JJK - Yuji Downgrades: Enhanced NPI & Extrasensory Perception

[BahamutQ0]

As the title suggests, I want to remove Yuji's soul damage from his Fearsome Womb to Kyoto Goodwill Event key.

The evidence for Yuji's soul damage is: (Soul; Harmed Mahito's soul by physically punching him due to learning to perceive the contours of the soul).

I view it to be extremely inconsistent with the series itself as a whole because of the constant contradications appearing throughout the series as it progresses as it suggests something entirely different than soul damage.

Argument 1.)

Mahito states that to damage his soul, one first must be capable of perceiving the contours of their own souls in order to do so. But if that's the case, then why does Mahito's statement holds so much precedence? After all, in that point in time he wasn't aware of the contours of his own soul so he simply couldn't really know if his soul was in fact damaged. After getting hit, he laughed it off. Calling the attack "interesting", while still being unaware of what happened to him. It's only a moment after, that his nose begins to bleed that he finally questions what has happened.

And that's not all. Mahito in the scans is also reaching a conclusion based off on pure speculation as well, proven by his figure of speech.

Basing the whole evidence for Yuji's soul damage on Mahito's speculated reached conclusion should be a no. Especially if there's no further supportive evidence other than his speculated reached conclusions.

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Argument 2.)

Shortly after the events of Chapter 27 (In reference to Argument 1), it's been confirmed in Chapter 29 that Yuji has been harming Mahito's soul subconsciously.

So if Yuji truly been inflicting soul damage subconsciously this whole time, then I don't see how it's possible that Yuji haven't attacked the souls of Todo, Kechizu, Eso, Choso, Hanami, and many others more, subconsciously as well. He must have and that's why there's a contradiction because Hanami actually proceeds to heal from an injury she received from Yuji's supposed soul damage. Something that shouldn't be possible according to the narrator in Chapter 252, which refers to SSK, a weapon that his sole purpose is to directly cut the soul.

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Argument 3.)

Sukuna in Chapter 250 confirms that the reason behind Yuji's effective attacks against Mahito were actually the "barrier" attacks all along. Therefore, unless you don't think Sukuna's word is insufficient, then there's no reason for disagreements. But if Sukuna's word is insufficient, then whose word is possibly equivalent to that of Sukuna's exactly? Who else shared a body with Yuji, was there when Yuji fought Mahito, witnessed Yuji's abilities against Mahito first hand, and possesses the ability to perceive souls and barriers? No one, but Sukuna.

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Argument 4.)

As all of these arguments go by, it's easy to forget the reasoning behind Yuji's soul damage (Refer back to Argument 1), but it's important not to, because if that was the sole reason as to why Yuji is physically capable of damaging the soul, then of course those who followed the same procedure should present the same result, but there's the thing, none of them did. In Episode 21, after Mahito understood the contours of his own soul he didn’t strike Yuji's soul as you might expect—if you take Mahito's speculative conclusion at face value, that is. And instead, he directly attacked the barrier that Yuji shares with Sukuna. That was the first thing Mahito did after understanding the contours of his own soul. Still no soul damage present anywhere in sight.

Additionally, the same applies to Sukuna—except he never attacked anyone’s barrier or their soul in the first place.

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In conclusion:

Yuji's soul damage from his Fearsome Womb to Kyoto Goodwill Event key will be removed and instead would be listed as:

Enhanced Non-Physical Interaction & Extrasensory Perception (Barrier; Harmed Mahito by physically punching his barrier due to learning how to perceive the contours of the soul and sensing barriers)

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Agree:

Disagree: Godernet, EldemadeDityjon, Success0906, Reiner04, Duedate8898, Ebihara, AyOgUyS, DarkRuler234, DragonEmperor23

Neutral:

 

[Arkenis]

Can you shrink the scans.

 

[Reiner04]

Can you shrink the scans.

@BahamutQ0 shrink tge images or just link them. Ur scans are covering the entire screen.

 

[Nierre]

i shrunk them myself

 

[BahamutQ0]

I already did, twice, but thanks I guess.

 

[Godernet]

Argument 1.) As Mahito states, for one to be able to "damage" his soul, they first must be capable of perceiving the contours of their own soul in the first place, and if that's the case, then how come Mahito, who in that point in time wasn't aware of the contours of his own soul to begin with, could explain and give a reliable information about what it is that actually affected him?

While the proposed evidence is interpreted correctly, it's still not coming from a reliable source of information.

I don't think Mahito not knowing his soul's true shape discredits him from knowing how his own Invulnerability works at all.

Especially when he was hit several times by other sorcerers and Yuji to be able to compare how the two different types of attacks affected him, and it consistently affected him the exact way he described with no inconsistencies up to his death.

His soul's true shape is a more esoteric thing that pertains to him as an individual, not an aspect of his soul manipulation ability that he wasn't aware of that completely changes how his powerset works.

the correlation doesn't really make sense and kinda feels like needless skepticism imo.

Argument 2.) Shortly after the events in Chapter 27, it's been confirmed in Chapter 29 that Yuji has been hitting Mahito's "soul" subconsciously without a clue:

If Yuji been inflicting "soul damage" subconsciously all this time, then how is it possible that Yuji haven't attacked the souls of Todo, Kechizu, Eso, Choso, and Hanami, who actually proceeds to heal from the injury they received from Yuji while they're unaware of their own soul, something that shouldn't be possible per the narrator in Chapter 252.

For one, who's to say he hasn't been attacking the souls of Todo, Kechizu, Eso, Choso, and Hanami?

Jujutsu Sorcerers can take hits to the soul, we see Mahito admitting to not being able to kill certain powerful sorcerers with one usage of his ability.

And his soul manip is far more powerful than Yuji's

Mahito can violently rupture people by tampering with their souls and in one to two shots take out even decently strong sorcerers.

Yuji needed endless punches, amps via black flash, and assistance for his soul punches to deal significant damage to Mahito or a heavily weakened Sukuna.

As for the Narrator, he never says soul damage can't be healed by RCT.

He specifically says when a person that can perceive their soul uses the Soul Split Katana, they can't heal normally with RCT without knowledge of their soul's contours.

Because the soul is being fragmented at that point, not just damaged.

We know souls can eventually heal or the damage done is inconsequential until it hits zero because when Yuji fought Mahito, he had his soul dropped to 10%, and he moves on from that fight with no lasting consequences or prolonged damage.

Mahito was also damaged by Yuji and Sukuna in their first fight, but didn't seem in any worse shape when we see him in Shibuya because of it.

Mahito also damaged Nanami's soul the first time they met and Nanami was fine with no lasting consequences at the start of Shibuya, with no RCT or knowledge of his souls contours.

Nobara got facepalmed by Mahito and put in a coma from her eye exploding, yet she seemingly woke up with no long term issues, without any perception of her soul or RCT.

Argument 3.) Sukuna in Chapter 250 confirms that the secret behind Yuji's effective attacks against Mahito were actually the "barrier" attacks. Yuji was Sukuna's vessel during the time Yuji fought Mahito, so there's no one who's more familiar with Yuji's technique than him. And just like Yuji, Sukuna is too aware of his own soul, so unlike Mahito in my first refutation, Sukuna is much more reliable.

This doesn't really mean what you're implying,

Sukuna says that the principle behind what Yuji was doing is the same as with Mahito, not that this was some secret real thing that Yuji was doing all along.

the principle in reference is Yuji's ability to interact with the soul.

the application is just different

against Mahito, Yuji would subconsciously beat him to inflict damage and due to his perception of his soul, his punches inflicted damage directly to Mahito's soul.

against Sukuna, he is purposefully aiming to hit the fine line between Megumi's soul and Sukuna's soul to split them in order to not kill Megumi while still hurting Sukuna with every punch.

overall I disagree with the thread.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Pretty much disagree FRA
@Godernet explained it better.

 

[Deleted member 40129]

I Godernet makes the most sense here

 

[Reiner04]

Pretty much disagree FRA
@Godernet explained it better.

*wanked it better.

 

[BahamutQ0]

I don't think Mahito not knowing his soul's true shape discredits him from knowing how his own Invulnerability works at all.

Especially when he was hit several times by other sorcerers and Yuji to be able to compare how the two different types of attacks affected him, and it consistently affected him the exact way he described with no inconsistencies up to his death.

His soul's true shape is a more esoteric thing that pertains to him as an individual, not an aspect of his soul manipulation ability that he wasn't aware of that completely changes how his powerset works.

the correlation doesn't really make sense and kinda feels like needless skepticism imo.

I think it does based on evidence, and Mahito gives it away himself. He doesn't actually know what happens to him down to that level. He's simply clinging onto the idea that his soul would always retain its shape.

This panel alone is just ironic.

For one, who's to say he hasn't been attacking the souls of Todo, Kechizu, Eso, Choso, and Hanami?

If Yuji did, then Hanami couldn't have healed herself, but she did. Look at the scan in the OP.

As for the Narrator, he never says soul damage can't be healed by RCT.

He specifically says when a person that can perceive their soul uses the Soul Split Katana, they can't heal normally with RCT without knowledge of their soul's contours.

Never proposed otherwise? You can heal with RCT, on the condition that you're aware of your own soul. Which brings us back to the Hanami point, does she have soul RCT or Yuji just doesn't really hit the soul?

This doesn't really mean what you're implying,

Sukuna says that the principle behind what Yuji was doing is the same as with Mahito, not that this was some secret real thing that Yuji was doing all along.

the principle in reference is Yuji's ability to interact with the soul.

the application is just different

against Mahito, Yuji would subconsciously beat him to inflict damage and due to his perception of his soul, his punches inflicted damage directly to Mahito's soul.

against Sukuna, he is purposefully aiming to hit the fine line between Megumi's soul and Sukuna's soul to split them in order to not kill Megumi while still hurting Sukuna with every punch.

It's in reference to the "barrier". I mean, it's in the scan.

Just for clarity's sake, I should mention that at the end of the day you believe that Yuji acquired the ability to attack the "souls" from the fact he's aware of his own soul, now here's the problem, both Sukuna and Mahito (In Shibuya) are aware of their own souls. Do they ever damaged anyone's soul with their punches? No. Do they ever attack anyone's barrier with their punches? Yes. Where? In season 2 ep 21. Mahito, after realizing the true shape of his soul, is seen hitting Yuji's barrier with Sukuna with a punch. They even share the same trembling effects.

So, in conclusion, if they're all the same, what makes Yuji special? He literally just acquired it like how everybody else did when they simply realized the outline of their own soul.

 

[Duedate8898]

I disagree for much the same reasons as stated by @Godernet, but I would also like to add another point towards the disagreement and that is how the soul and body are very closely tied in JJK. The entire idea established through Mahito's soul manipulation is that the shape of the soul in part can determine the shape of body and that's not just supposed to be a quirk of his techinque but the nature of souls in general. As seen in part with Toji's revival. Essentially, in JJK to affect the body is also inherently to affect the soul and its very hard to get one without the other. So a reasonable explanation as to why soul damage isn't noted with Yuji's other opponents lies in that there souls are already probably getting damaged as their bodies are and that's not any different than normal for most people, Mahito is just able to attack in the opposite way and isolate his soul from the damage his body should normally take. Hence why also, something like a domain or simple domain strips his defenses as his natural inclination to isolate his soul from damage is negated through those means.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

*wanked it better.

Yeah, my bad, that wank is better.
Thought you were @Huesito88 for a minute.
You should be sued for copying.

Anyway what's your take on this thread and counter arguments

 

[DarkRuler234]

I will simply disagree FRA.

 

[Ebihara]

I disagree as well, none of these arguments are very compelling to me and I think have been thoroughly addressed by other people.

 

[AyOgUyS]

Disagree FRA

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I think it does based on evidence, and Mahito gives it away himself. He doesn't actually know what happens to him down to that level. He's simply clinging onto the idea that his soul would always retain its shape.

This panel alone is just ironic.

He's right though, his soul will always retain his shape unless it's attacked directly. Him getting surprised by Yuji injuring him isn't against that, it's proof for that because that's how Yuji injured his soul.

If Yuji did, then Hanami couldn't have healed herself, but she did. Look at the scan in the OP.

Never proposed otherwise? You can heal with RCT, on the condition that you're aware of your own soul. Which brings us back to the Hanami point, does she have soul RCT or Yuji just doesn't really hit the soul?

Net explained this. In the fight between Yuji, Mahito, and Todo, Mahito says that Yuji's soul is 10% and his own soul is at 40%. If all forms of soul damage are permanent without RCT from a person that can perceive the soul, then Yuji would have been crippled in that fight. Since he clearly recovered from that, I think the more likely outcome is that specifically damage to the soul caused by the Split Soul Katana requires Soul RCT to heal otherwise you can heal soul damage with regular healing.

 

[Reiner04]

Yeah, my bad, that wank is better.
Thought you were @Huesito88 for a minute.
You should be sued for copying.

Anyway what's your take on this thread and counter arguments

I also thinks @Godernet makes sense here. Disagree with the thread.

 

[BahamutQ0]

I disagree for much the same reasons as stated by @Godernet, but I would also like to add another point towards the disagreement and that is how the soul and body are very closely tied in JJK. The entire idea established through Mahito's soul manipulation is that the shape of the soul in part can determine the shape of body and that's not just supposed to be a quirk of his techinque but the nature of souls in general. As seen in part with Toji's revival. Essentially, in JJK to affect the body is also inherently to affect the soul and its very hard to get one without the other. So a reasonable explanation as to why soul damage isn't noted with Yuji's other opponents lies in that there souls are already probably getting damaged as their bodies are and that's not any different than normal for most people, Mahito is just able to attack in the opposite way and isolate his soul from the damage his body should normally take. Hence why also, something like a domain or simple domain strips his defenses as his natural inclination to isolate his soul from damage is negated through those means.

I don't think that's relevant nor supposed to invalidate any of my arguments, but that's a very flawed intreptation of the case of things. Mahito says that the shape of the body would always be dependent on the shape of the soul, and that's what he believed and continued to believe in even after his conversation with Kenjaku. So, no. To say that whatever the body experiences the soul would experience too, is false.

 

[BahamutQ0]

He's right though, his soul will always retain his shape unless it's attacked directly. Him getting surprised by Yuji injuring him isn't against that, it's proof for that because that's how Yuji injured his soul.

I don't think so because Mahito was clearly unaware of his own injury, and only after he could tangibly see his injury, did he realize he was hurt. Mahito purely goes off of speculation here. He's not in the least credible enough. However, Sukuna who has been in Yuji's body and is aware of his own soul clarifies and brings new information to light, and what he states is that Yuji's effective attacks against Mahito were the "barrier" ones all along. There's simply too much contradictions with the idea that Yuji in specifically who simply learned how to perceive his own soul could attack the soul directly, while other characters who learned the very same principle can't. There's no logic behind it at all.

Net explained this. In the fight between Yuji, Mahito, and Todo, Mahito says that Yuji's soul is 10% and his own soul is at 40%. If all forms of soul damage are permanent without RCT from a person that can perceive the soul, then Yuji would have been crippled in that fight. Since he clearly recovered from that, I think the more likely outcome is that specifically damage to the soul caused by the Split Soul Katana requires Soul RCT to heal otherwise you can heal soul damage with regular healing.

This is in relation to soul power and not the actual health of the soul. And why do we still ignore the fact he estimates that based on personal assumptions? And let's say for the sake of argument that what Mahito said is indeed true, what then, like to what conclusion are we getting at to? That soul damage can only be healed through soul RCT or that soul damage can be healed with normal RCT? Which directly contradicts the narrator in Chapter 252.

SSK's sole purpose is to ultimately attack the soul, and certain CTs also work on that level.

 

[Godernet]

None of these things you brought up discredit Mahito as a reliable source of information.

Mahito is surprised that a sorcerer can hurt him by attacking his soul because 99% of them can't do that.

And not having knowledge of the true shape of his own soul, which again has nothing to do with his powerset or perceiving the contours of the soul.

It's quite literally treated along the lines of self-discovery of his true self, his powerset doesn't change after this, his ability to manipulate souls doesn't evolve and he doesn't have more in-depth knowledge about souls suddenly.

All he did was find the shape he was supposed to be, something that had nothing to do with his actual mechanical knowledge of souls and his own technique.

If an Author has a character with a unique ability to interact with something esoteric (like the soul) make inferences about what's happening, and those inferences hold true for the entire series, they were more than likely meant to be portrayed as a figure of authority and a stand-in for the author to feed a bit of exposition.

Mahito not knowing himself and that other people have the ability to interact with the soul without Idle Transfiguration, doesn't discredit his knowledge of how literal souls work.

 

[BahamutQ0]

Mahito clearly has no idea what he’s talking about. The constant contradictions just give it away:

1.) His statement directly contradicts Sukuna’s in Chapter 250

2.) Hanami directly healing her arm via CE from Yuji’s supposed “subconscious soul attacks”

3.) Yuji never damaging anyone else’ soul subconsciously (Refer back to point 2)

4.) The very fact that both Mahito (In Shibuya) and Sukuna perceived their souls and yet, never managed to damage anyone’s soul.

5.) The very fact that Mahito after perceiving his own soul learned how to affect one’s barrier rather than one’s soul.

To say none of these clear cut and simple contradictions don’t prove Mahito is wrong in regard to Yuji’s soul damaging physical attacks is disingenuous. Even more so when you take into account the fact you never provided any reason as to why they don’t discredit Mahito’s reliability in this subject.

The rant about Mahito’s abilities isn’t relevant here. This is like the 5th time someone tries to argue about something completely random as if I proposed it in the first place.

 

[Godernet]

Mahito clearly has no idea what he’s talking about. The constant contradictions just give it away:

1.) His statement directly contradicts Sukuna’s in Chapter 250

2.) Hanami directly healing her arm via CE from Yuji’s supposed “subconscious soul attacks”

3.) Yuji never damaging anyone else’ soul subconsciously (Refer back to point 2)

4.) The very fact that both Mahito (In Shibuya) and Sukuna perceived their souls and yet, never managed to damage anyone’s soul.

5.) The very fact that Mahito after perceiving his own soul learned how to affect one’s barrier rather than one’s soul.

To say none of these clear cut and simple contradictions don’t prove Mahito is wrong in regards to Yuji’s soul damaging physical attacks is disingenuous.

I already explained why none of these are contradictions and if anything misinterpretations on your end of what's being said.

just let the staff take a look and see if your arguments hold up with them

 

[BahamutQ0]

Misinterpretations. Of course.

If Yuji been inflicting "soul damage" subconsciously all this time, then how is it possible that Yuji haven't attacked the souls of Todo, Kechizu, Eso, Choso, and Hanami, who actually proceeds to heal from the injury they received from Yuji while they're unaware of their own soul, something that shouldn't be possible per the narrator in Chapter 252.

2.) Hanami directly healing her arm via CE from Yuji’s supposed “subconscious soul attacks”

3.) Yuji never damaging anyone else’ soul subconsciously (Refer back to point 2)

For one, who's to say he hasn't been attacking the souls of Todo, Kechizu, Eso, Choso, and Hanami?.

I already explained why none of these are contradictions and if anything misinterpretations on your end of what's being said.

I cannot compare to that reading comprehension. You are right and I am wrong. Is it too late to apologize for the unintentional straw man?

 

[Deleted member 40129]

Misinterpretations.




I cannot compare. You are right and I am wrong. Is it too late to apologize for the unintentional straw man?

It's never too late. It happens. Just ask someone to close the thread. Cake for you

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I don't think so because Mahito was clearly unaware of his own injury, and only after he could tangibly see his injury, did he realize he was hurt. Mahito purely goes off of speculation here. He's not in the least credible enough. However, Sukuna who has been in Yuji's body and is aware of his own soul clarifies and brings new information to light, and what he states is that Yuji's effective attacks against Mahito were the "barrier" ones all along. There's simply too much contradictions with the idea that Yuji in specifically who simply learned how to perceive his own soul could attack the soul directly, while other characters who learned the very same principle can't. There's no logic behind it at all.

In the Sukuna fight, Yuji targets the barrier between Sukuna's soul and Megumi's soul and it destroys Sukuna's possession of Megumi. There is no barrier for a person with one soul. This is what Sukuna says.

"...There's this. It's the same logic behind his effective attacks against the patchface cursed spirit. He can sense it. He's aiming directly for the barrier between my soul and Fushiguro Megumi's."

The same logic is talking about how Yuji has the ability to sense souls. I don't really understand the argument that Sukuna is talking about how Yuji's been hitting barriers this whole time. What barrier between souls would he be hitting when he strikes Mahito?

This is in relation to soul power and not the actual health of the soul. And why do we still ignore the fact he estimates that based on personal assumptions? And let's say for the sake of argument that what Mahito said is indeed true, what then, like to what conclusion are we getting at to? That soul damage can only be healed through soul RCT or that soul damage can be healed with normal RCT? Which directly contradicts the narrator in Chapter 252.

SSK's sole purpose is to ultimately attack the soul, and certain CTs also work on that level.

Mahito's exact words are "The topknot gorilla's soul is at full health."

I think normal soul damage can be healed through regular healing and that it is specifically wounds caused by the Split Soul Katana that require Soul RCT.

"If the Split Soul Katana is wielded by an individual capable of perceiving the soul, the wound imparted by them cannot ordinarily be healed through the use of the Reverse Cursed Technique...for one would need to be aware of the outline of their own soul to do so."

I think the way this is worded implies that it requires someone with soul sight and the katana to cause wounds that require Soul RCT to heal, not that all soul damage in general requires Soul RCT.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So was this flat out rejected?

 

[BahamutQ0]

In the Sukuna fight, Yuji targets the barrier between Sukuna's soul and Megumi's soul and it destroys Sukuna's possession of Megumi. There is no barrier for a person with one soul. This is what Sukuna says.

I agree with Sukuna, but exceptions exist in JJK unfortunately and Sukuna already mentioned one by name: Mahito.

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"...There's this. It's the same logic behind his effective attacks against the patchface cursed spirit. He can sense it. He's aiming directly for the barrier between my soul and Fushiguro Megumi's."

The same logic is talking about how Yuji has the ability to sense souls. I don't really understand the argument that Sukuna is talking about how Yuji's been hitting barriers this whole time. What barrier between souls would he be hitting when he strikes Mahito?

How does the same logic referenced in the quote refers to Yuji's ability to sense souls exactly? You haven't explained yourself.

"... There's this. It's the same logic behind his effective attacks against the patchface cursed spirit. He can sense it. He's aiming directly for the barrier between my soul and Fushiguro Megumi's."

Sukuna refers to the barrier solely here. He directly addresses the barrier right after Yuji attacks him and as Yuji's attack disrupts the barrier. The same logic that's being referenced here is obviously the barrier. This is pointless to go into circles about when it's so plainly obvious.

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What barrier between souls would he be hitting when he strikes Mahito?

According to Sukuna, simply a barrier. Unless you don't take Sukuna's word for it you have no reason to reject his claim, but if you do then whose word is possibly equivalent to that of Sukuna's exactly? Who else shared a body with Yuji, was there when Yuji fought Mahito, witnessed Yuji's abilities against Mahito first hand, and possesses the ability to perceive souls and barriers?

That covers why Mahito undoubtedly has a barrier.

The how (Which is much more argumentative in nature) comes from the way Mahito himself interacts with the world as his CT shapes it for him. Because of that, Mahito is capable of pulling off feats that are largely considered to be impossible.

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Mahito's exact words are "The topknot gorilla's soul is at full health."

Just a metaphor.

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"If the Split Soul Katana is wielded by an individual capable of perceiving the soul, the wound imparted by them cannot ordinarily be healed through the use of the Reverse Cursed Technique...for one would need to be aware of the outline of their own soul to do so."

I think the way this is worded implies that it requires someone with soul sight and the katana to cause wounds that require Soul RCT to heal, not that all soul damage in general requires Soul RCT.

Specify what do you mean by normal soul damage because there's no difference between the type of damage that SSK does and Yuji's punches (That you believe inflict soul damage).

It's just that SSK functions best when an individual capable of perceiving the soul wields it, as it can then be utilized properly for its designed purpose.

 

[Duedate8898]

@BahamutQ0 I will have to ask, why you have multiple people marked down in your OP who have provided reasoning for their disagreement (me included) as having no reason for their disagreement?

 

[BahamutQ0]

Simply saying "I disagree FRA" isn't a valid reasoning. It's an easy way to disagree on a topic over personal preferences.

Although you did expand on your disagreement, you still haven't made relevant counterarguments that are related to the character in question. It may be applicable to Kenjaku and perhaps for other characters as well but not for Mahito in this case.

 

[Ebihara]

I disagree FRA" isn't a valid reasoning.

So you rather dishonestly represent it?

 

[Ebihara]

Although you did expand on your disagreement, you still haven't made relevant counterarguments that are related to the character in question. It may be applicable to Kenjaku and perhaps for other characters as well but not for Mahito in this case.

So even if they do have a reason if you disagree with it. It's no reason. Ok

 

[BahamutQ0]

I don't think so. If it's not relevant to the discussion then it's not really a reasoning against it.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I don't think so.

FRA means For Reasons Above.

Frankly, it doesn't matter if you don't think the reasons are sufficient. A vote, unless obviously made is jest, is a vote. Remove the "No reasons given" and try not to get permanently banned before your message count hits triple digits, alright?

 

[Vietthai96]

OP requested to close this thread