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Kawaki is in his Two Blue Vortex version(1.69 Zettatons)

Tristan Liones has access to Demon marks(460 Exatons) and Enchantments

Speed is equalized

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Kawaki:


Tristan:
 
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Kawaki’s gonna get a tier change soon, making this a stomp
 
Brother if u dont equal the speed its a stomp and Tristan should start at his dm2 which is 182exatons 1.82zettatons with 10xap
 
I am so confused at this point, I was also told that we are gonna scale Tristan back to AM Meliodas
 
What is Kawaki’s starting moves tho?
he is the brawler type, he uses his physical renforcement abilities a lot and sometimes throw in energy blasts.

Can shrink too even tho idk if that’s in character for him to do so.

But it seems like he has absolutely nothing against Anihilation
 
He can choose to shrink or absorb it so he's good
Anihilation can be used as Danmaku and erase matter it can be used on large ranges basically demons inferior to Tristan can make KM large darkness construct turning microscopic won’t really help and absorption will be countered by a danmaku

Anyway since Kawaki gets an upgrade it’ll be replaced by Lancelot.

Lance might copy Isshiki and just stomp Kawaki 😭
 
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Anihilation can be used as Danmaku and erase matter it can be used on large ranges basically demons inferior to Tristan can make KM large darkness construct turning microscopic won’t really help and absorption will be countered by a danmaku

Anyway since Kawaki gets an upgrade it’ll be replaced by Lancelot.

Lance might copy Isshiki and just stomp Kawaki 😭
The first show of Kokugan and it was just shrinking everything in sight even random items at the same time. Damaku won't help. Not to mention he can't even sense kawaki talkless of healing him. Karma doesn't have limit for absorbing. It can absorb as much as possible. Also claiming Tristan will make km of darkness is literally never in character for him. He's never done that not to mention anhillation is darkness and goddess magic cancelling each other. You'd also be implying he can make km long goddess attacks too to match the darkness which again he has never done. Also where did lesser demons make darkness kms long?
 
His fallen star is tens of meters, his dark snow is less and I'm supposed to believe somehow the combination of both would be kms? Either SDS profiles are so shit y'all should stop making matches and fix your profiles or you're just claiming something that's not true.
 
His fallen star is tens of meters, his dark snow is less and I'm supposed to believe somehow the combination of both would be kms? Either SDS profiles are so shit y'all should stop making matches and fix your profiles or you're just claiming something that's not true.
Agree with this profiles are suck
 
The first show of Kokugan and it was just shrinking everything in sight even random items at the same time.
Ok ? Ik Isshiki uses this a lot but does kawaki in character ? It’s a genuine question.
Damaku won't help.
It will Annihilation causes big explosions a danmaku of these explosions will likely be more effective to hit a microscopic individual.
Not to mention he can't even sense kawaki talkless of healing him.
What does that even mean
Karma doesn't have limit for absorbing. It can absorb as much as possible.
It slows down the user + He can’t absorb darkness due to it being a part of Tristan’s physiology.

Also claiming Tristan will make km of darkness is literally never in character for him.
Tristan discovered this technique just before a timeskip where blud forgot basically everything…

He's never done that not to mention anhillation is darkness and goddess magic cancelling each other. You'd also be implying he can make km long goddess attacks too to match the darkness which again he has never done.
Once again


Also where did lesser demons make darkness kms long?
Meliodas destroying Danafor, destroying Edimbourg too

We know they can generate darkness constructs km around.

Therefore Annihilation would absolutely be able to work on such ranges and we don’t Even have to prove that since the mechanism is as simple as « light + darkness = boom »

This isn’t even that important since it’s now Lancelot vs Kawaki.

His fallen star is tens of meters, his dark snow is less and I'm supposed to believe somehow the combination of both would be kms?
Both his light and darkness manips scale to High ranking goddesses/demons.

Either SDS profiles are so shit y'all should stop making matches and fix your profiles or you're just claiming something that's not true.
4kota profiles are pretty incomplete but if majin wants to do a vs he can do whatever he wants and you don’t really have anything to say.

If you are unhappy just don’t type or read this thread.
 
Ok ? Ik Isshiki uses this a lot but does kawaki in character ? It’s a genuine question.

It will Annihilation causes big explosions a danmaku of these explosions will likely be more effective to hit a microscopic individual.

What does that even mean

It slows down the user + He can’t absorb darkness due to it being a part of Tristan’s physiology.



Tristan discovered this technique just before a timeskip where blud forgot basically everything…


Once again




Meliodas destroying Danafor, destroying Edimbourg too

We know they can generate darkness constructs km around.

Therefore Annihilation would absolutely be able to work on such ranges and we don’t Even have to prove that since the mechanism is as simple as « light + darkness = boom »

This isn’t even that important since it’s now Lancelot vs Kawaki.


Both his light and darkness manips scale to High ranking goddesses/demons.


4kota profiles are pretty incomplete but if majin wants to do a vs he can do whatever he wants and you don’t really have anything to say.

If you are unhappy just don’t type or read this thread.
1. Yes kawaki straight up started spamming it the moment he got the eye like it took a while of spamming it before he decided to even go hand to hand.
2. Who said kawaki would go microscopic? He would just stand and shrink and absorb everything.

3. Otsusuki have resistance to ESP on Naruto level. I don't need to start listing Naruto ridiculous ESP. Boruto has layered esp for being able to sense kawaki
4. The only person it has ever slowed down is jigen and dude is just a bad vessel, momo never showed that problem , and the slow down was still enough for jigen to teleport away from sasuke attack. That's insignificant.

I'm speed running the next few points coz you keep repeating the same thing.
On Tristan profile his Maximum range is tens of meters(which by the way is half of what makes his anhillation and since both must cancel each other out he has to make equal amounts of both). On both goddess and demon physiology there is no mention of range of kms. So your claim of spamming Km wide is just non existent.
Either fix your profiles and get that range or don't just talk about it. Kawaki has layered madness manipulation and mind manipulation, basic shinobi do but I don't bring it up coz it's simply not been added.

Every time I'm in a 7DS match up there is so much talk about stuff not on profiles and Frankly it's becoming annoying. Just in the WB and escanor match up his wincon relied on a multiplier for heat that you and the supporters failed to add or even make a CRT for yet it was part of your main arguments. It's getting silly at this point. Stop saying things not on profiles.

Anyway just to make sure I cover everything Naruto attacks range reach Kms and still his justu can help shrunk and absorbed fine. There is no range limit like you think.
I find it crazy how you're using meliodas the strongest demon as "lesser demons" lmao.
 
1. Yes kawaki straight up started spamming it the moment he got the eye like it took a while of spamming it before he decided to even go hand to hand.
Ok
2. Who said kawaki would go microscopic? He would just stand and shrink and absorb everything.
Can’t absorb darkness
3. Otsusuki have resistance to ESP on Naruto level. I don't need to start listing Naruto ridiculous ESP. Boruto has layered esp for being able to sense kawaki
Ok
4. The only person it has ever slowed down is jigen and dude is just a bad vessel, momo never showed that problem , and the slow down was still enough for jigen to teleport away from sasuke attack. That's insignificant.
Ok
I'm speed running the next few points coz you keep repeating the same thing.
On Tristan profile his Maximum range is tens of meters(which by the way is half of what makes his anhillation and since both must cancel each other out he has to make equal amounts of both).
That’s false, Light has a natural advantage over darkness you don’t need to bring the same amount.

On both goddess and demon physiology there is no mention of range of kms.
Tristan scales to DM2 Meliodas his negative energy is far stronger than Unsealed Meliodas that has tens of km of range.

Basically he currently scales to archangels that can create light structure so big that they can be seen hundreds of miles away (Stigma’s lightswords)
So your claim of spamming Km wide is just non existent.
Either fix your profiles and get that range or don't just talk about it. Kawaki has layered madness manipulation and mind manipulation, basic shinobi do but I don't bring it up coz it's simply not been added.
His high ranking demons and goddess physiologies pages are in profile he therefore scale to whatever other demons/goddesses can do

Every time I'm in a 7DS match up there is so much talk about stuff not on profiles and Frankly it's becoming annoying. Just in the WB and escanor match up his wincon relied on a multiplier for heat that you and the supporters failed to add or even make a CRT for yet it was part of your main arguments. It's getting silly at this point. Stop saying things not on profiles.
Just tell me you didn’t even read lol.
No Value is stated on the profile WB up scales above magma that can burn Luffy.
Wb haki > Magma > Wb no haki > lightning.
That’s litteraly what’s stated in their profiles/CRT. (Btw their lightning scaling is shit and no one answered when I showed what was wrong with it)

As I stated in the WB/Escanor vs I always made 2 ways to go either with the multiplier or else without it and even without WB would be relative to darkness plate Izraf.

I showed how FC also amp size heat power etc… and how anyway lightning heat is dependent on power


Anyway just to make sure I cover everything Naruto attacks range reach Kms and still his justu can help shrunk and absorbed fine. There is no range limit like you think.
He still can’t shrink people outside of him darkness is part of the demons body
I find it crazy how you're using meliodas the strongest demon as "lesser demons" lmao.
And that’s another strawman…
Never considered him a lesser demon, he has high ranking demon physiology but has worse negative energy than Tristan that simply is way stronger than the key he was in when he destroyed danafor/Edimbourg.

Anyway Kawaki stomps due to the AP gap he would one shot with the upgrade let’s put up someone else.

Frankly you are right the NNT/4kota profiles are incomplete Majinere just wanted to make a fun fight.

Also I would appreciate that you just stop bringing up past vs threads especially when you didn’t really read it…

Another member did the same in the WB/Escanor thread just to bring up an argument he didn’t understood from a past thread lol.
 
Ok

Can’t absorb darkness

Ok

Ok

That’s false, Light has a natural advantage over darkness you don’t need to bring the same amount.


Tristan scales to DM2 Meliodas his negative energy is far stronger than Unsealed Meliodas that has tens of km of range.

Basically he currently scales to archangels that can create light structure so big that they can be seen hundreds of miles away (Stigma’s lightswords)

His high ranking demons and goddess physiologies pages are in profile he therefore scale to whatever other demons/goddesses can do


Just tell me you didn’t even read lol.
No Value is stated on the profile WB up scales above magma that can burn Luffy.
Wb haki > Magma > Wb no haki > lightning.
That’s litteraly what’s stated in their profiles/CRT. (Btw their lightning scaling is shit and no one answered when I showed what was wrong with it)

As I stated in the WB/Escanor vs I always made 2 ways to go either with the multiplier or else without it and even without WB would be relative to darkness plate Izraf.

I showed how FC also amp size heat power etc… and how anyway lightning heat is dependent on power



He still can’t shrink people outside of him darkness is part of the demons body

And that’s another strawman…
Never considered him a lesser demon, he has high ranking demon physiology but has worse negative energy than Tristan that simply is way stronger than the key he was in when he destroyed danafor/Edimbourg.

Anyway Kawaki stomps due to the AP gap he would one shot with the upgrade let’s put up someone else.

Frankly you are right the NNT/4kota profiles are incomplete Majinere just wanted to make a fun fight.

Also I would appreciate that you just stop bringing up past vs threads especially when you didn’t really read it…

Another member did the same in the WB/Escanor thread just to bring up an argument he didn’t understood from a past thread lol.
1. I see no reason why karma can't absorb darkness.
2. He has both high ranking physiology as both a demon and goddess. The advantage of light over darkness is minor at that stage. It's not going to cover tens of meters to kilometres
3. Stronger≠ more range. And that's not just dm2 Mel, that's rage Mel also Mel wasn't sealed then
4. That's a technique called arc. You're not gonna equate an omega arc to all techniques, that's like me saying Naruto rasenshuriken is Kms wide so all his attacks are ??? It's why you specify a range based on an attack. The specific goddess attack he uses is tens of meters. Like you don't even get how ridiculous what you're arguing is. You're arguing anhillation can go Kms when it has never been shown to do so?? If you can't prove it then don't use it.
5. No I'm talking about the 2x multiplier for the heat value you kept bringing up and you need to get it accepted coz FC increasing heat doesn't give a multiplier.
6. Yeah sure when the darkness is part of his body but once that darkness leaves his body and turns into the attack like you said it either gets shrinked or absorbed.

If you were at my end you'd see how annoying it . Heck just mere reading some of the profiles is a headache.
 
1. I see no reason why karma can't absorb darkness.
It’s like absorbing a demon’s body
2. He has both high ranking physiology as both a demon and goddess. The advantage of light over darkness is minor at that stage. It's not going to cover tens of meters to kilometres
It’s not, derrieri got damaged by Nerobasta a goddess she could one shot.


3. Stronger≠ more range
Stronger = stronger negative energy = more range, more powerful

Same goes for light he can replicate what HRG/D can do
. And that's not just dm2 Mel, that's rage Mel also Mel wasn't sealed then
DM2 Corand arc Meliodas is far superior to Danafor Meliodas
4. That's a technique called arc. You're not gonna equate an omega arc to all techniques, that's like me saying Naruto rasenshuriken is Kms wide so all his attacks are ??? It's why you specify a range based on an attack. The specific goddess attack he uses is tens of meters. Like you don't even get how ridiculous what you're arguing is. You're arguing anhillation can go Kms when it has never been shown to do so?? If you can't prove it then don't use it.
It’s not even Ark it’s just a light sword…

Annihilation is light and darkness negating each others, as long as he can produce light and darkness it scales to it’s range
5. No I'm talking about the 2x multiplier for the heat value you kept bringing up and you need to get it accepted coz FC increasing heat doesn't give a multiplier.
And as i explained above
I showed how FC also amp size heat power etc… and how anyway lightning heat is dependent on power
And

As I stated in the WB/Escanor vs I always made 2 ways to go either with the multiplier or else without it and even without WB would be relative to darkness plate Izraf.
With the multiplier WB would scale below Gilthunder Without he would scale to Izraf’s black plate
6. Yeah sure when the darkness is part of his body but once that darkness leaves his body and turns into the attack like you said it either gets shrinked or absorbed.
The nature of darkness doesn’t change it’s still physiology related
If you were at my end you'd see how annoying it . Heck just mere reading some of the profiles is a headache.
Yeah sorry dude we’ll soon make a giant CRT
 
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