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Kimiko (The Boys) Vs Shadow MiO (Summer Time Rendering) Redo

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Kimiko Vs Shadow Mio




Location: Tek Cave

Rules;

  • Speed is equalised
  • Mio is 9-A and Kimiko is 8-C
  • Mio has a knife
  • Win by incacipation or death of the opponent
  • Kimiko knows of Mio's weakness; Her shadow is her weak point.



Let the baddies rumble!!!
 
I'm always confused by these matches. Are the shadows not involved? One look at the shadow abilities and it's pretty clear how unfair this is, so what am I missing that makes this fair?
 
Are the shadows not involved?
Shadows? Mio is the only the only shadow in this mix.

so what am I missing that makes this fair?
Kimiko has prior knowledge of Mio's weakness which is the shadow beneath her feet. If hit, Kimiko would be able to oneshot Mio, killing her instantly. Reason being;
At least Street level for Main Body (To kill a shadow, one must produce enough force that would be lethal to a normal human.[29] Momentarily survived repeated stabs from Shinpei[30][31][Statistics Values 3])
Kimiko is able to oneshot Mio with a single graze of her body against her main body (her shadow). 8-C AP against 9-C durability for that. That makes this fair especially with prior knowledge of how. I believe it's fair in that sense. It was also within the rules prior.
 
Shadow Mio now's top priority to to defend against Kimiko while shielding her main body as she'd figure out kimiko knows her weakness.
 
Shadows? Mio is the only the only shadow in this mix.
Yeah shadows as in previous matches.

Kimiko has prior knowledge of Mio's weakness which is the shadow beneath her feet. If hit, Kimiko would be able to oneshot Mio, killing her instantly. Reason being;
So then Mio and her shadow are part of this not just the shadow.

Kimiko is able to oneshot Mio. That makes this fear especially with prior knowledge of how. I believe it's fair in that sense.
Doesn't really matter when her immense pain tol and willpower let her live through that.

Shadow Mio now's top priority to to defend against Kimiko while shielding her main body as she'd figure out kimiko knows her weakness.
And Kimiko can't kill the shadow at all. How is this fair?

You're essentially matching Kimiko against a stand user and the stand's the main one fighting and can't be killed but Kimiko has to get passed it and kill Mio but can't due to immense pain and willpower.
 
Yeah shadows as in previous matches
Like I said. Mio is the shadow fighting Kimiko in this matchup, no one else. I don't understand why this is being brought up.


So then Mio and her shadow are part of this not just the shadow.
What? I don't understand what you're saying rn


Doesn't really matter when her immense pain tol and willpower let her live through that.
Immense pain and willpower tolerance doesn't save her from getting one shotted and killed by 8-C AP to her 9-C durability for her main body. So this point is invalid. Besides, if you read the justification for these capabilities, she only momentarily survived a simple knife attack from Shinpei (who is 10-B) and survived a bolt sniper bullet shot to her main body. Both of which damage output results to only 9-C. Kimiko's slightest touch in this case would casually one shot her, being a speeding truck to human child given her AP is literally 8-C.

And Kimiko can't kill the shadow at all. How is this fair?
Yes she can. Similarly to how ordinary humans within Summer Time Rendering kills shadows. She can too and much greater. Simply stabbing the shadow beneath their feet where there shadows are.. similarly to how us humans have shadows. Would kill her. It's not rocket science, I don't understand how Kimiko CAN'T kill Mio when she's over 500x stronger than her main body's durability which would WITHOUT NO DOUBT kill her. Her regeneration only operates for her projected human body. Not the main one.

You're essentially matching Kimiko against a stand user and the stand's the main one fighting and can't be killed but Kimiko has to get passed it and kill Mio but can't due to immense pain and willpower.
Addressed this earlier. Immense Willpower and Pain Tolerance, especially on a lower level it was demonstrated on with drastically weaker characters than Kimiko doesn't exempt Kimiko from harming or killing Mio. I rest my case on this.
 
What makes these justifications worse.... is that Kimiko HAS prior knowledge of this fragile weakness of Mio. While Mio has 9-A durability for her projected body, Her actual body is still 9-C. And where is this body located? Below her feet. All Kimiko has to do is STRIKE below Mio's feet to win. Now the argument begins here, how will she do that with Mio's numerous ways to defend herself as Shadow's in general are able to navigate this weakness.
 
Like I said. Mio is the shadow fighting Kimiko in this matchup, no one else. I don't understand why this is being brought up.
What? I don't understand what you're saying rn
I'm confused with how the page is set up and how you're talking about Mio in the match. The page says shadow mio but you bring up Mio as though she's involved in the match. You clarified already that Mio is involved so there's no issue now.

Immense pain and willpower tolerance doesn't save her from getting one shotted and killed by 8-C AP to her 9-C durability for her main body. So this point is invalid. Besides, if you read the justification for these capabilities, she only momentarily survived a simple knife attack from Shinpei (who is 10-B) and survived a bolt sniper bullet shot to her main body. Both of which damage output results to only 9-C. Kimiko's slightest touch in this case would casually one shot her, being a speeding truck to human child given her AP is literally 8-C.
Momentarily surviving is my point, she won't die immediately from Kimiko's attack.

Yes she can. Similarly to how ordinary humans within Summer Time Rendering kills shadows. She can too and much greater. Simply stabbing the shadow beneath their feet where there shadows are.. similarly to how us humans have shadows. Would kill her. It's not rocket science, I don't understand how Kimiko CAN'T kill Mio when she's over 500x stronger than her main body's durability which would WITHOUT NO DOUBT kill her. Her regeneration only operates for her projected human body. Not the main one.
If the shadow protects her and Mio is moving around then its gonna be harder to stab the shadow.

Mio's numerous ways to defend herself as Shadow's in general are able to navigate this weakness.
Yeah this is why I don't see this as fair.

Also Kimiko's 8-C is a possibly, why are you acting as though its outright? She's realistically weaker than Shadow Mio here by almost 7x. Shadow Mido's also got the greater LS so she can just snap Kimiko's neck and break her limbs.
 
I'm confused with how the page is set up and how you're talking about Mio in the match. The page says shadow mio but you bring up Mio as though she's involved in the match. You clarified already that Mio is involved so there's no issue now.
Ahhh I see your confusion now. She is called "Shadow Mio" within the verse which is why her page is named that. I call her Mio for short within this match which the reason is self explanatory within itself. And yes I know Shadow Mio and Mio are two different people. Infact, Mio is the human version while Shadow Mio is her copy. Although I shall make it clear and assure you, the human Mio isn't involved in this match. Only her copy, "Shadow Mio" created by Haine is fighting Kimiko here.

Momentarily surviving is my point, she won't die immediately from Kimiko's attack.
???... I've made it clear and stressed it enough the sheer difference between Mio's willpower feats and what she's facing here but I shall put it this way. If a 10-B guy with a knife could put Mio in a critical state, albeit not dying immediately... What do you think Kimiko would do with a single graze of her claws? 300 Joules was enough to fatally injure Mio while Kimiko's AP is in the billions of joules... They're literally NOT comparable or compatible in anyway possible... Kimiko WILL kill Mio if she so even grazes her main body once.... I can't stress this enough... Humans within Summer Time Rendering have numerous cases of killing shadows in cold blood with mere weaponry... It's almost like you're downplaying Kimiko immensely here... 🗿
And with what I've said.. with this you basically agree that Kimiko is able to harm her... Which would make your opinion of this match being a stomp even more invalid.

If the shadow protects her and Mio is moving around then its gonna be harder to stab the shadow.
1. What are you talking about? Shadow Mio manipulates her own shadow beneath her feet.. they aren't two different entities... I think you had a very vague understanding of how Shadow's work here as you seem to think their main bodies and projected bodies are two different entities. Which. They're not 🗿.

2. And yes. It would be harder for Kimiko to stab Mio's shadow if she can protect it... But that's the point. It should be challenging for an interesting matchup. Just as most matchups on here are for two characters to bypass weaknesses. And either way, Kimiko already had an amazing advantage as I literally gave her prior knowledge in the rules -.-

4. Kimiko knows of Mio's weakness; Her shadow is her weak point.
Like I do not understand the fuss at all.

Also Kimiko's 8-C is a possibly, why are you acting as though its outright? She's realistically weaker than Shadow Mio here by almost 7x
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2. Mio is 9-A and Kimiko is 8-C
Read the rules... I've already made it clear that Kimiko is using her 8-C tier for this matchup. It's no longer a possibility in that case FOR THIS MATCHUP 🗿...


Shadow Mido's also got the greater LS so she can just snap Kimiko's neck and break her limbs.
1. And Kimiko has greater AP and durability... It's 8-C vs 9-A. Both have advantages on their sides which supports my point of there being fairness.
2. Well.. Regeneration;
  • Regeneration and Immortality (Type 3 - Low-Mid. Healed massive gashes inflicted by Black Noir[2]. Regenerated a snapped neck[3], twice [4]. Healed from a headshot[5] on two different occasions[6]. Regrew her missing arm[7] and chopped off leg[8]. Reattached her face and healed other injuries after falling off from great heights[7]. Regenerated from being almost completely bisected and eviscerated[9]. Ashley stated that all supes heal faster than humans[10][11])
To top things off she even has a feat regarding what you're stating rn.
 
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We should be focusing and discussing on how Kimiko would be able to close the distance and graze below Shadow Mio's feet to kill her before Mio's defeats Kimiko first -.-
 
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