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2 Time masters meet each other | The Doctor (Doctor Who) vs Lee (Punishing: Gray Raven) 2-0-0

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Both are Low 1-C
Speed is equalized
SBA

Lee with The Gate key
The Doctor with The Time Vortex key

If you wanna take it to a higher authority. There isn’t one. It stops with ME : 2

Cease your existence at the end of time! :

A higher authority actually steps in :
 
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the doctor starts talking and its wraps

the doctor also has passive luck bs as well.


oh wait its low 1-c nvm. Its seems the Doctor cant even interact with him cuz of ND 2
 
Hmm...well Lee is linked to the Hetero Tower. So Doctor Who would need to destroy it to permanently kill him, also yes the ND2 is there
 
So the Doctor's passive luck is provided by a 1-B 11 or 12-D being iirc, how Lee can even attack the Doctor
I vote this an incon
 
So the Doctor's passive luck is provided by a 1-B 11 or 12-D being iirc, how Lee can even attack the Doctor
I vote this an incon
Hmm...idk, I don't think the passive luck here will help against ND2. It's not like passive luck is NEP 2 or Acaus type 5 or smth, there are ways to circumvent it but if it is actually coming from a 1-B source yeah...most likely an incon
 
Hmm...idk, I don't think the passive luck here will help against ND2. It's not like passive luck is NEP 2 or Acaus type 5 or smth, there are ways to circumvent it but if it is actually coming from a 1-B source yeah...most likely an incon
Ah, an incon again
 
Hmm...idk, I don't think the passive luck here will help against ND2. It's not like passive luck is NEP 2 or Acaus type 5 or smth, there are ways to circumvent it but if it is actually coming from a 1-B source yeah...most likely an incon
The Doctor will most likely to social influence first. His SI is quite very OP, he will yap about some shit meaning of protecting humanity or kind like that to convince Lee that he is not a threat and want Lee to join his side to protect Earth

Even if he still have to fight Lee, he will just continue to use SI, he once successfully convinced an extremely aggressive construct-like enemy to not fight and killed itself instead. Since both can't really kill each other, with The Doctor intelligence and SI, he can win via yapping alone without even lifting a finger
 
The Doctor will most likely to social influence first. His SI is quite very OP, he will yap about some shit meaning of protecting humanity or kind like that to convince Lee that he is not a threat and want Lee to join his side to protect Earth

Even if he still have to fight Lee, he will just continue to use SI, he once successfully convinced an extremely aggressive construct-like enemy to not fight and killed itself instead. Since both can't really kill each other, with The Doctor intelligence and SI, he can win via yapping alone without even lifting a finger
Wouldn't this just get countered by CM1 tho? Entertain me for a bit, the Doctor uses SI to lower Lee's guard. He either tricks Lee and gets him to kill himself or kills Lee through some underhanded ploy, since they are both the same tier and the very possibility of this happening now exists Lee could just do what he did in ch 21, where he uses the CM in his M.I.N.D space to block out his own weaknesses and constantly kill the Lee's who end up getting tricked by the Doctor so that he ends up resisting him.

Is this a feasible way to resist him? Or is it not enough? Cuz I don't know anything abt Doctor Who, even if it ain't enough though his acaus type 3 makes this an incon regardless it seems
 
Wouldn't this just get countered by CM1 tho? Entertain me for a bit, the Doctor uses SI to lower Lee's guard. He either tricks Lee and gets him to kill himself or kills Lee through some underhanded ploy
Doctor will NOT kill Lee since Lee was never an aggressive opponent. The Doctor will actually find Lee an calm person and do not has actual killing intend, the Doctor in this case will convince Lee to give up and join his side instead of fighting

Edit: The Doctor is the definition of all barks no bite, he's extremely passive and won't attack if not very necessary. He always give his enemy a chance to give up first and make a deal with them later
 
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Doctor will NOT kill Lee since Lee was never an aggressive opponent. The Doctor will actually find Lee an calm person and do not has actual killing intend, the Doctor in this case will convince Lee to give up and join his side instead of fighting

Edit: The Doctor is the definition of all barks no bite, he's extremely passive and won't attack if not very necessary. He always give his enemy a chance to give up first and make a deal with them later
Interesting...in character Lee also wouldn't fight the Doctor but instead probably try to have them help solve how to ascend the Tower & stop the PV lol
 
I mean...it's still a death battle no? In this case I'd still vote incon, if we're simply referring to who could win over the other though then yeah...I'd probably vote the Doctor as well
 
I mean...it's still a death battle no? In this case I'd still vote incon, if we're simply referring to who could win over the other though then yeah...I'd probably vote the Doctor as well
SBA states :"This doesn't prevent a character being made to give up, because the other character manipulates them via things like, for example, mind control, fear inducement, psychological tricks or superhuman charisma." And "incapacitating the opponent by putting him in a state in which he can not harm the other fighter(s) for over a day, are to be assumed as victory conditions."

Since The Doctor can convince Lee to give up, they will just be friend and not fight of course for over a day, thereby resulting in the victory of the Doctor. Humanity will destroy the Punishing Virus with the assistance of The Doctor.
 
please dont use Doctor for match up, aside that the fact his low 1-C key is wrong (N-Space/time Vortesare already accepted as 1-B from the previous two revision, and we are working into a bigger update) as well he lack a lot of abilities (Yes, time Vortex will be able to interact with Nonduality), passives (passive effects of the time vortex, not the doctor himself) and Resistences
 
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