Ben 10 vs Tomura Shigaraki | An Army Of His Own

[GeneralSol16]

After hearing in the news that Japan is being attacked by a weirdo with decaying superpowers, Ben heads towards there to help, since "A bunch of newbies may need the help of a real superhero."

- Post Surgery Completed Shigaraki and Omniverse Flashbacks Ben 10 are being used.

• Ben has Master control and access to all his classic aliens, except Way Big and Ghostfreak.
• Battle takes place in Musutafu, Japan.
• Equalized speed, start 15m from each other, both as High 6-A.

Hero:
Villain:
Incon:

 

[TheRustyOne]

Ben stomps hard here. His High 6-A rating scales to 5.71 Exatons or 5719.4 Petatons vs All For One's 42.37 and 63.55 Petatons.

Ben is almost 90x stronger than AFO. He can tank and one shot AFO with any of his High 6-A aliens.

 

[GeneralSol16]

Ben stomps hard here. His High 6-A rating scales to 5.71 Exatons or 5719.4 Petatons vs All For One's 42.37 and 63.55 Petatons.

Ben is almost 90x stronger than AFO. He can tank and one shot AFO with any of his High 6-A aliens.

But can't AFO counter the AP difference with his regeneration? And overcome Ben's superiority via his Hax?

 

[TheRustyOne]

But can't AFO counter the AP difference with his regeneration? And overcome Ben's superiority via his Hax?

AFO can only regenerate when he injects himself with the Rewind Drug. A single hit from Ben will instantly kill him. Even if you start AFO with Rewind, a single hit from Ben would massively decrease his age. He might instantly turn into a toddler from one attack, assuming the damage isn't so great that he'll just Rewind to non-existence.

Taking damage makes AFO Rewind faster after all. AFO has one hax that can damage Ben, Spatial Manipulation, that has extremely limited range and can be survived by some of his aliens. The Omnitrix will prevent Ben from dying with any number of abilities. Low-Godly Regeneration or turning him into an alien that can survive that injury.

You can see he has Type 3 and Type 8 Immortality as well.

Ben also can resist possession as well. AFO has literally no way of winning here.

 

[GeneralSol16]

AFO can only regenerate when he injects himself with the Rewind Drug. A single hit from Ben will instantly kill him. Even if you start AFO with Rewind, a single hit from Ben would massively decrease his age. He might instantly turn into a toddler from one attack, assuming the damage isn't so great that he'll just Rewind to non-existence.

Taking damage makes AFO Rewind faster after all. AFO has one hax that can damage Ben, Spatial Manipulation, that has extremely limited range and can be survived by some of his aliens. The Omnitrix will prevent Ben from dying with any number of abilities. Low-Godly Regeneration or turning him into an alien that can survive that injury.

You can see he has Type 3 and Type 8 Immortality as well.

Ben also can resist possession as well. AFO has literally no way of winning here.

The Prototype Omnitrix doesn't have Low Godly Regen, only Ultimatrix and Official Omnitrix.
Half of his abilities come from version way above this Omnitrix, so don't think that's a decisive at all.

But yeah, I assume even when Ben could hold back against AFO since even as a kid he doesn't kill his enemies until there's no other choice or considered it non sapient, he would still punch him hard enough to knock him out.

 

[TheRustyOne]

The Prototype Omnitrix doesn't have Low Godly Regen, only Ultimatrix and Official Omnitrix.
Half of his abilities come from version way above this Omnitrix, so don't think that's a decisive at all.

Make a CRT, the profile currently makes no distinction between them and just says base.

Ben has no idea how strong AFO is, to my knowledge he cannot sense that. Also, knocking him out in one hit is still a stomp.

I find it hilarious you're acting like this isn't a mega stomp. Ben's almost 90x stronger than AFO, what the hell are you expecting here?

He has one small attack that's not even fatal. Since Ben has master control, he can easily transform into an alien that can survive a hole through its torso.

 

[GeneralSol16]

All right then, I assume this can be closed.

 

[GeneralSol16]

I'd change it to Shigaeaki to see if now there's a battle

 

[SuperStar]

I'd change it to Shigaeaki to see if now there's a battle

Oh god

 

[Lort15]

Oh god

blud will get stomped from 90X ap gap again

 

[TheRustyOne]

blud will get stomped from 90X ap gap again

Complete Tomura is 2.54 Exatons, while Ben is 5.71 Exatons.

IDK how much Ben upscales, if he does at all, but it wouldn't be an almost 90x gap like this is.

Not saying the match is fair, just clearing this up.

 

[Lort15]

Complete Tomura is 2.54 Exatons, while Ben is 5.71 Exatons.

IDK how much Ben upscales, if he does at all, but it wouldn't be an almost 90x gap like this is.

Not saying the match is fair, just clearing this up.

oh really? i thought all the high 6-A's caps at all for one's

 

[GeneralSol16]

Complete Tomura is 2.54 Exatons, while Ben is 5.71 Exatons.

IDK how much Ben upscales, if he does at all, but it wouldn't be an almost 90x gap like this is.

Not saying the match is fair, just clearing this up.

oh really? i thought all the high 6-A's caps at all for one's

It has been changed now.

 

[Lort15]

Analytical prediction and Deconstruction seems good wincons for shigaraki what is Ben's respond against these?

It has been changed now.

 

[Arkansalter2]

respond against these?

Clockwork.

 

[GeneralSol16]

Clockwork.

Dude, it's 10 years old Ben, he doesn't have Clockwork.

 

[GeneralSol16]

Analytical prediction and Deconstruction seems good wincons for shigaraki what is Ben's respond against these?

Afaik, Shigaraki's Decay doesn't work on liquids, so Uograde should be a good counter if Ben figuress it out fast enough.

 

[Lort15]

Clockwork.

wait you might be on to something, is clockwork locked after that time event in "Ben again" episode??

 

[GeneralSol16]

wait you might be on to something, is clockwork locked after that time event in "Ben again" episode??

Clockwork being uvclocked to Kid Ben never happened at all lol.

At the end of the episode, Paradox said that all of this Adventure would never happen since Eon was anchered to the Timeline, so Teen and Kids Ben never worked together, which means he never unlocked Clockwork at all.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

The first prime all might level character being used after the buff for once cool. Following

 

[Lort15]

Clockwork being uvclocked to Kid Ben never happened at all lol.

At the end of the episode, Paradox said that all of this Adventure would never happen since Eon was anchered to the Timeline, so Teen and Kids Ben never worked together, which means he never unlocked Clockwork at all.

I need to check ep if paradox said that they would forgot or it is really erased i will reply when i check that

 

[Muteki616]

those stat gaps are insane
i never expected even kid ben to be this strong.

following.

 

[Chronicplane]

This has me interested I'll keep an eye on-

Following.

 

[Quang230]

So what if Ben used Diamondhead since last time i remember diamond don't age or decay. Also have Ghostfreak intangibility

 

[TheRustyOne]

Not super familiar with Ben enough to give an opinion, I'll wait for people more knowledgeable. I was just clearing up a misunderstanding.

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Tomura's Decay doesn't actually decay, it's just the name of his Quirk. Just like how Endeavor's Quirk isn't actually fire from hell.

Tomura Quirk lets him deconstruct anything he can touch with at least 2 fingers, regardless of its durability or what its made of.

Once again, I'm not arguing anything, I'm just clearing up another misunderstanding.

 

[09Kayson09]

Ben stomps hard asf

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Am I blind. Where's Ben's High 6-A key on his profile.

 

[Lort15]

Am I blind. Where's Ben's High 6-A key on his profile.

kid ben is suppost to be high 6-A but that key is kinda outdated nobody made an update about it except the omnitrix part so he is 10-B rn

 

[Lort15]

Not super familiar with Ben enough to give an opinion, I'll wait for people more knowledgeable. I was just clearing up a misunderstanding.


Tomura's Decay doesn't actually decay, it's just the name of his Quirk. Just like how Endeavor's Quirk isn't actually fire from hell.

Tomura Quirk lets him deconstruct anything he can touch with at least 2 fingers, regardless of its durability or what its made of.

Once again, I'm not arguing anything, I'm just clearing up another misunderstanding.

would mid-high regen save Ben from being deconstructed? (omnitrix have resistance to 5-6D deconstruction but i'm not sure if this applys for prototype)

 

[TheRustyOne]

would mid-high regen save Ben from being deconstructed?

Yes, it would.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

What is Shigaraki's win con supposed to be.

 

[Lort15]

Yes, it would.

Alright so, we know that Prototype omnitrix have failsafe that turns Ben into aliens before ben dies/heavily get damages so if i'm not wrong Shigaraki's first move would be long ranged deconstruction so that would trigger failsafe, failsafe turns Ben into Upgrade so he survives from the attack via regen

 

[Lort15]

What is Shigaraki's win con supposed to be.

i feel like analytical prediction would help him to dodge Ben's attacks but it isn't that a good wincon i guess idk

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

i feel like analytical prediction would help him to dodge Ben's attacks but it isn't that a good wincon i guess idk

What's supposed to put down Ben permanently.

 

[Lort15]

What's supposed to put down Ben permanently.

Well i would say knocking him out but Shigaraki is a type of person who would kill his opponents (also the ap gap is clear ben has higher ap) so that would really trigger failsafe if Shigaraki has something to bypass failsafe somehow it could work

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Well i would say knocking him out but Shigaraki is a type of person who would kill his opponents (also the ap gap is clear ben has higher ap) so that would really trigger failsafe if Shigaraki has something to bypass failsafe somehow it could work

At this point this looks like the biggest mismatch to the point I'm just gonna say Shigaraki uses the search quirk to identify Ben's weaknesses and then flys to a store to buy a bag of peanuts, a pet peacock, and a killer clown costume to fight him.

 

[Lort15]

At this point this looks like the biggest mismatch to the point I'm just gonna say Shigaraki uses the search quirk to identify Ben's weaknesses and then flys to a store to buy a bag of peanuts, a pet peacock, and a killer clown costume to fight him.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

 

[Chronicplane]

Could Shigaraki decay the omnitrix itself?

 

[TheRustyOne]

Could Shigaraki decay the omnitrix itself?

Nope, it's resistant to...

Existence Erasure, Deconstruction, Soul Destruction, Information Manipulation (Type 2), Time Manipulation & Spatial Manipulation (History [5-D] - Unaffected by Chronosapien Time Bomb's explosion, which can ripple timestream that can destroy infinitely branching space-time continuums along with their individual history, including Anodite)

Once again, the profile just labels this under the base Omnitrix. IDK enough about Ben to say if that is accurate or not, but for this match up, all of the abilities are true.

 

[Lort15]

Nope, it's resistant to...

Existence Erasure, Deconstruction, Soul Destruction, Information Manipulation (Type 2), Time Manipulation & Spatial Manipulation (History [5-D] - Unaffected by Chronosapien Time Bomb's explosion, which can ripple timestream that can destroy infinitely branching space-time continuums along with their individual history, including Anodite)

Once again, the profile just labels this under the base Omnitrix. IDK enough about Ben to say if that is accurate or not, but for this match up, all of the abilities are true.

yeah if we are going with current profiles we have, all omnitrixes have low godly regen and resistance to these abilities according to profiles