Saitama vs Dān Héng [7-0-0] GRACE

[Apotheosis69]

RULES​

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• Parallel Timeline Saitama and Early Amphoreus Arc Dān Héngare used.
  • Saitama starts as serious as possible. But not Bloodlusted (Time Travel) is restricted.
• Speed is equalized.
• Wincon is Death. No BFR
• Battle takes place anywhere on Earth (Earth is absolutely indestructible). Just so they can destroy everythin else, like the night sky and stars how Garou and Saitama did.

Statistics Values
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Stats​	Saitama​	Dān Héng​
Attack Potency & Durability​	4.32431 YottaFoe, can constantly and infinitely grow​	5.9 YottaFoe, up to 50.9 YottaFoe with Vidyādhara, all higher with percentage damage​
Lifting Strength​	154.63352 sextillion Metric Tons​	51.868018 million Metric Tons

MUSIC​

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Its too badass and adrenaline-inducing to not have

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Inconclusive:

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[JustANormalPerson01]

Both are super serious, yes even Saitama. But not Bloodlusted (Saitama Time Travel) is restricted

If you want this to be added to the profiles, pretty sure that abilities that aren't rated as likely or possibly ones cannot be restricted

 

[Apotheosis69]

If you want this to be added to the profiles, pretty sure that abilities that aren't rated as likely or possibly ones cannot be restricted

• It is unlikely for Saitama to use Time Travel unless he is bloodlusted.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Unlikely to be used ≠ Can't be used

Anyway, just wanted to comment that

 

[MrTayman616]

Seems like Saitama's wincon is his AD, his LS and skill here. Saitama has all of Garou's martial arts which has durability negation that can kill someone on a similar level.

What are The Trailblazer's wincons?

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Seems like Saitama's wincon is his AD, his LS and skill here. Saitama has all of Garou's martial arts which has durability negation that can kill someone on a similar level.

What are The Trailblazer's wincons?

Damage reduction is greatest weapon as it can constantly reduce his AP by 70%, then theres also healing from destruction path and additional defense amp and forcefield from preservation path

 

[Apotheosis69]

Saitama's biggest wincon(s) seems to be his constant rising of AP and Durability

 

[MrTayman616]

Damage reduction is greatest weapon as it can constantly reduce his AP by 70%, then theres also healing from destruction path and additional defense amp and forcefield from preservation path

Would it work the same for a shockwave based durability negation attack though? It doesn't rely on AP or Attack Power.

 

[Epiccheev]

By constantly reduce you mean like it caps at 70% but can be spammed or he can keep stacking 70% debuffs over and over

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Would it work the same for a shockwave based durability negation attack though? It doesn't rely on AP or Attack Power.

i think dura neg can work

 

[PedjaTarzan]

By constantly reduce you mean like it caps at 70% but can be spammed or he can keep stacking 70% debuffs over and over

dmg trailblazer takes will be reduced by 70% so he will take 30% of saitamas ap (i mixed stat reduction and dmg reduction im sorry)

 

[PedjaTarzan]

I dont see much wincons from traiblazer since saitamas AD can overcome constant damage reduction, tho im not sure if saitama can heal so he will struggle against danmaku while dealing very little damage to traiblazer
But iirc he has bfr where he can send opponents into space and since he has extreme big LS gap he can definetly do that

 

[helello100]

I dont see much wincons from traiblazer since saitamas AD can overcome constant damage reduction, tho im not sure if saitama can heal so he will struggle against danmaku while dealing very little damage to traiblazer
But iirc he has bfr where he can send opponents into space and since he has extreme big LS gap he can definetly do that

How is he gonna AD his way out unless Trailblazer constantly pushes him though?Which he really cant Unlike Garou which copied copied and matched his power to push him higher, they are pretty much close here.
Saitama BFRs i guess TB lacks on the hax for a Honkai character too.

 

[MrTayman616]

How is he gonna AD his way out unless Trailblazer constantly pushes him though?Which he really cant Unlike Garou which copied copied and matched his power to push him higher, they are pretty much close here.
Saitama BFRs i guess TB isnt haxed for a Honkai character too.

Saitama is always growing. Nor just against people with equal strength or so. Garou's copy only caused Garou to last longer.

 

[Apotheosis69]

How is he gonna AD his way out unless Trailblazer constantly pushes him though?Which he really cant Unlike Garou which copied copied and matched his power to push him higher, they are pretty much close here.
Saitama BFRs i guess TB lacks on the hax for a Honkai character too.

Wincon is Death

 

[helello100]

Saitama is always growing. Nor just against people with equal strength or so. Garou's copy only caused Garou to last longer.

Bruh? Show me the Scan or cap.

 

[helello100]

Saitama is always growing. Nor just against people with equal strength or so. Garou's copy only caused Garou to last longer.

I mean i looked at the profile and even it says it grows due to emotion from Genos's "death"

 

[MrTayman616]

Bruh? Show me the Scan or cap.

Literally the first page when they show his growth. "Saitama was always growing" "it went unnoticed because of the difference in strength"

 

[helello100]

Literally the first page when they show his growth. "Saitama was always growing" "it went unnoticed because of the difference in strength"

Yeah which literally says it become faster because Garou was copying his powers to keep up with him so yes you were correct. But unless the character pushes him it still aint gonna cause an instant ap stomp unless he gets angry like after Genos's death.

 

[helello100]

Bad matchu-up honestly. TB has crazy resistances but no good offensive hax at all. Which is the fate of any Honkai match. Either a haxless one gets ap stomped or Hax gg
Saitama yeets my boi to jupiter like a discus

 

[MrTayman616]

Yeah which literally says it become faster because Garou was copying his powers to keep up with him so yes you were correct. But unless the character pushes him it still aint gonna cause an instant ap stomp unless he gets angry like after Genos's death.

It becomes faster because of emotions. Not because Garou is pushing him.

 

[TegamiBachi25]

yeah, this feels like a stomp. Unlike Kafka vs Saitama, trailblazer doesn't have any good win cons

 

[Epiccheev]

At best he can stall for a decent amount of time. Stalling not being the best strategy against Saitama.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

i like how BFR is restricted by op but powerscaling brainrot has taken the reading abilities from all of us
(i was first to mention bfr too lool)

 

[Apotheosis69]

The plot thickens…

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

The plot thickens…

Would it be better to use Remembrance Trailblazer? (I completely forgot Trailblazer was multi galaxy there nvm)

 

[Apotheosis69]

Might have to think about changing Trailblazer to someone else. If Saitama does Truly stomp Trailblazer.

 

[Catbowtie]

I mean,

I would much rather you use Garou than Saitama because Saitama’s *** is a really, REALLY skilled punch kick merchant and he just doesn’t have a lot of things going for him that Garou does. Other than punching his way to victory, Garou can BFR, has portals, radiation, and the infamous adapt + copy = ggs. Not to take anything from Saitama, but Garou is just the more solid fighter. There’s a reason why Saitama lost to the same person Garou won against.

 

[Apotheosis69]

?…. that does not sound any better…

Honestly Garou stomps even harder than Saitama against Trailblazer. Cus of his much higher experience, and Gravity Knuckle, etc.

And Garou having a loot more hax, so he can win a looot more battles.

 

[Catbowtie]

I meant changing Trailbrazer along with Saitama but if you want a Saitama deathmatch PLEASE no one with Low Godly Regen or above and blood lust him since Saitama doesn’t mostly kill in character.

 

[Apotheosis69]

He usually does kill in character, Even when they're not like World-ending…. Mosquito Girl…

He ONLY didn't kill Garou because Tareo requested him not to.

 

[TegamiBachi25]

?…. that does not sound any better…

Honestly Garou stomps even harder than Saitama against Trailblazer. Cus of his much higher experience, and Gravity Knuckle, etc.

And Garou having a loot more hax, so he can win a looot more battles.

indeed. The only way you can win against garou is if you're even more haxed than he is and can resist all his hax and somehow can circumvent his copy+adapt

Or just incon him with a hax he doesn't resist but you also die in the process.

 

[Apotheosis69]

I am thinking of switching Trailblazer with Late Penacony Arc to Early Amphoreus Arc Dan Heng.

Would that be more fair... or at least not a Stomp

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I haven't finished the story yet but this information might be relevant for this matchup since it applies to Late Penacony Arc to Early Amphoreus Arc

Spoiler: HSR 3.2

Apparently the trailblazer is already dead since the very start of amphoreus and is just a collection of walking memories. Their soul is wandering some place else and is the explanation for why the trailblazer is immune to Castorice's death hax and can't be killed by it.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

wrong thread

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

wrong thread

Wouldn't it be relevant for this thread since this is a matchup about the trailblazer in this specific key.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Wouldn't it be relevant for this thread since this is a matchup about the trailblazer in this specific key.

No, plus i dont see saitama having death hax at all tho i didnt see bfr restriction first time so i might have missed saitama having death hax too

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

No, plus i dont see saitama having death hax at all tho i didnt see bfr restriction first time so i might have missed saitama having death hax too

Spoiler

If this is correct, It's not a resistance to death hax, the TB wasn't affected because they're already dead in the first place. This would be some type of immortality.

Anyways I just want to mention it here since this new information possibly fully cooked this matchup since it involves this key of the trailblazer to fight saitama.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Me thinks this is a mismatch.

 

[TegamiBachi25]

Me thinks this is a mismatch.

it is a mismatch. Trailblazer doesn't have any hax or a way to put Saitama down before Saitama AD kicks in