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Lately i was thinking abt, do smt have plurality?, so i do Some scaling abt it and Lets see If it legit or not.
—Duality
Dual concept system aka dualism in MegaTen franchise. MegaTen is famous for its controversial fiction. This franchise consistently applies 3 schools of philosophy, namely; Taoism, Zoroastrianism & Buddhism. Taoism:
Taoism in MegaTen is represented in the form of Dragon Stream; a Path of Chi. In Taoism, every object is dualistic which is composed of positive and negative elements. Objects that do not have negative and positive elements are the same as empty.
Buddhism: Buddhism in MegaTen is represented in the form of Heaven & Earth, Life & Death, etc. This is explicitly explained when someone reaches Nirvana aka Atziluth, they will be free from the shackles of existence; becoming a blank canvas. In Buddhism, dualism is the perception that everything, including reality itself can be simplified into two basic categories and cannot be simplified.
Zoroastrianism: Zoroastrianism in MegaTen clearly states that Good and Evil are dual concepts (dualism). Zoroastrianism states that there are two opposing elements; Good and Evil. The Good element is represented as Ahura Mazda, while the Evil element is represented as Angra Mainyu – Ahriman.
—Dragon stream/dragon veins (Taoism)
Here it will emphasize more on the duality good and evil.of good and evil. Dragon stream is a dragon stream where this stream is in the state of both good and evil, good as (yin) and evil as (yang), and this is fundamental and universal because the stream is a dragon vein stream and there is a concept of Tao and Feng shuiTao and Feng shui in the dragon stream, which says that all things in this world depend on and are opposites called dualism, this dragon stream is a balancer of good and evil, this stream is in the assiah world or the human world.
Additional proof of good and evil duality from QnA, that it is not symbolic. It is a universal duality that is applied in Shin Megami Tensei, applied in Dragon Veins and some Zoroatrian gods such as Ahriman that represent the evil aspect. Not only that but there is also dark-law as (evil) and light-law as (good), good and evil are basically human psychological traits as well.
Conclusion:
The Dragon Stream is a stream present as Taoism that combines yin and yang. " Echoing the idea that this energy flow is similar to the Earth's blood flow, it is important to note that the name "Dragon Stream" is a product of the game's localization, and the more literal translation is "Dragon Vein" (,龍幕), which, as mentioned in the scan above, is a concept borrowed from Taoism and the practice of Feng Shui, which is defined as the manifestation of the concept that, because the Tao, the underlying unity of all things, is embedded in every object in creation, all things are in harmony with each other, and reflect themselves and each other in a vast interconnected network. "Taoism exists as universal and fundamental because every creation has its duality, the nadi naga exists as a counterbalance to yin and yang, good and evil, law and chaos, and all the dualities that exist in the reality of the assiah or human world (malkuth).
—Nonduality
humans in Shin megami tensei are "both good and evil" completely and simultaneously, then it could be a form of paradoxical oneness, not because it transcends duality, but because it embodies contradiction as one identity.
Tl:
Humans are contradictory beings with good and evil inside them... He is trying to test the possibility of such a person being able to become a being without contradictions.
[1]https://gyaz.com/a413fb9d223eaeced130db87eebc01a4.
[2]https://gyazo.com/5d40849376964f8dc36b203bf84f981c
[3]https://gyazo.com/cf4178a5bed2bf880b3f063962287179
[4]https://gyazo.com/f6e18ee5b8b6f6cd54cf8c5e7ef94dcc
[5]https://gyazo.com/c067ef701548bacb435ea160bc0d942d
The benefit is that humans get the potential power to become devils (evil) thanks to the dragon stream because humans are in the state of both good and evil. For example, Miyako hotsuin can change herself from human (good) to demon (evil). Not only Miyako but there are many char in megami tensei who have this potential as stated humans are both good and evil, as oneness logic and can manipulate this dualism as they please, because humans have 2 nature / self in one container.
[]
Conclusion: humans can control their own dragon flow called chi flow, this flow is a balancing flow between good and evil, and humans themselves in the state of both good and evil can become demons and Gods or hybrid.
In persona there is the same concept of shadow in unconscious as (evil) and ourselves persona in conscious as (good), humans have 2 natures in one container or both, both state
- Nonduality 1 for humans
There are multiple layers of reality. You can think of these layers as different realms or dimensions. For example, material reality or the human realm is just one layer of consciousness (malkuth). The astral realm (yetzirah) or soul realm is another layer of consciousness (briah). Then, the ultimate reality or the realm of God is another layer of consciousness (atziluth).
Let us imagine nature as levels. In this example, the ultimate reality is the highest level, and the source of all existence (atziluth). This is the ultimate truth where duality does not exist. There is only God as one collective entity of all consciousness without separation.
Tl: Originally, the Sephiroth can be seen as a schematic diagram that explains the state in which the "divinity" of the one and only God flows out into the world. It can also be seen as a kind of thought experiment that tries to understand the existence of God by treating God's various attributes as if they were independent entities. God's "divinity" does not necessarily include sublime things, but also human things, so to speak, and the higher it is in the structure of the Sephiroth, the more sublime it is, and the bottom corresponds to human things, so this is a diagram illustrating the arrangement of the attributes in preparation for making the Sephiroth structure three-dimensional.
[https://gyazo.com/116c2c1a4685f899653d81c63efec122]
In light of the above, I think it's pretty clear evidence that the Atziluth does indeed transcend the layers below it by more than one infinity. They have their own transcendence relationship between them, but Atziluth is something essentially separate from all of that. It is completely isolated, inaccessible, not really dwarfing them in the same way that they dwarf each other. You could say that the four worlds are realms that transcend each other.
Tl:Assiah
A word said by the evil god Lahmu after appearing in Zojoji Temple. It is thought to refer to our world, as opposed to the Demon World. In the foundations of mysticism, or what is also called "the occult," it is one of the names of the Four Worlds. In all, there are: Atziluth, the world of God who created the world, in the ten sefirot which comprise the Tree of Life; Briah, a world ruled by archangels who serve God, where individuals (ie. "others") are born; Yetzirah, a world of souls and phenomena ruled by angels; and Assiah, a world of flesh and emotion, man and Demon. These layers may seem to be connected, but there is an absolute separation [隔絶 lit. isolation; separation; remoteness; seclusion; reclusion; inaccessibility], between Atziluth and the ones below. This separation is called the Abyss, considered to be the hidden, invisible Sephirah, Da'at.
(The Tree of Life, the Sephiroth, and other motifs can be seen in the world of Shin Megami Tensei V. If you are interested, consider finding books on these topics to learn more.)
[https://gyazo.com/b259db4b3f0132f72acc7d70e460168f]
The 4 worlds are realms that transcend each other
1. The human world (assiah)
2. The world of yetzirah (heavenly realm)
3. The world of yetzirah 2 (astral realm)
4. The world of briah (higher astral realm)
5. The world of atziluth (divine realm) 5.
And atziluth is the pinnacle of Kabbalah representing the keether aspect of the definition of transcend qualitatively, this corresponds to the four worlds basically (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Worlds).
[https://gyazo.com/fd716b060c0b88832b1e856bdcf4c2e9]
The realm of atziluth is the realm of no duality Buddhism follows advaita vedanta "nondualism" because atziluth is the realm of ultimate reality where there is no duality whatsoever.
Tl:
It is like flowers, like birds, like butterflies, like fire, like water, like light, like thunder. Oh!
It feels like everything that exists in this world.
It was like a butterfly, and like fire, and like water, and like light, and like thunder. It burned, it flowed, it danced, it flew.
And then it wailed. The sound, which was not a sound, spread out as a kind of vibration of space and time.
Released from its cage, it was still dazed and confused by its new surroundings, writhing against something that felt like a thorn in its flesh. Dressed in something painful and intense, something new and completely unfamiliar, it floated back to the higher dimensional space where it originally resided.
The light of an enlightened person is very high and luminous, and his divine form is more precious than anything else.
Nothing can reach that light
The sun, the moon, the luminous jewel
Like blobs of ink, they disappear before him.
Welcome, Mithra ....
'... Mithra?'
Slowly, they awoke from their slumber. For the first time, they realized the tightness of their bodies, stretching and expanding their chests for a breath of fresh air, as if they were babies waking up from a comfortable sleep. Then they spread their arms and legs and swayed in place.
It was a place where there was no heavy weight.
[https://gyazo.com/2614b9d1451f99005af5430d54334977]
Conclusions: atzililuth is a realm that has lacked off and is qualitatively superior to its lower realms, in other words the realm of atziluth is the realm of Transcend reality and duality in the assiah world and lack off because there is no duality in the realm of god following advaita vedanta, and god basically cannot be described, defined, perfect, absolute being. In this way atzililuth is a realm that transcends all duality or transduality as well as the existence of nondualism.
- Transduality type 2 for atziluth
Logical states:
A. Good (yin)
B Evil (yang)
C. Human
D. Atziluth
E. Plurality for the realm/character above(Qualitative Superiority to) atziluth.
Sorry For bad Thread, i’m still learning about making Thread
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—Duality
Dual concept system aka dualism in MegaTen franchise. MegaTen is famous for its controversial fiction. This franchise consistently applies 3 schools of philosophy, namely; Taoism, Zoroastrianism & Buddhism. Taoism:
Taoism in MegaTen is represented in the form of Dragon Stream; a Path of Chi. In Taoism, every object is dualistic which is composed of positive and negative elements. Objects that do not have negative and positive elements are the same as empty.
Buddhism: Buddhism in MegaTen is represented in the form of Heaven & Earth, Life & Death, etc. This is explicitly explained when someone reaches Nirvana aka Atziluth, they will be free from the shackles of existence; becoming a blank canvas. In Buddhism, dualism is the perception that everything, including reality itself can be simplified into two basic categories and cannot be simplified.
Zoroastrianism: Zoroastrianism in MegaTen clearly states that Good and Evil are dual concepts (dualism). Zoroastrianism states that there are two opposing elements; Good and Evil. The Good element is represented as Ahura Mazda, while the Evil element is represented as Angra Mainyu – Ahriman.
—Dragon stream/dragon veins (Taoism)
Here it will emphasize more on the duality good and evil.of good and evil. Dragon stream is a dragon stream where this stream is in the state of both good and evil, good as (yin) and evil as (yang), and this is fundamental and universal because the stream is a dragon vein stream and there is a concept of Tao and Feng shuiTao and Feng shui in the dragon stream, which says that all things in this world depend on and are opposites called dualism, this dragon stream is a balancer of good and evil, this stream is in the assiah world or the human world.
Additional proof of good and evil duality from QnA, that it is not symbolic. It is a universal duality that is applied in Shin Megami Tensei, applied in Dragon Veins and some Zoroatrian gods such as Ahriman that represent the evil aspect. Not only that but there is also dark-law as (evil) and light-law as (good), good and evil are basically human psychological traits as well.
Conclusion:
The Dragon Stream is a stream present as Taoism that combines yin and yang. " Echoing the idea that this energy flow is similar to the Earth's blood flow, it is important to note that the name "Dragon Stream" is a product of the game's localization, and the more literal translation is "Dragon Vein" (,龍幕), which, as mentioned in the scan above, is a concept borrowed from Taoism and the practice of Feng Shui, which is defined as the manifestation of the concept that, because the Tao, the underlying unity of all things, is embedded in every object in creation, all things are in harmony with each other, and reflect themselves and each other in a vast interconnected network. "Taoism exists as universal and fundamental because every creation has its duality, the nadi naga exists as a counterbalance to yin and yang, good and evil, law and chaos, and all the dualities that exist in the reality of the assiah or human world (malkuth).
—Nonduality
humans in Shin megami tensei are "both good and evil" completely and simultaneously, then it could be a form of paradoxical oneness, not because it transcends duality, but because it embodies contradiction as one identity.
Tl:
Humans are contradictory beings with good and evil inside them... He is trying to test the possibility of such a person being able to become a being without contradictions.
[1]https://gyaz.com/a413fb9d223eaeced130db87eebc01a4.
[2]https://gyazo.com/5d40849376964f8dc36b203bf84f981c
[3]https://gyazo.com/cf4178a5bed2bf880b3f063962287179
[4]https://gyazo.com/f6e18ee5b8b6f6cd54cf8c5e7ef94dcc
[5]https://gyazo.com/c067ef701548bacb435ea160bc0d942d
The benefit is that humans get the potential power to become devils (evil) thanks to the dragon stream because humans are in the state of both good and evil. For example, Miyako hotsuin can change herself from human (good) to demon (evil). Not only Miyako but there are many char in megami tensei who have this potential as stated humans are both good and evil, as oneness logic and can manipulate this dualism as they please, because humans have 2 nature / self in one container.
[]
Conclusion: humans can control their own dragon flow called chi flow, this flow is a balancing flow between good and evil, and humans themselves in the state of both good and evil can become demons and Gods or hybrid.
In persona there is the same concept of shadow in unconscious as (evil) and ourselves persona in conscious as (good), humans have 2 natures in one container or both, both state
- Nonduality 1 for humans
There are multiple layers of reality. You can think of these layers as different realms or dimensions. For example, material reality or the human realm is just one layer of consciousness (malkuth). The astral realm (yetzirah) or soul realm is another layer of consciousness (briah). Then, the ultimate reality or the realm of God is another layer of consciousness (atziluth).
Let us imagine nature as levels. In this example, the ultimate reality is the highest level, and the source of all existence (atziluth). This is the ultimate truth where duality does not exist. There is only God as one collective entity of all consciousness without separation.
Tl: Originally, the Sephiroth can be seen as a schematic diagram that explains the state in which the "divinity" of the one and only God flows out into the world. It can also be seen as a kind of thought experiment that tries to understand the existence of God by treating God's various attributes as if they were independent entities. God's "divinity" does not necessarily include sublime things, but also human things, so to speak, and the higher it is in the structure of the Sephiroth, the more sublime it is, and the bottom corresponds to human things, so this is a diagram illustrating the arrangement of the attributes in preparation for making the Sephiroth structure three-dimensional.
[https://gyazo.com/116c2c1a4685f899653d81c63efec122]
In light of the above, I think it's pretty clear evidence that the Atziluth does indeed transcend the layers below it by more than one infinity. They have their own transcendence relationship between them, but Atziluth is something essentially separate from all of that. It is completely isolated, inaccessible, not really dwarfing them in the same way that they dwarf each other. You could say that the four worlds are realms that transcend each other.
Tl:Assiah
A word said by the evil god Lahmu after appearing in Zojoji Temple. It is thought to refer to our world, as opposed to the Demon World. In the foundations of mysticism, or what is also called "the occult," it is one of the names of the Four Worlds. In all, there are: Atziluth, the world of God who created the world, in the ten sefirot which comprise the Tree of Life; Briah, a world ruled by archangels who serve God, where individuals (ie. "others") are born; Yetzirah, a world of souls and phenomena ruled by angels; and Assiah, a world of flesh and emotion, man and Demon. These layers may seem to be connected, but there is an absolute separation [隔絶 lit. isolation; separation; remoteness; seclusion; reclusion; inaccessibility], between Atziluth and the ones below. This separation is called the Abyss, considered to be the hidden, invisible Sephirah, Da'at.
(The Tree of Life, the Sephiroth, and other motifs can be seen in the world of Shin Megami Tensei V. If you are interested, consider finding books on these topics to learn more.)
[https://gyazo.com/b259db4b3f0132f72acc7d70e460168f]
The 4 worlds are realms that transcend each other
1. The human world (assiah)
2. The world of yetzirah (heavenly realm)
3. The world of yetzirah 2 (astral realm)
4. The world of briah (higher astral realm)
5. The world of atziluth (divine realm) 5.
And atziluth is the pinnacle of Kabbalah representing the keether aspect of the definition of transcend qualitatively, this corresponds to the four worlds basically (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Worlds).
[https://gyazo.com/fd716b060c0b88832b1e856bdcf4c2e9]
The realm of atziluth is the realm of no duality Buddhism follows advaita vedanta "nondualism" because atziluth is the realm of ultimate reality where there is no duality whatsoever.
Tl:
It is like flowers, like birds, like butterflies, like fire, like water, like light, like thunder. Oh!
It feels like everything that exists in this world.
It was like a butterfly, and like fire, and like water, and like light, and like thunder. It burned, it flowed, it danced, it flew.
And then it wailed. The sound, which was not a sound, spread out as a kind of vibration of space and time.
Released from its cage, it was still dazed and confused by its new surroundings, writhing against something that felt like a thorn in its flesh. Dressed in something painful and intense, something new and completely unfamiliar, it floated back to the higher dimensional space where it originally resided.
The light of an enlightened person is very high and luminous, and his divine form is more precious than anything else.
Nothing can reach that light
The sun, the moon, the luminous jewel
Like blobs of ink, they disappear before him.
Welcome, Mithra ....
'... Mithra?'
Slowly, they awoke from their slumber. For the first time, they realized the tightness of their bodies, stretching and expanding their chests for a breath of fresh air, as if they were babies waking up from a comfortable sleep. Then they spread their arms and legs and swayed in place.
It was a place where there was no heavy weight.
[https://gyazo.com/2614b9d1451f99005af5430d54334977]
Conclusions: atzililuth is a realm that has lacked off and is qualitatively superior to its lower realms, in other words the realm of atziluth is the realm of Transcend reality and duality in the assiah world and lack off because there is no duality in the realm of god following advaita vedanta, and god basically cannot be described, defined, perfect, absolute being. In this way atzililuth is a realm that transcends all duality or transduality as well as the existence of nondualism.
- Transduality type 2 for atziluth
Logical states:
A. Good (yin)
B Evil (yang)
C. Human
D. Atziluth
E. Plurality for the realm/character above(Qualitative Superiority to) atziluth.
Sorry For bad Thread, i’m still learning about making Thread
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. How can a Qualitative superiority realm cannot be trancend the duality from the realm below 
. Please read it carefully and use ur crit think, i hope u can give and advice and not just saying that the argument are funny without even telling the wrong part of it
