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God Tiers upgrade, Saint Seiya. Upgrade Part 1, Staff needed

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This thread is a remake of this thread.

So, as of this thread from 2023, all dead souls and 8th sense user’s souls and minds possess 5D HDE.

There was a thread made to attempt to reverse this but considering that it never passed as it was 2 admins to 1 (the staff vote count is incorrect whether by accident or on purpose),
it was made far too soon after the original crt(as I believe you got to wait three months I think??),
and that the op was flat out wrong, I’d like to start doing something with the above upgrades

To start off, the Underworld of the god of the Underworld Hades contains the souls of the dead. The Underworld also is infinite, as stated of its hell and Elysium/paradise parts. The raws call elysium infinite instead of endless btw, although I think we can agree that endless likely means infinite. (Although I’m pretty sure we already accepted that and that’s part of why they used to be 2-C.)

This would mean that it is an infinite 5D realm, or a Low 1-C object. As Hades is quite literally a textbook example of sustaining feats, and it’s on his profile, we can then conclude that he scales to this. This would mean that every God tier manga character would scale to this, and finally not to the fodder big bang. Gods hit other gods, they tank it and hit back, thus it scales to SS, AP, and Dura.

To clarify: Souls are 5D constructs, which are infinitely smaller then the Underworld Structure, thus making the Underworld Low 1-C.
Again, SOULS are 5D, but not low 1-C. This is not the argument.

As Thanatos, who is a lesser god performed a feat of sniping at Seiya’s sister who was on earth from Elysium, which is a part of the UW, (that is supposed to house the souls of the virtuous dead) this would demonstrate that God Tiers also possess 5D range. Although this may be implicit in the fact that Hades Cosmo is sustaining such a realm.

Finally, we already accept that the Infinite cosmos of the gods grants them infinite strength, stamina, and speed. However, we neglected to extend that to Infinite lifting strength, so I propose we upgrade that as well.

In conclusion, Manga top God Tiers all get Infinite LS, possibly Low 1-C AP, SS, Dura, and Range.

Bottom God tiers ie Hypnos,etc, would get the possibly Low 1-C range, infinite LS.

Agrees:Hasty, Ziggy, Kaiou (disagrees with Inf LS), Unshake(with 5D), Reiner (With possibly Low 1-C), Re5yh, Compsito, DarkDragon (with low 1-C), Qawsed (Possibly Low 1-C), Dalesean(Possibly low 1-C) ,koolray (Inf LS, 5D range)
Neutrals:
Disagrees:
Side note, I apologize for the atrocious quality scans, I couldn’t find the viz ones, and these ones are kinda better anyways.
 
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Oh, and Poseidon was capable of TKing the gold cloths from earth to elysium, which would also be 5D range support, I’ll throw those scans in tomorrow.
 
The stat stuff is also further supported by GR, Ikkis higher D lightning riot comes to mind.
 
"Side note, I apologize for the atrocious quality scans, I couldn’t find the viz ones, and these ones are kinda better anyways."

Really? Well I know a site....
 
I think op has linked wrong crt also looking into the crt Bambu and Firestorm have agreed with the removal and ddm agreed with executor who agreed with only 5d hde and not low 1c (Yes insignificant 5d exists) also firestorm not replying back doesn't invalidate his vote and as bambu said two votes for verses like ss is enough to pass a thread so you need to make a new thread and get that accepted as low 1c first before applying
 
2 admin vs 1 admin is a contested CRT and 3 is are needed to pass.

The OP is arguing an infinite space 5D space is low 1-C, not the individual souls.
 
To start off, the Underworld of the god of the Underworld Hades contains the souls of the dead. The Underworld also is infinite, as stated of its hell and Elysium/paradise parts. The raws call elysium infinite instead of endless btw, although I think we can agree that endless likely means infinite. (Although I’m pretty sure we already accepted that and that’s part of why they used to be 2-C.)
This would mean that it is an infinite 5D realm, or a Low 1-C object. As Hades is quite literally a textbook example of sustaining feats, and it’s on his profile, we can then conclude that he scales to this. This would mean that every God tier manga character would scale to this, and finally not to the fodder big bang. Gods hit other gods, they tank it and hit back, thus it scales to SS, AP, and Dura

I think I understand what your attempting.

Though this explanation doesn't make it clear and to non-SS fans and staff they might see this as an

"Oh am infinite size is 5D crt? That ain't right." I'd recommend making the reasoning why it's 5D a bit more clear imo
 
Your thread concluded that 8th sense souls, and dead soul are 5D. Obviously they don’t count for low 1-c tho.
The underworld is containing them, and thus is also of the same scale. And because it is infinite, it is not insignificant 5D, but rather 5D Low 1-C.
 
get that accepted as low 1c first before applying
This again isn’t the argument. I’m not saying souls are low 1-c themselves. They aren’t, they are just 5D constructs of whatever size, it just doesn’t really matter here. Actually I’m pretty sure no previous thread argued this
Also, thanks for letting me know about the wrong link
 
Your thread concluded that 8th sense souls, and dead soul are 5D. Obviously they don’t count for low 1-c tho.
The underworld is containing them, and thus is also of the same scale. And because it is infinite, it is not insignificant 5D, but rather 5D Low 1-C.
Im a bit confused by the reasoning here.

They don't count as low 1-C but they are 5D at the same time?
 
Yes. Much like how a very small space time wouldn’t count for Low 2-C, it’s the same logic.
 
Im a bit confused by the reasoning here.

They don't count as low 1-C but they are 5D at the same time?
This is a weird attempt at obfuscating what is in realty very simple.

The souls are insignificant 5D. The Underworld is a significant 5D structure attributed to the fact it can hold 5D objects and is in and of itself an infinite structure.
 
This is a weird attempt at obfuscating what is in realty very simple.

The souls are insignificant 5D. The Underworld is a significant 5D structure attributed to the fact it can hold 5D objects and is in and of itself an infinite structure.
I'm just trying to understand the reasoning here.

Low 1-C is 5D so it has to be both (HDE) but the OP is saying they are not low 1-C but 5D


And 4D structures are insignificant 5D too for example. Technically anything below uncountably infinite x 4D is an insignificant 5D structure.

If the reasoning is 2-A; 4D 8th senses souls are insignificant to an infinite sized structure. That's a solid reasoning I can get behind. And that should be explained better for staff to see
 
And 4D structures are insignificant 5D too for example. Technically anything below uncountably infinite x 4D is an insignificant 5D structure.
Sure, but these aren’t 4D structures we are talking about. It’s a 5D one, as accepted, as the souls have ascended beyond the universe.
 
A realm that that can contain all the dead 5D souls of the infinite multiverse isn't a compelling reason?
That's not the reasoning I'm seeing though.

If anything that would make the UW infinitely high into 5D or possibly even 6D
 
That's not the reasoning I'm seeing though.
Underworld Hades contains the souls of the dead.
The Underworld also is infinite
all dead souls and 8th sense user’s souls and minds possess 5D HDE.
This would mean that it is an infinite 5D realm, or a Low 1-C object

If anything that would make the UW infinitely high into 5D or possibly even 6D
It makes it baseline low 1-C. Textbook even.
 
It makes it baseline low 1-C. Textbook even.
That's a good reasonings that should be explained a but better in the op imo

And I'd advise aganjst calling them "insignificant 5D" because that's a broad term that encompasses almoat everything that isn't true 5D like timelines, and universes and multiverses because technically they are along a 5D axis but just insignificant so

This probably going to be my last message today
 
Given that that is my reasoning, can I add you to the agree section?
Yes, but make sure you clearly state the reasoning in the OP because otherwise its misleading and looks like 8th sense souls are like 4D.

Their insignificant in comparison to the size of the UW but their not insignificant 5D
 
Well, the logic obviously works. The only thing capable of containing a 5D object is a 5D plane, and if this plane is infinite, then it becomes low 1C. Personally, I thought that only the souls of Eighth Sense users had been accepted as having a 5D existence, not all souls in general.
 
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