the plasma she's gonna be reduced to char on hit. They can also restrain her with things like their whip/grapple hook or just jump up with their insane jump height her to stop her from flying off at the start of the fight while shes still on ground level.

Are they wearing military armor in this? Does the military armor have the same features? (e.g. cloaking and durability)

Yeah, they have all their equipment as per the tournament rules. All armors in extinction can use a cloak and have around the same dura.

Yeah, one can still see them. Basically unnoticable is far from completely unnoticable. And, as said, being observant enough to see through such stuff is a thing Tanya is known to be.

Even Andriods with enhanced senses can't get past a Preds stealth and even if she can kinda see the haze left behind, It's still gonna be very hard for her to keep track of the Pred after they cloak especially since they make no noise while moving.

Even if she doesn't do that, Tanya could just put infrared light in her decoys to make the Predator guess and check each one, which would give Tanya more than enough time to refresh decoys and/or fight back before the shield breaks. And that's not even accounting for her skill in dodging.

AsI noted before the Pred can use their other vision modes like heartbeat and X-ray to tell their not real or just notice a lack of Brain activity after scanning them. Also, how would she know to use infrared light in the first place?

 

[DontTalkDT]

Preds have a vast amount of experience shooting down much smaller targets than Yanya such as Facehuggers and Chestbursters

Over 10 km distance? Like, I can hit a facehugger as well if it's right in front of me. Size alone isn't the issue.

weapons like Smart Discs home into targets and can stop mid-flight to change directions.

Tanya would just go and shoot all of those down.

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Well, assuming that weaponry had sufficient range to reach her to start with.

The Pred can also just shoot Tanya before she can get too far with weapons like the Plasmacaster iirc can blitz those comparable like Xenos and other Preds and since the Plasmacaster auto-targets foes the Pred doesn't have to take any time to aim it before firing. Because she doesn't resist the heat from the plasma she's gonna be reduced to char on hit

Mage forcefields don't particularly care about heat. See the scans above. Heat based rounds with this level of AP are the bread and butter in mage combat, and it's exactly what the shields withstand.

Also, like, the chances that they are gonna pull out that specific gun right away are pretty low to begin with. Both from a simple probability standpoint and because I doubt it would be favored with their own honour system.

Aaaand, auto-targeting isn't that hard to dodge for Tanya either. Homing spells and stuff are again not unusual in mage combat. With the difference that spells even change direction after being fired.

They can also restrain her with things like their whip/grapple hook or just jump up with their insane jump height her to stop her from flying off at the start of the fight while shes still on ground level.

Jump up? If they wish to commit suicide they are free to do that.
In a jump (without flight) you can't change the direction of your trajectory. Makes you an easy target.

And, like, what do you plan to hold on to? The first thing you hit is her forcefield. Don't think you can attach a hook to that as it's not really a physical thing.

Yeah, they have all their equipment as per the tournament rules. All armors in extinction can use a cloak and have around the same dura.

But, are they wearing it? They can't carry everything simultanously, so they must make a selection as for what to wear. Will they choose a military uniform for a 1 on 1 duel

Even Andriods with enhanced senses can't get past a Preds stealth

I don't get what you are showing there.
First scan, they manage to react to the Predator before it appears and it seems to be an issue of it hiding in the trees.
The first enhanced senses scan is about someone that can actually see them.
And the latter ones are various people using various sensors not on Predators, so I don't see how they even relate.

Anyway, since you mentioned range stuff not on the profile (as vague as it is right now) let me also mention something not yet on the profile.

She apparently has the ability to trace the location of tech.

and even if she can kinda see the haze left behind, It's still gonna be very hard for her to keep track of the Pred after they cloak especially since they make no noise while moving.

Tanya has magical homing. I don't think lack of noise will prevent a magic spell from following your location.

I will also mention the option of Tanya just blowing a bunch of mud into the air with an explosion to make the cloak dirty again. I see nothing that would really prevent that.

 

[koopa3144]

Mage forcefields don't particularly care about heat. See the scans above. Heat based rounds with this level of AP are the bread and butter in mage combat, and it's exactly what the shields withstand.

The Pred should be using an upgraded Plasmacaster called the Blazer since they're wearing its armor. The Blazer can reach temperatures that are hotter than many stars at their core and instantly sweeps large areas unless she can handle that kind of heat with her shields she's getting charred. The Plasmacaster can also fire dark matter which causes a controlled energy reaction that correlates its damage to the mass of a target, letting the weapon neg dura.

Aaaand, auto-targeting isn't that hard to dodge for Tanya either. Homing spells and stuff are again not unusual in mage combat. With the difference that spells even change direction after being fired.

As I noted the Plasmacaster is much faster than those comparable to the Preds themselves and since it locks onto foes the Pred doesn't have to waste time aiming it. It can also rapid-fire making it even harder to avoid.

Also, like, the chances that they are gonna pull out that specific gun right away are pretty low to begin with. Both from a simple probability standpoint and because I doubt it would be favored with their own honour system.

The Plasmacaster is literally the Pred's go-to advanced weaponry choice and as I noted it's always active due to its auto-target so it's more than likely the Pred goes for a shot as soon as the fight starts. As for the honor of using it, Preds have no problem mass murdering those they haven't seen proven themselves worthy with the PC.

Jump up? If they wish to commit suicide they are free to do that.
In a jump (without flight) you can't change the direction of your trajectory. Makes you an easy target.

Preds can easily change their trajectory mid-air so they shouldn't have a problem here.

And, like, what do you plan to hold on to? The first thing you hit is her forcefield. Don't think you can attach a hook to that as it's not really a physical thing.

Even if the grapple hook doesn't work, the Pred can wrap their whip around the forcefield and pull her down with it.

Anyway, since you mentioned range stuff not on the profile (as vague as it is right now) let me also mention something not yet on the profile.
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[/]She apparently has the ability to trace the location of tech.

The Preds cloak protects them from sensors and radars.

Tanya has magical homing. I don't think lack of noise will prevent a magic spell from following your location

How does the Magic track targets? If it's via visual that won't work well cause the cloak and if its via something like heat the cloak also blocks that.

I will also mention the option of Tanya just blowing a bunch of mud into the air with an explosion to make the cloak dirty again. I see nothing that would really prevent that.

The Killscreen Generator is just gonna destroy the mud before it gets on the Pred so that's not gonna work. Also, there's no mud in the fighting location as far as I can tell.

Also like I said yesterday I'm prob not gonna be able to reply for the rest of the day since I'ma be busy.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Match is even enough but I'm really leaning towards the Pred rn.

 

[DemonicDude]

I have perused both arguments concerning the Range and Killscreen Generator weaponry. Mine vote shall I cast a while hence, mayhap in a few hours. As for this contest, mine inclinations now lean toward the Predator, given the newly proffered reasonings.

 

[Shadowslash125]

If only such engagement is present in the Rider match

 

[DemonicDude]

Shadowslash can smell the trophy at his finger tips

 

[Shadowslash125]

Shadowslash can smell the trophy at his finger tips

What makes you say that lol

 

[DemonicDude]

What makes you say that lol

Cause Shadowmoon kicking ass in this tourney.

 

[Shadowslash125]

This thread also has no activity. Bump.

 

[DontTalkDT]

The Pred should be using an upgraded Plasmacaster called the Blazer since they're wearing its armor.

That doesn't seem to actually be specified in the OP?

The Blazer can reach temperatures that are hotter than many stars at their core and instantly sweeps large areas unless she can handle that kind of heat with her shields she's getting charred.

Heat energy is proportional to AP of the attacks. So yeah, either that weapon isn't 9-A (disqualifying predator) or she can deal with it.

The Plasmacaster can also fire dark matter which causes a controlled energy reaction that correlates its damage to the mass of a target, letting the weapon neg dura.

I'm not sure where the conclusion that this negs dura comes from. This isn't anti-matter and energy reactions in general don't circumvent durability.
In any case, the "target" here would be Tanya's forcefields, as that is what it would hit. And those have no mass, on grounds of being energy shields. So I see no reason this works.

As I noted the Plasmacaster is much faster than those comparable to the Preds themselves and since it locks onto foes the Pred doesn't have to waste time aiming it. It can also rapid-fire making it even harder to avoid.

Mages use speed of light projectiles and other things much faster than themselves (basic machine gun bullets for instance). It's not fast in a manner relevant to Tanya.
And, like, I still see no range feats for the thing that would actually hit Tanya from the distance she would get at.

The Plasmacaster is literally the Pred's go-to advanced weaponry choice and as I noted it's always active due to its auto-target so it's more than likely the Pred goes for a shot as soon as the fight starts.

I have serious doubts that that is accurate. Or more like, there is nothing to say they even go for advanced weaponry right away.

As for the honor of using it, Preds have no problem mass murdering those they haven't seen proven themselves worthy with the PC.

But they haven't seen that for Tanya?

Preds can easily change their trajectory mid-air so they shouldn't have a problem here.

That only half solves the problem. They can't evade the disadvantage of having a predictable vertical trajectory. It is, in the end, simply not flight. Tanya can also just fly horizontally in a different direction and they will not catch up due to speed equal.

Even if the grapple hook doesn't work, the Pred can wrap their whip around the forcefield and pull her down with it.

I mean, first, that would only be something they would do on the second try then, which they don't get.

And then this also doesn't work. They wrap it around the forcefield, but the forcefield won't pull Tanya down with it. It's not like it's a solid wall anchored to her body. Or she can just briefly trigger and untrigger her active forcefield to get the whip off, by creating a wall and then making it disappear after the whip is fixed to it.

The Preds cloak protects them from sensors and radars.

This isn't a light-based radar or anything, though. It's magic.

How does the Magic track targets? If it's via visual that won't work well cause the cloak and if its via something like heat the cloak also blocks that.

By magically locking on to it. There's no scientific mechanism behind it.

The Killscreen Generator is just gonna destroy the mud before it gets on the Pred so that's not gonna work. Also, there's no mud in the fighting location as far as I can tell.

An explosion will generate the mud (or maybe call it dirt, a molten stone. Your choice). And I doubt the killscreen can actually neutralize what basically amounts to a dust cloud. It's made to vaporize projectiles in my understanding.

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Overall, I have to say that I still don't see the predator having any counterplay to sheer range. From the suggested things it can do immediately most wouldn't work at all, meaning that whole idea is already gambling on a proud race making all the right decisions fighting an unknown child, and then I actually doubt that Tanya would go down in the few seconds she would need to start getting range going.

Btw. one new point to bring up: Tanya's illusion creation is not just creating decoys. She can actually also use illusions to disguise her own shot, to fool those who try to predict her aim specifically.
The tricky aspect of this is, if we say that the decoys don't work because they have no ultaviolet presence and stuff, then that would mean neither do the magic spells Tanya shoots. So the scanners couldn't differentiated between lethal magic shot and illusion magic shot.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

So... Correct me if I am wrong but the leading arguments for Tanya is her illusion-stuff, range, flight and general AP advantage over Predator's dura (3-5x), right? While the latter's arguments are for its tech and skill (maybe?).

IMO, isn't this just a stomp? Even assuming 3x AP advantage, Tanya can still easily break past any defenses Predator has (and likely turn it into a red mist if she lands a direct hit on its chest if we go with the 5x AP advantage), and this isn't talking about the flight/range advantage that immediately nulls any counterplay Predator has... unless there is a CRT going on that increases their range.

I "vote" for Tanya, 'till won't change my mind that this is a stomp, though.

Tbh, shouldn't Tanya's sheer flight advantage been talked about prior to this tourny or smth? Like whoever wins in Kris vs. KR rune is bound to run into the same issues as Predator... 'cept maybe Tanya/Kris just get stuck in a "endless" loop due to the whole Player possessing Kris and rewinding the timeline when they die thing until they give up or find the exact method to defeat Tanya prior to her flying.

 

[Arkansalter2]

What's the consensus on this match

 

[DemonicDude]

What's the consensus on this match

Tanya outranges with Flight and Magic blasts.

 

[DemonicDude]

I guess we can finish this match today and perhaps move on the FINALE