The God of High School - New calc, low tier revisions, and fixing Mori Jin's keys

[DavidTPPM]

New accepted calc and values​

First things first, we have a new accepted calculation for base part 3 Mori. This replaces Moris current statement-based scaling to 5-B with an actual 5-B feat.

Spoiler: Scaling from base Mori

In this thread it was accepted that Mori Hui scales to at least 5% of base Mori Jins power, and end of part 4 Mira/Daewi scale to 40% of base Mori Jins power. So their new values would go like this:

Base Mori Jin: 5-B (190.9 Zettatons)
Base Mori Hui: Low 5-B (9.54 Zettatons)
Mira and Daewi: 5-B (76.36 Zettatons)

In-universe revisions​

Currently, in-universe scaling for pre-TS low and mid tiers is a bit in shambles (admittedly thanks to me) so I'm going to try to fix it.

Spoiler: New scaling for the big boys

Mira and Daewi are stated by Romario to be "small fry" compared to the executives.
They're also on par with high level priests who were on the same level as executives so it's pretty consistent.

Jegal is said to also be on par with high rank priests after absorbing the key.
The physically weakest 6-A (base Sujin), who basically every tier 6 scales off of, boxed up the same Mori who did the 5-B feat.

So the values will be:
Priests and executives: 5-B (76.36 Zettatons)
Taek Jegal key absorbed: 5-B (76.36 Zettatons)
Current 6-A characters: 5-B (190.9 Zettatons)

Fixing a formatting(?) issue​

Moris keys are a bit messed up. For some reason his world comp arc has his adventure arc stats. His stats don't reflect his power during that point in the story but instead reflect it from previous arcs.

Spoiler: Putting correct tiers in correct keys

To fix it we'll go with what M2u12 suggested, Mori should have his 4-A rating in his world comp key already, as that's the Mori who actually did the feat (it's jus revealed later in a flashback). I'm not going to address any value upgrades yet as I want to reserve that for a future more focused CRT. Furthermore we should remove Mori Hui as a borrowed power for Mori. The final fight blatantly stated Mori never had a borrowed power until then, meaning Hui wasn't an actual BP.

So now the keys would look like this:
World Comp:

At least Planet level (Stronger than his previous base form), Multi-Solar System level with Monkey King Mode (Is 190,000x weaker than his Jeabongchim 190,000x mode), higher with Power Mode (Greatly increases Mori's Attack Power), up to Galaxy level, possibly Multi-Galaxy level with Jeahbongchim Acupuncture (Can multiply his power by 190,000x), even higher with Martial Arts (Can increase his attack power by using Martial Arts)

Ragnarok:

At least Planet level (Far stronger than his previous base form), Multi-Solar System level with Monkey King Mode (Much stronger than before, should be comparable to Mori Hui), higher with Power Mode (Greatly increases Mori's Attack Power), up to Galaxy level, possibly Multi-Galaxy level with Jeahbongchim Acupuncture (Can multiply his power by 250,000x, destroyed all of Satan's 2 quintillion clones in a single kick), even higher with Martial Arts (Can increase his attack power by using Martial Arts)

A small issue with priest scaling​

There is a small contradiction that I want to address. Nobody else would probably bring it up anyway but I feel like I need to address it anyway.
Mira, Daewi, and other characters already fight priests in their Low 7-B keys and are shown pretty relative (although not strong enough to do significant harm).
This creates a pretty annoying contradiction

Spoiler: To address the problem

Now the contradiction here is that it's painfully inconsistent. In part 3 Mira defeats the priest and she's specifically highlighted to be "level 9" with a 2x multiplier (so level 18).
But, at the very start of the next arc Mira is shown to be level 28, specially highlighting how she's much stronger she has gotten since the the past arc. Meaning she should absolutely dogwalk anyone on the level of Saturn, especially given how she basically blitzed Saturn in part 3.
And yet when she fights Kyoichi, someone who was at first much stronger than her to a point of awe, she claims he's "almost as strong as the priest from Oraeguk". Meaning the scaling we're being presented here is:

Priest Saturn ~ Kyoichi >>> early part 4 Mira > part 3 jeahbongchim Mira > Priest Saturn

Obviously this is self contradictory and I believe it's because the author decided he wants the priests to be much stronger later in the series. This is very much in character for Yongje as he eventually retconned and recontextualized a LOT of things in part 3.
So how do we go about it? I believe the most logical way is to simply disregard the part 3 priest fights in regards to the priests actual power as a retconned outlier. Not only are they narratively far less important (a stepping stone in part 3 vs basically a character conclusion in part 5) but try to highlight that Mira and Daewi can't beat priests until the very end. It's essentially 1 small feat (Mira beating a priest) that contradicts everything pretty much on it's own.

TL;DR​

• New calc replaces the current baseline planet level statement (Minor base Mori level upgrade)
• Named executives and high tier priests now scale to part 4 Mira and Daewi (Executive/Priest upgrade)
• Moris keys get a minor revamp for accuracy
• Part 3 Mira and Daewi do NOT scale to priests as it's constantly contradicted (no rating change).

Agree (the correct choice): M2u12, Yeolban, Oblivion_Of_The_Endless
Disagree (eww take a shower):

 

[DavidTPPM]

You wouldn't believe the amount of procrastinating I did when making the thread. I had the thing in mind months ago and only got to actually writing it last week

 

[M2u12]

You wouldn't believe the amount of procrastinating I did when making the thread.

Not as much as me

 

[M2u12]

Everything look good but i have 1 concern in my mind.

I remember suggesting using KE for this calc in General Discussion, but David and Azontr told me that it wouldn't work because the staff that expanding inside the moon was likely moving at FTL speed.

So my question was, won't that apply to new accept calc too?

and last thing WTF is "Giant Yeoui " Tag .

 

[DavidTPPM]

Everything look good but i have 1 concern in my mind.

I remember suggesting using KE for this calc in General Discussion, but David and Azontr told me that it wouldn't work because the staff that expanding inside the moon was likely moving at FTL speed.

So my question was, won't that apply to new accept calc too?

Because the Yeoui is not expanding at FTL speeds here. Well at least not according to calculation rules

 

[M2u12]

Because the Yeoui is not expanding at FTL speeds here.

Then why is Yeoui not expanding at FTL speeds here? Like it doesn't have something that well reduce Yeoui speeds either, since he extends his Yeoui from earth to the atmosphere without even passing through any Obstacle, which means that while the staff is expanding, it will definitely be going at FTL speeds.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Then why is Yeoui not expanding at FTL speeds here? Like it doesn't have something that well reduce Yeoui speeds either, since he extends his Yeoui from earth to the atmosphere without even passing through any Obstacle, which means that while the staff is expanding, it will definitely be going at FTL speeds.

Because for calculation purposes you have to look at individual scenes without using previously calculated values. So even tho Yeouis previously calced speed reach up to MFTL+, there's nothing in this specific scene that would indicate it's moving at that FTL speed. It's only moving about 100k km, and standard calculation assumptions would be 1 second.

So in other words the only way this could be considered FTL is through calc stacking, which isn't allowed.

 

[M2u12]

Because for calculation purposes you have to look at individual scenes without using previously calculated values. So even tho Yeouis previously calced speed reach up to MFTL+, there's nothing in this specific scene that would indicate it's moving at that FTL speed. It's only moving about 100k km, and standard calculation assumptions would be 1 second.

So in other words the only way this could be considered FTL is through calc stacking, which isn't allowed.

Then it's fine, I guess.

 

[M2u12]

i think i agree with everything in this CRT but one thing i would like to add is there should be a note explaining why Mira and Daewi in part 3 don't scale to 5-B even though they beat the Priests, something like that.

 

[Yeolban]

looks good

 

[DavidTPPM]

Bump

 

[DavidTPPM]

Bump

 

[DavidTPPM]

Ah, the curse of niche series in-universe revisions (bump)

 

[DavidTPPM]

Another one bumps the dust

 

[DavidTPPM]

Bump

 

[DavidTPPM]

Big Ugly Moisty Ping

 

[DavidTPPM]

Bump

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Looks fine.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Let's goooooooo first staff approval!!

 

[DavidTPPM]

Bump (please just one more )

 

[Reiner04]

Agree.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Raaaaah let's gooo it only took a week!!!

 

[IDK3465]

I have little, if any knowledge about this verse and you can correct me if I’m wrong, but by the looks of it, I have a bit of an issue in regards to the calc.
The mass of Yeoui is assumed to be comparable to Mars due to Uriel, who is shown to hold back Mars has her arms ripped off upon picking Yeoui up. The problem with this is that her feat of stopping Mars and when she struggles to pick up Yeoui is five chapters apart. Unless if the two events didn’t happen that far apart chronologically, or there’s some statement directly comparing Yeoui to Mars, I feel like this would count as calc stacking.

Again, correct me if I’m wrong, but it just feels weird to make this kind of assumption imo.

 

[M2u12]

I have little, if any knowledge about this verse and you can correct me if I’m wrong, but by the looks of it, I have a bit of an issue in regards to the calc.
The mass of Yeoui is assumed to be comparable to Mars due to Uriel, who is shown to hold back Mars has her arms ripped off upon picking Yeoui up. The problem with this is that her feat of stopping Mars and when she struggles to pick up Yeoui is five chapters apart. Unless if the two events didn’t happen that far apart chronologically, or there’s some statement directly comparing Yeoui to Mars, I feel like this would count as calc stacking.

Again, correct me if I’m wrong, but it just feels weird to make this kind of assumption imo.

1. It happened during the same event, Uriel was fighting Daewi. After that, Mori escaped from the Heavenly Realm, and then he fought Uriel.

2. There is no calc stacking here, since we are not "using results from one calculation in order to calculate other feats."

 

[DavidTPPM]

I feel like this would count as calc stacking.

What M2u12 said is true but to add, calc stacking page also mentioned this

Only parameters that can't change between calculations can be re-purposed.

Pixel scaling over several steps is permitted, as long as the size of the scaled objects usually stays constant

Things like object or location and object size/mass/whatnot calced in 1 scene can be used for a calculation of a different feat as long as there isn't a reason for the object to change. For example the size of Konoha is calculated in 1 scene and then used to measure another feat much later on.

Mori here uses Uriels interaction with Yeoui as a point of comparison with Ardun, stating she's likely weaker than him. So Yeouis mass here should absolutely be constant between part 3 and part 5.

So like M2 said, it's not actually calc stacking because we're not using a calc for Uriels LS (as that feat breaks KE rules and is therefore unquantifiable, leaving us with raw mass of the planet) but even if we were it wouldn't actually be against calc stacking rules.

 

[IDK3465]

1. It happened during the same event, Uriel was fighting Daewi. After that, Mori escaped from the Heavenly Realm, and then he fought Uriel.

2. There is no calc stacking here, since we are not "using results from one calculation in order to calculate other feats."

What M2u12 said is true but to add, calc stacking page also mentioned this


Things like object or location and object size/mass/whatnot calced in 1 scene can be used for a calculation of a different feat as long as there isn't a reason for the object to change. For example the size of Konoha is calculated in 1 scene and then used to measure another feat much later on.

Mori here uses Uriels interaction with Yeoui as a point of comparison with Ardun, stating she's likely weaker than him. So Yeouis mass here should absolutely be constant between part 3 and part 5.

So like M2 said, it's not actually calc stacking because we're not using a calc for Uriels LS (as that feat breaks KE rules and is therefore unquantifiable, leaving us with raw mass of the planet) but even if we were it wouldn't actually be against calc stacking rules.

Ok, I stand corrected.
So long as the two things happened at around the same time, or is simply consistent enough, I’m fine with it

 

[DavidTPPM]

Okay I think I applied all the changes to the profiles so this thread can be closed